Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[PACOX]

Because after a while people will see through the scam.

Waving around a rainbow or BLM flag should not be an excuse for not bothering with addressing inequality (wealth or identity) and the growing power of corporations.

Damn, you jumped straight to my conclusion.

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Glad to know you think the civil rights of minorities are a scam.

Thats definitely not what they implied and I believe you're smart enough to know it.

[Elegiac]

Thats definitely not what they implied and I believe you're smart enough to know it.

Actually, no, they've freely admitted in the past that they think social justice is a distraction invented to keep people from noticing wealth inequality and economic exploitation (that isn't true, the latter is a direct result of the issues the former is addressing).

Just so you're aware of what you're agreeing with.

[Elegiac]

Hunter Biden alleged sex tape

Damn someone better stop that dastardly Hunter Biden from getting elected then.

[PACOX]

I'm not sure what you are referring to.

I believe that social justice is being used as a distraction indeed, but also to avoid having to address actual issues of social justice. A bit like the Democratic Party, where is has the power, only name a street after BLM instead of actually addressing anything bad going on in their police departments, or to bother doing any effort in finding actual solutions.

It's a bit like a big corporation putting a stamp of "environmentally friendly" on their product packaging, without actually changing anything about their process. (And it's fans then going: "At least we're doing something!")

The Wedge Issue play

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_issue

There are those who genuinely care and want to work towards change. Then there are those who would be happy with the change but don't want to work for it. Then there are those who content in and really don't give two shits but will feign interest when politically advantageous.


Like how the GOP spend 10 years protesting Obamacare but when they controlled the entire government they couldn't get a healthcare bill passed.

[Leobald]

Damn someone better stop that dastardly Hunter Biden from getting elected then.

It's quite interesting that they attack Biden with the indiscretions of his son, while we know that Trump himself was sleeping around with prostitutes,cheating on all of his wives,and highly likely at least had an Adderall problem.

I mean if you were bothered by Hunter Biden sleeping around, shouldn't this even more bother you with the President?

[SirBeef]

It's quite interesting that they attack Biden with the indiscretions of his son, while we know that Trump himself was sleeping around with prostitutes,cheating on all of his wives,and highly likely at least had an Adderall problem.

I mean if you were bothered by Hunter Biden sleeping around, shouldn't this even more bother you with the President?

No becasue guys on team red have plot armor from the talking points writers.

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Gee I wonder why the party whose voter base is consistently targeted by voter suppression tactics might have enthusiasm and turnout issues.



And because this is a zero sum electoral system, which given that the person you describe is likely a lazy Twitter leftist they are doing absolutely fuck all to try and change, their decision to stay their ass home has helped the GOP thus sending a message that they are so utterly divorced from any actual political issue that they can afford to consider the choice between a neoliberal and a neoconservative as a non-choice.

Look, while I agree I live in a mostly Dem voting area. in 2008, of the 2000 registered voters in my polling location, nearly 1800 were registered Dems. in 2008, 1700 votes were cast. in 2010, I know it was a mid term, only 258 votes were cast. Of those 258, almost 90% were registered republicans. Dems have a bad habit of not following through.

[Ausr]

You know how you know it's Hunter Biden? It must be because Joe Biden is on the TV! Clearly that is Hunter Biden because he has his dad on the tv and therefore, that makes it Hunter!

It all makes sense now.

[nonameelf]

Republicans are attacking Hunter more than they're attacking Joe at this point.

[SirBeef]

Republicans are attacking Hunter more than they're attacking Joe at this point.

Because they have nothing on Biden becasue he's actually an honest, clean dude.

[DingDongKing]

Because they have nothing on Biden becasue he's actually an honest, clean dude.

Tbh it's getting to the point where they're just harassing an American citizen. I'm extremely surprised that no legal action has been taken.

[Draco-Onis]

Because they have nothing on Biden becasue he's actually an honest, clean dude.

I wouldn't count out William Barr holding a last minute press conference announcing some investigation into the Bidens, Obama or some weird stuff Trump wants. They will do anything at this point it's not like they care about the law.

[Felya]

Give it time. 4 years of Biden and there'll be a lot more radicalized people.

No, there won’t be. If people are not up in arms over Trump, you won’t get them to rise against Biden...

Didn't you vehemently support CHAZ too while it was on-going by the way? Seems like a pretty strong "burn it all down"-action.

If you believe Fox News... Remember how you started to lie that you live in Florida, when people claimed that Bernie couldn’t win it? I actually live in Seattle.

[Bodakane]

In my town pretty much nothing changes no matter who is in except for gas prices/taxes/shit like that unless something drastic happens. These people don't have a problem with Trump because he hasn't done anything to them. They have heard and seen the nearby riots though and people calling them scum and so people like you end up being the problem and end up making shit even worse because they then tell their friends of the asshole liberals who called them racist/whatever or want all guns banned(massive hunting community where the only gun deaths are suicides) and now 2 people are pro Trump.

Did you just tell us that in a town full of people who....

don't have a problem with Trump because he hasn't done anything to them.

that we should care about their opinion even though their issues "haven't done anything to us".....or two of them will vote Trump?

Really?

[Felya]

I've already stated multiple times I'm voting Biden. No I won't cheer lead for him.

I don’t care... The point of complaining that you are not voting and attacking Biden, has always been contrasting Biden and Trump as candidates. The fact that you vote for Biden, but then ask us to suckle on the GOP disinformation tit, like Hunter conspiracy theories, shows that the conflict isn’t resolved.

