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    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    That image would be a powerful ad. Do it, Lincoln Project!
    Lincoln Project doesn't want M4A though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Anyone actually believing this nonsense deserves Trump as their President, tbh.
    For context, go to 14:23 in this video. Holy shit, Pete is going to be a leader if he can lean a little more progressive as time goes by.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    You realize your jails are open and there's still people not doing everything they could to support the regime, so you modify exactly who's "undesirable" and expand your scope.
    "First we will kill all the subversives; then we will kill all their collaborators; then their sympathisers; then those who remained indifferent; and finally, we'll kill the undecided."

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    Michael Steele just endorsed Biden... “because I am an American first”...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Genuinely, how does one support this demented old fool?
    I have no idea. Biden has said time and time again that he wants to public option, as well as a private option for those who want enhanced coverage.

    I don't see how anyone could be against that aside from those who are more concerned with a slight tax increase, than the well being of the less fortunate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I have no idea. Biden has said time and time again that he wants to public option, as well as a private option for those who want enhanced coverage.

    I don't see how anyone could be against that aside from those who are more concerned with a slight tax increase, than the well being of the less fortunate.
    A lot of people only claim to actually care, especially online. In reality, they can be very much with the "I'm ok, don't care about you" crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    In reality, they can be very much with the "I'm ok, don't care about you" crowd.
    This is the single biggest issue regarding voting in most countries. 'I'm fine, you can go die in a ditch'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    This is the single biggest issue regarding voting in most countries. 'I'm fine, you can go die in a ditch'.
    Very prevalent in the US, though. "Fuck you, I got mine" is synonymous with them, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    For context, go to 14:23 in this video. Holy shit, Pete is going to be a leader if he can lean a little more progressive as time goes by.

    He doesn't even really need to lean, he's a solid moderate.

    I'm as libertarian as they come, and I would have voted for him if he had won the nomination. I think he would have taken the military vote from Trump, as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    He doesn't even really need to lean, he's a solid moderate.

    I'm as libertarian as they come, and I would have voted for him if he had won the nomination. I think he would have taken the military vote from Trump, as well.
    It's interesting how the Dems have a more viable succession plan in place should they win 2020. Harris, then Pete, then AOC. All the Trumps crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    It's interesting how the Dems have a more viable succession plan in place should they win 2020. Harris, then Pete, then AOC. All the Trumps crying.
    Well, it helps that your platform is clearly represented and tries to hear the younger voters, and is not an old and dying one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    It's interesting how the Dems have a more viable succession plan in place should they win 2020. Harris, then Pete, then AOC. All the Trumps crying.
    Harris has a ton of baggage, Pete Buttigieg doesn't. On paper, he's much more likely to appeal to moderates and independents, without losing the solid blue states. Anyone who wouldn't vote for him, because he's gay, was never going to vote for him. He would need to work to increase appeal to black voters. Harris is a very strong-willed person, and it works well for her (it didn't work for Hillary). Either would be good for the Democrats in 2024 and beyond.

    AOC is a non-starter, I just don't think she has enough overall appeal among moderates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Harris has a ton of baggage, Pete Buttigieg doesn't. On paper, he's much more likely to appeal to moderates and independents, without losing the solid blue states. Anyone who wouldn't vote for him, because he's gay, was never going to vote for him. He would need to work to increase appeal to black voters. Harris is a very strong-willed person, and it works well for her (it didn't work for Hillary). Either would be good for the Democrats in 2024 and beyond.

    AOC is a non-starter, I just don't think she has enough overall appeal among moderates.
    I think long term AOC could, but that's very contingent on a) her understanding that coalitions matter b) America becoming more progressive.

    Give it 20 years. I would say no sooner than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    I think long term AOC could, but that's very contingent on a) her understanding that coalitions matter b) America becoming more progressive.

    Give it 20 years. I would say no sooner than that.
    You nailed it on the first part, she doesn't like to play ball. Honestly, that's what I actually like about her, because she doesn't mind pissing off her own side. But, it also means that she isn't going to gain a lot of traction among mainstream voters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You nailed it on the first part, she doesn't like to play ball. Honestly, that's what I actually like about her, because she doesn't mind pissing off her own side. But, it also means that she isn't going to gain a lot of traction among mainstream voters.
    Pretty much. I think she's got so much potential, but compromise is key. That doesn't mean dropping principles, it means adopting a unified view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Anyone actually believing this nonsense deserves Trump as their President, tbh.
    While true, the rest of the sane people certainly don't.


    Also making sure to get his bullshit excuses in for why he's so shit at debating.


    Imagine supporting this man and thinking he is strong and a great leader lol
    Trump is such a garbage tier human being it's ridiculous. I've had discussions with people who have tried to argue about how great he is as a leader because of his policies and whatnot and I told them I couldn't care less about any of that. His behavior is enough for me to disqualify him as a person who should be president. He's an unabashed asshole who has absolutely zero qualms about shitting on and making fun of anyone that disagrees with him. That's speaks to his mind set and mental capacity, among other things, and that is absolutely not the kind of person I want as the President.

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    He's not even a good leader. Morale across the entire administration and connected branches is at an all-time low.

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