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I feel like it's time again to repost this gem from exactly 7 months ago today from one of your fellow Trump-worshiping apologists.Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
Warning: time has not been kind to this post. (updates in red):
And not that it should still have to be noted, but we're nowhere near done with this pandemic yet.
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2020-10-23, 07:01 PM #20301Titan
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R.I.P. Democracy
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
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2020-10-23, 07:02 PM #20302Moderator
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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ting-in-months
I'd prefer a leader who actually leads.President Trump has not been to a White House coronavirus task force meeting in several months, Anthony Fauci said Friday.
During an interview on Meet the Press Daily, Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease doctor said he hasn't directly interacted or spoken with Trump in some time.
"I definitely don't have his ear as much as Scott Atlas right now, that has been a changing situation," Fauci said.
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2020-10-23, 07:06 PM #20303Mechagnome
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Very low information post. Swine Flu is far less deadly than Corona. Originally Posted by Edge-
You dont seem to have read my post. It is regarding Chinas grant for "most-favored-nation trade status " which Biden led the effort towards.So I'm seeing this is largely going after Biden for praising President Xi? And vague, unsupported "LOST JOBS TO CHINA"? Well, on the former I hate to break it to you, but Trump is pretty friendly with Xi when he thinks it suits him. On the latter...
https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/new...iff/index.html - Obama tariffs on China, similar to Trump's, ended up costing jobs rather than saving them. Because being "tough" doesn't always work as intended.
Trump's also not doing any better, with 700,000 manufacturing jobs lost to China in his first two years, which is far beyond the rate they were lost before - https://www.americanmanufacturing.or...o-3-7-million/
And this changes Bidens approval of it or Trumps criticism of it how?Man, you'll be furious to know that it was a Republican Senate that Biden voted with to pass that bill.
So beefing up a hostile nation like china whil sacrificing million of american jobs, his support for nafta which also killed millions of american jobs, supported and defended the Iraq war,according to robert gates has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades, a crime bill that destroyed generations of families....Cool, everyone makes mistakes throughout their careers.
I mean, noted businessman and dealmaker Donald Trump has somehow managed to bankrupt multiple casinos.
Still not seeing how any of this is remotely worse than anything Trump is doing or proposing.
but Trump is worse because he bankrupted casinos and said pussy?
This is laughable. Sit down.
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2020-10-23, 07:10 PM #20304Banned
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Joe Biden is currently outlining his plan to deal with the coronavirus if hes made President.
Imagine that, a clear plan that follows science instead of angry denial tweets. Thats leadership.
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2020-10-23, 07:11 PM #20305Titan
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For the people arguing about 'feels" for voters in PA. Ill leave this here ...
Returned ballots in PA so far, per PA SOS Kathy Boockvar:
•Dem = 1,023,402
•Rep = 293,318
•Other = 132,680
Why is the GOP is afraid of counting votes? Get your vote counted, make fascists afraid
Blue Wave <meep> <meep>
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2020-10-23, 07:15 PM #20306Void Lord
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Trump claimed Covid is just the flu. Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
China was made that permanent in 2001, with Bush as president, not Biden:You dont seem to have read my post. It is regarding Chinas grant for "most-favored-nation trade status " which Biden led the effort towards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_favoured_nation
The reason for it, was the business that elites like Trump had in China, that lobbied Bush admin to make it permanent. No... it’s businessman like Trump that pushed it through his lobbying.
Trump was one of the businessmen setting deals for China to be like this. Just like Ivanka with he trade marks and Trumps own, current, bank account in China.And this changes Bidens approval of it or Trumps criticism of it how?
Trump is one of the elite businessmen who did this... as he said last night... he is a business man, they all did it. Trump was the guy who saw muslims dancing on rooftops, demanding war on Howard Stern, while bragging about busting in on teenage girl locker rooms.So beefing up a hostile nation like china whil sacrificing million of american jobs, his support for nafta which also killed millions of american jobs, supported and defended the Iraq war,according to robert gates has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades, a crime bill that destroyed generations of families....
China owned 200000 of that debt... the tax payer paid for those bankruptcy... he has failed at everything in his life, other than convince you he is worth voting for.but Trump is worse because he bankrupted casinos and said pussy?
You support a billionaire with business all over the world, while complaining about Biden.This is laughable. Sit down.
Edit: Did you like how Trump kept talking about wallstreet and business doing great, when they asked him what his plan is for American people? Joe had to remind him that wallstreet and billionaires are not the only Americans... Red states and Blue states, are all America... not billionaires and wallstreet only...
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Can’t... the imagination is limited by how to shit on fellow Americans, because Trump thinks it’s funny. Originally Posted by Deja Thoris
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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2020-10-23, 07:16 PM #20307Scarab Lord
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See, this troll keeps successfully deflecting from the central points by drooling out "BUT BIDEN WRONG" again and again, and it works, because conservative trolls thrive on a rational person's desire to correct bad information. So long as he keeps putting out things that are just a little bit off, you never stop to examine that the entire core of his premise is self-defeating. Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
For example, part of why the disease spread was that the administration didn't do the things that Trump is also refusing to do now - shutting down and requiring societal change to contain the virus. Life went on mostly as usual. So while you keep screeching "bUt BiDeN," you're ignoring that the so-called "mistake" is exactly what Trump is trying to do. You are simultaneously taking two opposite positions in the same argument.
