Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[kaid]

You can live at hotel, lots of rich and poor people do.

Your place of residence also isn't always where you spend a lot of time.

College students, truck drivers, pilots, military, actors, sales, many politicians, would love their state residency if that were the case.

Yup the guidelines for establishing residence differ from state to state but generally its not that hard. Basically own/rent a place and pay some utilities or have some official bills sent there is enough.

[Kaleredar]

So what's the realistic solution for this upcoming election, then? What's the best path forward in your opinion?

I believe their plan is, and I say this with almost zero exaggeration, to toss up your hands and say "fuck it, Biden doesn't support these issues, he's just another politician!" and be absolutely okay with Trump continuing to be president because of it, with the hope that four more years of Trump will teach the democrats that they need to actually be more progressive to attract more votes, because some magical Prester John of progressive voters are willing to just whisk the real progressive candidate straight into power.

And anything that Trump does, says, laws he passes and judges he installs in the meantime... well, those things aren't important.

[Rasulis]

Am I reading this right? We have almost half of the total votes for 2016 in already?

Around 25%. PA voters are lazy.

NC is already at 62%. Dem: 1,206,995, Rep: 879,222 and NPA: 858,117.

[eschatological]

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Man, I love these guys. I thought Hillary won the rap battle in their last battle, but apparently that didn't matter. Hopefully this one sticks a bit better.

[Orange Joe]

Around 25%. PA voters are lazy.

NC is already at 62%. Dem: 1,206,995, Rep: 879,222 and NPA: 858,117.

Sorry lol. I snipped the image I was talking about that shows about 50 million votes have been counted nationwide so far.

[draynay]

Trump is a a result of decades of Biden like policy.

So we're back to the "Don't vote for Biden, that's how you get Trump! Vote for Trump instead" argument?

[Endus]

Trump is a a result of decades of Biden like policy.

Absolute nonsense.

Trump's election was the result of a broad presence of white supremacism and proto-fascism within American society, which should really surprise no one, since that undercurrent has been breaching the surface regularly for pretty much all of American's 250 years of history. There's a reason Hitler cited American Jim Crow laws and such, explicitly, in Mein Kampf, as examples he was building his own ideology up from.

Any nobody's responsible for Americans being racist proto-fascists, except those racist proto-fascists. They're the ones at fault for their own views. Nobody's got any gun to their heads, forcing them to think a certain way; it's a choice. One they are often unreasonably proud to be be making. Hence, y'know, the whole "white pride" nonsense.

You're just deflecting from those real causes to try and put the blame on everyone who stands against such views, for not leaning close enough to the white supremacist fascism to comfort those voters. That kind of lean would not be a plus, for anyone else.

[Rasulis]

A Biden victory overall, even if he loses Texas itself, will likely be a huge rallying catalyst for the Blue-ing of Texas, especially if it comes down to being an exceptionally close runoff in Texas itself.

And if Republicans lose Texas... they basically cannot win the presidency anymore.

I think it is sad. As the state kept trying to make it harder to vote, at the local levels the communities are doing their best to make it easier for people to vote. Next week my daughter is organizing her employers to provide free rides for people without transportation to vote.

[szechuan]

I believe their plan is, and I say this with almost zero exaggeration, to toss up your hands and say "fuck it, Biden doesn't support these issues, he's just another politician!"

An Establishment Educated Democratic Politician is still better then a horrible "Not a Politician" like Trump.

[Redwyrm]

Obama's speech from Miami

A few quotes

"When 60 Minutes and Lesley Stahl are too tough for you, you ain't all that tough"

"Listen, if [Trump] cannot answer a tough question like, 'What would you like to do in your second term,' then it is our job to make sure he does not get a second term."

"We will not have a POTUS who threatens people with jail for just criticizing him. That is not normal behavior, Florida. You would not tolerate it from a coworker ... 'Florida man' wouldn't even do this stuff. Why are we accepting it from the the president?"

[Endus]

The only non-sense is to believe Trump was an outlier.

I literally just said, in what you just quoted, that Trump was anything but an outlier. That he was the re-emergence of attitudes and viewpoints that have been fundamentally formative to the United States throughout its entire history.

Take a moment to read what people write before tripping over yourself to respond.

[Rasulis]

NC now "must-win" for President Trump according to political experts

The political statistics website fivethirtyeight.com looked at all the polls. They found based on the most recent responses from voters President Trump has a 13 in 100 chance of winning reelection. You can click on each of those pathways Trump could win, and in every one of them shown on the site he has to win North Carolina. Local experts are saying this too like UNCG political science professor Thom Little.

"Biden-Harris can win the election without North Carolina, I don't think Trump can," Little said. "If Trump wins North Carolina, that's going to tell me at that point the Trump-Pence ticket still has a shot."

NC does not look good for him. At 2,956,572 votes in (62% of 2016 total vote count) it is 40.8% Dem, 29.7% Rep and 29% NPA. GOP is barely ahead of No Party Affiliation.

[qwerty123456]

Absolute nonsense.

