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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnosh View Post
    What was the change? RL has kept me out of the loop on the recent PTR goings-on and I haven't the energy to muster a Google search :/
    Death's Due percentage amplifier nerfed, now stacks on use of Heart Strike/Obliterate/Scourge Strike to enemies within it, and causes Obliterate to cleave 1 additional target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaira View Post
    Death's Due percentage amplifier nerfed, now stacks on use of Heart Strike/Obliterate/Scourge Strike to enemies within it, and causes Obliterate to cleave 1 additional target.
    Thanks. So it's no longer the "miles-ahead-of-everything-else" choice.
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  3. #483
    OOOOOOOOOH

    Frost

    Killing Machine Your auto attack critical strikes have a chance to make your next Obliterate deal Frost damage and critically strike. Death Knight - Frost Spec. Death Knight - Frost Spec.

    This could be interesting.
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  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    OOOOOOOOOH

    Frost

    Killing Machine Your auto attack critical strikes have a chance to make your next Obliterate deal Frost damage and critically strike. Death Knight - Frost Spec. Death Knight - Frost Spec.

    This could be interesting.
    OOOOOOH!

    Goodbye Obliterate scaling issues?

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8GODZILLAGOD View Post
    OOOOOOH!

    Goodbye Obliterate scaling issues?
    Yes and makes mastery super powerful for 2H.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Yes and makes mastery super powerful for 2H.
    Sounds like OG Masterfrost is back.
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  7. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by Skendarn View Post
    To bad that the spec doesnt seem so nice. The biggest drawback though is that i cant find any good looking 2h-swords that fits my frost theme.
    Use an axe! Specifically Shadowmourne! ^_^

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Skendarn View Post
    To bad that the spec doesnt seem so nice. The biggest drawback though is that i cant find any good looking 2h-swords that fits my frost theme.
    I find the new swords we get from Bolvar are extremely nice. Combine them with the Antorus set (or the PvP equivalent) and it fits perfectly.

    I have been using Shadowmourne for a while and I love the weapon, but the cloud you carry everywhere is not really up to modern standards and looks terrible. Sadly you can't remove that effect, else it would be my weapon of choice.

  9. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Use an axe! Specifically Shadowmourne! ^_^
    Nothing beats Greatsword of the Ebon Blade for me. A better discount Frostmourne than Shadowmourne in my opinion.
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  10. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    OOOOOOOOOH

    Frost

    Killing Machine Your auto attack critical strikes have a chance to make your next Obliterate deal Frost damage and critically strike. Death Knight - Frost Spec. Death Knight - Frost Spec.

    This could be interesting.
    WAIT
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    damn, i was hesitating to go for a 2hand weapon, but obliterate doing full frost damage ? damn !

  11. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by kaintk View Post
    WAIT
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    MINUTE !

    damn, i was hesitating to go for a 2hand weapon, but obliterate doing full frost damage ? damn !
    Don't be in a rush, apparently they specifically nerfed 2H Frost on Beta yesterday (fewer KM procs for 2H, Obliterate dmg and POF reduced duration and increased CD).

  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Fkiolaris View Post
    Don't be in a rush, apparently they specifically nerfed 2H Frost on Beta yesterday (fewer KM procs for 2H, Obliterate dmg and POF reduced duration and increased CD).
    hehe, its like before legion, blizzard dont know how to balance dual and twohand, its the main reason why they removed two hand style before and frost was less crappy after this

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    i knew it was going to happen.
    now frost is back to being a mess.
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  14. #494
    Where the nerfs a pve thing? Was 2h obliterate build far above any DW builds for pve, both single target and aoe? If that is the case then I can see a reason for the nerfs. You can't or you shouldn't have 1 style of frost being better in all situations. Any beta dks able to shed some light, was 2h frost to far ahead of DW?

  15. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Bisque View Post
    Where the nerfs a pve thing? Was 2h obliterate build far above any DW builds for pve, both single target and aoe? If that is the case then I can see a reason for the nerfs. You can't or you shouldn't have 1 style of frost being better in all situations. Any beta dks able to shed some light, was 2h frost to far ahead of DW?
    2hand frost is mainly for arenas, as it allows to burst harder, but you have less rp to spam ds.

    But, i also remember 2hand frost pve specs back in MoP in SoO. Yes, you bet its for patchwerk bosses.

    The nerf is hilarious, because blizz always nerfs dks hard, before any other dds in each expansion.

    These nerfs are also with conduits, convenants and higher ranks of obliterate in mind, but you won't have access to that during prepatch.

  16. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannica View Post
    2hand frost is mainly for arenas, as it allows to burst harder, but you have less rp to spam ds.

    But, i also remember 2hand frost pve specs back in MoP in SoO. Yes, you bet its for patchwerk bosses.

    The nerf is hilarious, because blizz always nerfs dks hard, before any other dds in each expansion.

    These nerfs are also with conduits, convenants and higher ranks of obliterate in mind, but you won't have access to that during prepatch.
    2h still feels fine even after the nerfs.
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  17. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    2h still feels fine even after the nerfs.
    Define fine please, because all I am reading is that 2H frost is once again go BOS for med-low dps or go home, both in terms of numbers and in terms of gameplay(apparently it's too slow now). I appreciate that ppl can be overly dramatic, but since you are going against the general sentiment, in what way is 2H still fine? Numbers or gameplay? Honest question btw.

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    I'm super excited for 2h frost to be back. It was some of the most fun I've had playing PvE.
    I don't even care if they've nerfed it into the group. Hell, they could make it worse than Enhancement ever was, and I'd still play it.

  19. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Fkiolaris View Post
    Define fine please, because all I am reading is that 2H frost is once again go BOS for med-low dps or go home, both in terms of numbers and in terms of gameplay(apparently it's too slow now). I appreciate that ppl can be overly dramatic, but since you are going against the general sentiment, in what way is 2H still fine? Numbers or gameplay? Honest question btw.
    For soloing stuff it feels great and bursty I am sure it will be tuned more down the road. I think the one thing they need to do is tune a few of the runeforge effects to be more powerful with a 2hander and it would help offset the lack of razorice as 2handed, hell if they made razorice deal like 20% weapon damage as frost with each hit and let it stack faster but cap at 20% frost damage increase that would probably trump fallen crusader, and maybe make fallen crusader 20% strength with a 2hander. The others could also be modified a bit too. The fact that there aren't two-handed versions of the runeforges is a glaring issue.
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