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Fat shaming is absolutely wrong. That said, any Trump supporters pearl clutching about it can fuck right off.
Their Lord God is guilty as hell of fat shaming and much more.
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2020-10-23, 01:37 PM #20141Scarab Lord
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2020-10-23, 01:59 PM #20142Void Lord
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USA Today has one, they're not alone of course.
Originally Posted by Felya
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I disagree with "absolutely". Trump personally opened the door to fat-shaming Trump when Originally Posted by Valkyrst
1) He claimed to be the healthiest person to ever run, and
2) Publicly said one of his political opponents was too ugly to vote for.
Saying it is wrong to fat-shame Trump, as some of his supporters are doing, is hypocrisy. Or, they can denounce Trump for both of those two offences, but that still won't stop me from fat-shaming Trump, because Trump still did it and still hasn't apologized.
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2020-10-23, 02:08 PM #20143Banned
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I don't know how likely it is but this is the only path of Victory I can see for Biden.
If you want to compile your own map and show it here is the link to where you can do that.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...p/?cid=abcnews
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2020-10-23, 02:12 PM #20144Scarab Lord
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You misunderstand me, Sonnyjim. Fat shaming in literally any other circumstance is absolutely wrong. But not with him. Originally Posted by Breccia
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2020-10-23, 02:13 PM #20145The Undying
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Pretty sure biden will get over 300 electoral votes when all is said and done.
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2020-10-23, 02:15 PM #20146Scarab Lord
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As long as he gets over 270 and is President, I couldn't care less. It's too tight to say as of now. Polling is definitely tightening, so let's see. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
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2020-10-23, 02:17 PM #20147The Unstoppable Force
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Why are you giving Arizona to Trump...? Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
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2020-10-23, 02:19 PM #20148I am Murloc!
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Nah... I think he takes NC. Dems won NC state races by 6 points in 2018 and if anything Trump has gotten more abhorrent since then. Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
I don't know how likely it is but this is the only path of Victory I can see for Biden.
If you want to compile your own map and show it here is the link to where you can do that.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...p/?cid=abcnews
I think there's also a chance the LV/RV split is way off and we see a polling error in Biden's direction and he wins 350+ EVs
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2020-10-23, 02:20 PM #20149Void Lord
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Oh I understood you just fine, I only disagreed with the word "absolutely" to allow the exception you were talking about. Originally Posted by Valkyrst
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2020-10-23, 02:23 PM #20150Void Lord
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Don’t let the bubble fool you... Originally Posted by Shadowferal
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
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2020-10-23, 02:26 PM #20151The Lightbringer
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So, about the above map. I think that is Biden’s absolute worst case scenario at this point. There are many states on that list that are going to fall to D this year.
Also, wanted to say this because in discussing it with a coworker this morning.
If Trump hadn’t politicized a virus and did even a halfway better job than he has done, we would be looking at 55%+ popular vote Trump win. Covid could’ve been Trumps 9/11 and now we’re having the equivalent of a 9/11 every 2-4 days.
The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.
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2020-10-23, 02:33 PM #20152Void Lord
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
*deep breath*
MUAHAHAHAHA
"The onlY' hoo boy...that's funny.
Yeah if you mouseover the dots in question, they bring up maps of other results. The only way you can call what you have "the only" is because you're not looking.
Basically what you're doing isn't "the only" path, because you've literally given Trump any state that Biden's not ahead by three. You're saying he'll call a coin flip correctly a dozen times. Biden's leading in Florida. Biden's leading in Georgia. Biden's leading in North Carolina. Biden's leading in Iowa. You handwaved the possibilities that he wins any of these states in any combination.
I can see why you'd call that your most likely result, but why would you say "the only"? That's just...wrong.
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2020-10-23, 02:33 PM #20153Old God
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A reason to hope for a bigger EC win, is that there is some correlation in flipping more Senate seats.
So if you want to maximize the chances that Biden will have a friendly senate to work with, you'll want a large EC margin.
Also, it creates more of a "mandate" for Dems to go bigger on progressive policy.
- So people that actually want M4A, should be praying for a very large EC victory.
- Whereas people cheerleading for a tight EC and M4A ... feels like they're more interested in "sticking it to the Dems".
Anyways, Biden's answer on the public option was great.
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2020-10-23, 02:38 PM #20154Void Lord
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Bolded for emphasis. Originally Posted by fwc577
Biden needs to continue his momentum. Trump's October Surprise clearly put its hand down its pants in front of an underaged girl, but that's no reason for Biden to slow down or show mercy. Even today, Biden is getting more endorsements from groups that normally go Republican. And while Biden is doing some cleanup work about how he's not ending fossil fuels tomorrow, because apparently some people are idiots and need that spelled out for them, Trump is preparing to throw a packed crowded party in the White House, the US Embassy in Turkey is warning about terrorist attacks against Americans, his campaign is broke and his friends are going to jail.
You don't stop setting the troll on fire until he stops rengenerating completely.
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2020-10-23, 02:41 PM #20155Banned
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Based on their overall history I don’t see it happening. Originally Posted by Belize
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Exactly getting over confident is stupid. Originally Posted by Felya
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2020-10-23, 02:42 PM #20156Old God
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That's a conventional wisdom answer that is silly. Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
You realize the trends of the past 20 years are way more important than data or "history" of the 80 years preceding that?
Arizona has changed dramatically over the past 12 years. See Virginia.
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2020-10-23, 02:43 PM #20157Banned
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Originally Posted by Breccia
HAHAHAHAHAHA
*deep breath*
MUAHAHAHAHA
"The onlY' hoo boy...that's funny.
Yeah if you mouseover the dots in question, they bring up maps of other results. The only way you can call what you have "the only" is because you're not looking.
Basically what you're doing isn't "the only" path, because you've literally given Trump any state that Biden's not ahead by three. You're saying he'll call a coin flip correctly a dozen times. Biden's leading in Florida. Biden's leading in Georgia. Biden's leading in North Carolina. Biden's leading in Iowa. You handwaved the possibilities that he wins any of these states in any combination.
I can see why you'd call that your most likely result, but why would you say "the only"? That's just...wrong.
I’m not saying who’s going to win. I’m saying this is the only path I see.
Honestly I’m not sure he can get PA from everything I’ve been reading.
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2020-10-23, 02:45 PM #20158Immortal
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Biden's ahead by 7 points on average in Penn. Please stoop with the doomer shit dude, you're not helping Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker
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2020-10-23, 02:45 PM #20159Banned
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Originally Posted by Milchshake
I don’t think so Arizona is a Red State. They govern from the red.
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2020-10-23, 02:46 PM #20160Scarab Lord
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It's the exact same map I simulated. Except for me that's the LEAST Biden needs. It's not his only path. And that's the key thing.
Trump has to get a specific set of states in play to win. If he doesn't, he's done. Biden can actually lose AZ, FL, GA & NC whilst still winning.
Pennsylvania is the tipping point. Whomever wins Pennsylvania takes home the big prize. This in itself is the inherent flaw with the electoral college.