Trump's election was the result of a broad presence of white supremacism and proto-fascism within American society, which should really surprise no one, since that undercurrent has been breaching the surface regularly for pretty much all of American's 250 years of history. There's a reason Hitler cited American Jim Crow laws and such, explicitly, in Mein Kampf, as examples he was building his own ideology up from.

Any nobody's responsible for Americans being racist proto-fascists, except those racist proto-fascists. They're the ones at fault for their own views. Nobody's got any gun to their heads, forcing them to think a certain way; it's a choice. One they are often unreasonably proud to be be making. Hence, y'know, the whole "white pride" nonsense.

You're just deflecting from those real causes to try and put the blame on everyone who stands against such views, for not leaning close enough to the white supremacist fascism to comfort those voters. That kind of lean would not be a plus, for anyone else.

I gotta disagree. He was elected for the same reason Obama was, people wanted change. I know people who voted for Obama expecting change didn't get it and so voted for Trump as he's a "normal guy" and not a politician.

Sure racists did vote for him but to think millions of his voters were all just racists is silly. I live in a small rural area and even the few black people here were voting Trump because "the Liberals are gonna turn America socialist and steal your guns. Trumps here to save us." and other dumb shit like that people hear but don't do any research on and so believe it.

Man, I love these guys. I thought Hillary won the rap battle in their last battle, but apparently that didn't matter. Hopefully this one sticks a bit better.

Yeah they are amazing. I feel like they have been hitting it out of the park lately some of my most favorite ones are some of the most recent like Thanos vs. Oppenheimer, Carlin vs. Pryor, Cousteau vs Irwin. And aside from the kinda goofy looking Thanos they have been doing better mimicking other people.

[Thepersona]

NC now "must-win" for President Trump according to political experts



NC does not look good for him. At 2,956,572 votes in (62% of 2016 total vote count) it is 40.8% Dem, 29.7% Rep and 29% NPA. GOP is barely ahead of No Party Affiliation.

Lets remember that NPA votes are not distributed evenly.latest polls had them at a 55/45 to 60/40 split, in favor of democrats.

[Elegiac]

There isn't that many White Supremist, and to think Trump won because of them shows how little you think about 30% of the US population.

Lol, not cosplay leftists making the "economic anxiety" argument.

Hint: Their 'economic anxiety' is also a function of white supremacy. It's as nonsense an answer as saying the South was fighting for "states rights" - states rights to do what, exactly?

[Poopymonster]

Shouldn't the turnout then be far higher given mail in ballots are being factored in? Because the GOP surge on Election Day is going to huge?

We'll know how much of a surge it is a few days later when their tests come back positive.

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Could be huge, gonna be interesting to see how interested GOP voters are in 12 hour lines and all the other in person hurdles the GOP added in when lowering election day turn out would be to their advantage.

You think they'll have 12 hour lines in strong GOP areas? *laughs in White Privilege*

[eschatological]

Lol, not cosplay leftists making the "economic anxiety" argument.

Hint: Their 'economic anxiety' is also a function of white supremacy. It's as nonsense an answer as saying the South was fighting for "states rights" - states rights to do what, exactly?

I seem to remember a postmortem of 2016 revealing that the average Trump voter wasn't facing any economic anxiety, just made up anxiety. IIRC, they had like a 55k average salary (not even average household salary, I think).

[DingDongKing]

I fail to understand why anyone would even bother arguing with someone like Jettisawn. He clearly just wants to be the centre of attention.

He doesn't give a toss about the actual election and his best excuse for why he's a 'legitimate' voice is because he's donated to Justice Democrats.

Whoopifuckingdo. So do the folk at the Young Turks, but they're fucking unbearable most days of the week with their incessant whining.

[xmirrors]

Obama's speech in FL was incredible. I miss that man.


Also, I noticed that Trump had that whole event with him voting. Didn't he already mail-in his vote?
Just another photo op for his idiot base?

[postman1782]

For people to vote their conscious, and to acknowledge that Trump voters have legitimate grievances as do non-voters. That constantly shitting on anyone that doesn't agree with you only makes yourself feel better. The only way we'll see systemic change is by setting aside differences in order to change the systemic problems. As has been done in the past at great times of economic disparity. Post election when we manage to get over the worse part of this virus I expect huge swell in national protest, and I am hoping for a General Strike. However I fear Biden will do what he always has and that is work with Republicans, because I struggle to think of a time that has worked out well.

If people like you are so disenchanted that they would vote for Trump out of spite of Bernie not winning, then you aren't voting for conscience, you are voting out of anger. Yes, you may be voting for the lesser of two evils with Biden, but you aren't voting against your own interests as you would if you voted for Trump.

And working with the other party isn't always a bad thing. It depends on what you are working with them on. Working with them on Virus relief? Good, just depends on what each party wants. Democrats want to help the little people and a little bit of corporations and the states that are losing billions paying for Covid tests and whatnot.

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Obama's speech in FL was incredible. I miss that man.


Also, I noticed that Trump had that whole event with him voting. Didn't he already mail-in his vote?
Just another photo op for his idiot base?

Might have been for the primaries.