I don’t do tribal bullshit... just because you are voting Biden, doesn’t mean I will ignore your bullshit. I know that’s how you have been convinced things work by reactionaries, but this homie don’t play the tribalism game. It’s how I figured out that your tact seeming like it always comes from GOP, is the same fucking neoliberal shit you have been tossing at people disagreeing with you. Explain how all this shit, isn’t the ‘bend the knee to GOP’ that results in ACA instead of MFA? How this isn’t the same neoliberal support of GOP policy in the name of compromise?

[Machismo]

In my town pretty much nothing changes no matter who is in except for gas prices/taxes/shit like that unless something drastic happens. These people don't have a problem with Trump because he hasn't done anything to them. They have heard and seen the nearby riots though and people calling them scum and so people like you end up being the problem and end up making shit even worse because they then tell their friends of the asshole liberals who called them racist/whatever or want all guns banned(massive hunting community where the only gun deaths are suicides) and now 2 people are pro Trump.

This is a paradox.

They don't have a problem with Trump, because they support Trump and his racist bullshit. They are called scum, because they support Trump and his racist bullshit.

It's an idiotic lie that pushes the false narrative that people support Trump, because others called them racist. You got it backwards.

That's like a dude who cheats on his girlfriend, saying he's cheating, because he's upset that his girlfriend thinks he's a cheater.

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Give it time. 4 years of Biden and there'll be a lot more radicalized people.

Didn't you vehemently support CHAZ too while it was on-going by the way? Seems like a pretty strong "burn it all down"-action.

So, are you still voting for Trump?

[jonnysensible]

If you can't reach people in the rest of the First World (including Belgium) with your campaign ads in the USA, then you're probably doing a bad job.

just quoting this because its the funniest post ive seen on this forum in a while.

[Monster Hunter]

The period from 1850 to 1916 (that is a really nonsensical cut off there, 1789 to 1914 is a better cut off for that general period) involved Europe colonising all of Africa and almost all of east Asia, bar China, they certainly tried with that one, Japan, and what was then known as Siam, now Thailand, and Europe were itself the stage to multiple large wars between European powers, as well as numerous genocides at their hand in colonies.

Yes, but its been no better under america, america just chooses to be blind to whats going ln and whst it causes, much like the imperial newspapers never reported there own atrocitys

[Felya]

Yeah, no he can hide behind those parts of the bill but just 4 years ago he was saying it had no impact and it was a good thing. Now he is just saying what people want to hear, and you all taking him at his word.

Yes, and just a few days ago, he explained him self at the debates. The issue with the three strike rule, is the drug offenses that were kicked off by Reagan in the 80s. The issue with 3 strikes is that a simple pot possession is counted as a strike. If you remove drugs from a reason to be arrested, how much harm does the 3 strike rule does?

He championed the worst part of the bill.

Bullshit... What’s is the impact of the three strike rule, if the Reagan Drug war doesn’t exist?

Just like he championed the Iraq War.

Bullshit... He wasn’t the one screaming about Muslims dancing in the rooftops. He isn’t the one who ran on ‘bomb the shit out of them, and give their oil to Exxon’. There is a reason why Cindy Sheehan wasn’t protesting in front of Biden’s ranch. There is a reason why Biden didn’t call French fries, freedom fries or demand retribution from Muslims, as Trump did.

In fact... I can deduce that by this logic, if Trump starts a war with Iran, you will blame Biden or which ever candidate runs as DNC in 2024. When Bush gained War Powers, did you bitch about Biden? What about when Trump vetoes congress taking his war powers against Iran away? When Trump starts a war with Iran, will you hold your head high that you criticized Biden’s vote enough?

He wasn't some innocent naive congressman when he worked on bills with segregationist. He has been one of the democrats to the right of most other Democrats. He is and was blue dog democrat. Stop pretending like we are getting someone who is going to push things to the left, because he isn't. I's not who Joe Biden is, and his administration will only show that to be true when it's filled with a bunch of Bankers, former Lobbyist, and other Lincoln Republicans.

I know for a fact that compared to 4 more years of Trump, any bullshit you can come up for Biden, will be a liberal Utopia. Sorry, done with neoliberal bullshit... tried the ‘all the same’ with Hillary... Done... I’m voting Biden and this is all the concession I am giving Trump supporters... Neoliberalism doesn’t work... enough bending the knee to regressive... enough is enough.:



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just quoting this because its the funniest post ive seen on this forum in a while.

I was about to say... why do all the juicy American politics arguments happen around 2AM in the morning...

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It is a bold strategy to not appeal to people who's IQ's are so low they fail at search engines, I agree. We'll see if it works.

He does claim to be a legal immigrant and you know what Trump said about our IQ at the debates.

[SirBeef]

I wouldn't count out William Barr holding a last minute press conference announcing some investigation into the Bidens, Obama or some weird stuff Trump wants. They will do anything at this point it's not like they care about the law.

Well they had two seperat investigations into exactly that and found nothing. Even announced no announcement on the big one until after the election. They've tried the everything from Obama spying to the Steele dossier and everything time they come up with nothing illegal happened. But ironically they keep finding that the DoJ has tampered with stuff. Funny.

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Tbh it's getting to the point where they're just harassing an American citizen. I'm extremely surprised that no legal action has been taken.

Except he's running for president. Sad, but it makes this shit fair game.

[draynay]

Except he's running for president. Sad, but it makes this shit fair game.

Hunter is not running for anything.