Second, H1N1 was what fueled the Obama administration's development of a plan that Trump is now largely ignoring. So they learned from their mistakes, figured out a response to prepare for the next one... and apparently it got thrown in a drawer.Last edited by Grapemask; 2020-10-23 at 07:22 PM.
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2020-10-23, 07:18 PM #20308Elemental Lord
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Trump said back in spring that covid was "no big deal" and a "hoax", your attempts at trade policy reads like a regurgitated bs talking points memo. You really should be take your own advice, Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
This is laughable. Sit down.
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They briefed 30 members of Trump staff on pandemic response... he fired them all. They had a pandemic response team, Trump cut it to build a wall. Originally Posted by Grapemask
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His links are from TrumpWarRoom, he didn’t even bother with an independent source. He linked directly to the script... lol Originally Posted by Stormspellz
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
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2020-10-23, 07:38 PM #20310The Lightbringer
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Christ sake dude, did you even read the article you linked? We’re you hoping that people here didn’t speak NL and couldn’t use Google translate? That article does not say that Trump won. Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots
It says that Trump could say Trump won and provide reasons why. The very next paragraph says that Biden could say Biden won and pointed out some reasons why.
Then it says that Democrats should still worry as this isn’t essentially a slam dunk.The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.
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2020-10-23, 07:49 PM #20311Old God
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he caused it? Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
You speak like its a bad thing? how dare he cause record unemployment!!!
Answer me this, when someone scores 88 points out of 100, you give all the points and credit to the guy who scored the other 12 or most to the guy who scored 88?
I'd rather have a guy who is willing to admit his failures in the past vs lying 22,000 times in office and counting. A person who never admits he's been wrong or hasn't achieved something.
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Wait....trump just resigned "nafta".....ummm.....supported the iraq war at first (its in his book and interview with Howard stern) .....and are we really going to talk about racism when it comes to trump i mean come on son you can't be that out of it? Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
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Joe Biden was a Senator from 1973 to 2009, a span of 36 years, during which half of it was a Democratic majority. Originally Posted by Donatello Trumpi
Now, that may seem like a lot, but from the '94 elections onwards, where Republicans have truly gone batshit insane and refused to work bipartisanly, he was only in the majority party for TWO YEARS before coming VP (upon which they had another 2 years where he was VP, and thus not really a legislator or even a proposer of legislation).
The crime bill was unanimous, and unlike things Trump has done, Biden thought it would work differently, and acted in what we call in legal circles good faith. He thought it would make black communities better and safer.
What it did was allow racist police to crack down hard unjustifiably on minorities, and their simping DAs to lock them up for crazy amounts of time. Joe Biden, and yes, nearly every American, didn't understand the effects of systemic racism on our criminal justice system, and he has apologized for it, and vows to be better, now. It should be noted: if police weren't inherently racist - the bill had a chance of doing exactly what it set out to do, punish repeat bad actors harshly and clean up neighborhoods.
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I’m not sure if it was Biden or Bill Clinton, but in early 2000s, one of them said it was a mistake, because they underestimated the drug law Reagan passed in late 80s impact on 3 strikes. But, both the violence against women and violence against children, that was part of the crime bill, was solid. Originally Posted by eschatological
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2020-10-23, 07:59 PM #20314Old God
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Okay. Poll schmoll. Let’s look at actual numbers.
In the US, 54,643,908 votes (38.2% of 2016 total vote count) have been turned in so far.
What do we know about the battleground states?
Florida is at 4,771,956 (50% of 2016 total vote count or 34.3% of registered voter). GOP is catching up slowly. It will be a close race.
North Carolina is at 2,697,901 (56.6% of 2016 total vote count). Not remotely close. The gap between Dem and GOP kept getting larger.
Pennsylvania is at 1,461,135 (23.7% of 2016 total vote count). Not close.
Unfortunately, the other battleground states do not report early votes received by party affiliation. At least NC and PA do not look close.
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2020-10-23, 08:00 PM #20315Void Lord
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Thank you! I appreciate the contribution and enjoy the stats... Originally Posted by Rasulis
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2020-10-23, 08:02 PM #20316Titan
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I would be shocked if florida wasn't close, that state almost always is a coin flip, but NC and PA is very encouraging!
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2020-10-23, 08:07 PM #20317Scarab Lord
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100% agree. Originally Posted by matheney2k
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2020-10-23, 08:08 PM #20318Legendary!
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… Originally Posted by fwc577
I don't know how that troll got that conclusion from that article because that's not even remotely what it says. Thanks for making sure it's clarified for the people who still haven't put them on ignore.
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It's been a real treat watching the same alt-Right and Cosplay Socialists voices that railed against "identify politics" a year ago ...
suddenly decide they care about the specific needs of black voters 12 days before an election.
Fuck your dishonesty.
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2020-10-23, 08:37 PM #20320Warchief
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Yup regardless of polls if it is more than +-1% either way I would be shocked. Originally Posted by beanman12345
