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    Oh no, Joe! It seems even CNN is calling out Hidin' Biden's bullshit:

    Facts First: It's false that Biden never said he opposed fracking. In two Democratic primary debates, Biden made confusing remarks over fracking that his campaign had to clarify. In 2019, Biden said "we would make sure it's eliminated" when asked about the future of coal and fracking; in 2020 he said he opposed "new fracking." Biden's written plan, conversely, never included a full ban on fracking or even on new fracking. Rather, it proposes "banning new oil and gas permitting on public lands and waters" -- not ending all new fracking anywhere or ending all existing fracking on public lands and waters.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/polit...eck/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    47 years...racist
    That's a good point. It was about 47 years ago that Trump told his businesses not to take black customers. Considering he's still taking actions directly against African, Latino, and Muslim Americans, there really is no reason to believe he'd change.

    I hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    ...and?

    Do you not understand that a Senator, a Vice President, and a President have different roles, different responsibilities, and different powers?
    Do you not understand that it takes time for a president to fix the fuckups of someone who spent 47 years in politics?
    I swear, either the reading comprehension of yours makes me facepalm or the much worse lack of general knowledge that Biden spent over 47 years in politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    Oh no, Joe! It seems even CNN is calling out Hidin' Biden's bullshit:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/polit...eck/index.html
    He literally said he is doing away with Oil yesterday, that includes fracking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    Oh no, Joe! It seems even CNN is calling out Hidin' Biden's bullshit:

    Facts First: It's false that Biden never said he opposed fracking. In two Democratic primary debates, Biden made confusing remarks over fracking that his campaign had to clarify. In 2019, Biden said "we would make sure it's eliminated" when asked about the future of coal and fracking; in 2020 he said he opposed "new fracking." Biden's written plan, conversely, never included a full ban on fracking or even on new fracking. Rather, it proposes "banning new oil and gas permitting on public lands and waters" -- not ending all new fracking anywhere or ending all existing fracking on public lands and waters.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/polit...eck/index.html
    I mean, they should be fact checking both candidates. I'm not sure why you think this is some kinda "gotcha".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Do you not understand that it takes time for a president to fix the fuckups of someone who spent 47 years in politics?
    Shit, was Joe Biden controlling the government for 47 years? Is that how this works? Because that's what you sure make it sound like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Do you not understand that it takes time for a president to fix the fuckups of someone who spent 47 years in politics?
    I swear, either the reading comprehension of yours makes me facepalm or the much worse lack of general knowledge that Biden spent over 47 years in politics.
    What do you think a senator does? How many years do we need to fix shit business men elites and billionaires like Trump, helping China?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    Oh no, Joe! It seems even CNN is calling out Hidin' Biden's bullshit:
    Yeah, he should have used better language, like when he apologized for the crime bill.

    Don't say "always" or "never" unless you can back that shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post

    Shit, was Joe Biden controlling the government for 47 years? Is that how this works? Because that's what you sure make it sound like.
    No I don't. That's just you getting confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    No I don't. That's just you getting confused.
    It is confusing, why are you and president of US, blaming a senator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57States View Post
    Oh no, Joe! It seems even CNN is calling out Hidin' Biden's bullshit:

    Facts First: It's false that Biden never said he opposed fracking. In two Democratic primary debates, Biden made confusing remarks over fracking that his campaign had to clarify. In 2019, Biden said "we would make sure it's eliminated" when asked about the future of coal and fracking; in 2020 he said he opposed "new fracking." Biden's written plan, conversely, never included a full ban on fracking or even on new fracking. Rather, it proposes "banning new oil and gas permitting on public lands and waters" -- not ending all new fracking anywhere or ending all existing fracking on public lands and waters.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/polit...eck/index.html
    They've been quite critical of Biden on the economy and openly said he should have handled the fracking question better. Like was said, how is fact checking something a "gotcha"?

    But omg dude, you dun got em gud with that insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    No I don't. That's just you getting confused.
    Shouldnt you be worrying that the last state polls had Dotardito up by 6 points...

    In fucking Montana?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    They've been quite critical of Biden on the economy and openly said he should have handled the fracking question better. Like was said, how is fact checking something a "gotcha"?

    But omg dude, you dun got em gud with that insight.
    In the eyes of Trump supporters, any mistake the opponent makes is the end of the world and all the mistakes that Trump has made...just never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean, they should be fact checking both candidates. I'm not sure why you think this is some kinda "gotcha".
    They did

    Fact check: Toned-down Trump continues his onslaught of falsehoods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    No I don't. That's just you getting confused.
    Then can you be more specific? What could he have done in those 47 years, and how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Then can you be more specific? What could he have done in those 47 years, and how?
    Not helping to pass the racist crime bill for once?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Not helping to pass the racist crime bill for once?
    One that got 95 "yay" votes is his fault alone? I mean, what else? Surely you can come up with more than just one example in nearly 5 decades, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    One that got 95 "yay" votes is his fault alone? I mean, what else? Surely you can come up with more than just one example in nearly 5 decades, no?
    Regarding the swine flu
    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/sta...57554877599746
    https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/sta...00994791419905

    Bidens China efforts lead to millions of american job losses.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...for-president/


    Biden sided with credit card companies and authored a law that made it harder for consumers to declare bankruptcy and also helped create the student debt crisis.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mbna-pa...n-backed-bill/


    Thats just a few of his faulures. I wish you spent more time informing yourself on Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I had huge issue with the Trump's kids as much as Biden's family. Yet I don't defend Ivanka, Eric, or the others. The only one I do defend is Barron because he is a child.
    Bitching about Biden getting Hunter a job while Trump is doing the things he's doing with his kids is like kicking the door open at a burn unit and demanding to see a doctor because you have a leg cramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Regarding the swine flu
    Funny how things change, now that Trump needs to defend his mishandling:

    Trump said Obama administration was handling early days of Swine Flu outbreak 'fine,' cautioned not to overreact
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/polit...flu/index.html

    What happened? Why did Trump change his mind?
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    So they did things wrong and still didn't kill 220,000+ Americans? Sounds like they're better achieving good outcomes when doing things wrong than Trump is when he's doing things "right"!

    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Bidens China efforts lead to millions of american job losses.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...for-president/
    So I'm seeing this is largely going after Biden for praising President Xi? And vague, unsupported "LOST JOBS TO CHINA"? Well, on the former I hate to break it to you, but Trump is pretty friendly with Xi when he thinks it suits him. On the latter...

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/new...iff/index.html - Obama tariffs on China, similar to Trump's, ended up costing jobs rather than saving them. Because being "tough" doesn't always work as intended.

    Trump's also not doing any better, with 700,000 manufacturing jobs lost to China in his first two years, which is far beyond the rate they were lost before - https://www.americanmanufacturing.or...o-3-7-million/

    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Biden sided with credit card companies and authored a law that made it harder for consumers to declare bankruptcy and also helped create the student debt crisis.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mbna-pa...n-backed-bill/
    Man, you'll be furious to know that it was a Republican Senate that Biden voted with to pass that bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi View Post
    Thats just a few of his faulures. I wish you spent more time informing yourself on Biden.
    Cool, everyone makes mistakes throughout their careers.

    I mean, noted businessman and dealmaker Donald Trump has somehow managed to bankrupt multiple casinos.

    Still not seeing how any of this is remotely worse than anything Trump is doing or proposing.

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