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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Another miscalculation by
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Another miscalculation by Biden on the cost of his proposals.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...c-college-cost
    Sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of Trump's complete inability to even come close to getting the costs of his proposals right.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/polit...are/index.html

    Shortly after President Donald Trump abruptly ended an interview with "60 Minutes" anchor Lesley Stahl, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany showed up with a massively large book in tow.

    "Lesley, the President wanted me to deliver his health care plan," said McEnany. "It's a little heavy."
    Except it wasn't Trump's health care plan. Because that, well, doesn't exist. Instead, according to the "60 Minutes" Twitter feed, the book was "filled with executive orders and congressional initiatives, but no comprehensive healthcare plan."
    Reminder: Trump wants to remove the ACA entirely, and has no plan to replace it.

    He and his administration have repeatedly said there's a plan, but have failed to produce anything resembling even an outline of the plan. Instead, they've lied repeatedly about it, claiming it exists while providing documentation on previous EO's that have anything to do with health care, but have nothing to do with creating a new health care plan.

    Because Republicans have no plan. They are not a party of ideas any longer. They are incapable of leading. They are a reactionary party serving their financial interests that keep them in power, nothing more.

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    A wild Florida Man appears!

    WaPo: A Florida man stole a bulldozer, knocked down a fence and stole Biden signs, police said
    Residents in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Haines City, Fla., knew something was off on Saturday when they saw a young White man driving a bulldozer on the street. As he made his way down the block, the man began running over every lawn sign in sight supporting Joe Biden.

    “This man came onto my property, took the two Joe Biden signs I had in my yard and then came back with a bulldozer to run down my fence,” Adam Burgess, a local homeowner, told Bay News 9.

    The man, later identified by police as 26-year-old James Blight, was charged with grand theft auto and trespassing, according to the outlet.

    ...

    Police allege that Blight went to a nearby construction site, stole a bulldozer and headed to Burgess’s yard, where the man ran down the fence and seized the Biden signs. It is unclear if the man removed the signs before or after retrieving the machine.

    ...

    Police said that Blight also tore down a city speed-limit sign.

    Police soon arrested Blight, who told authorities he was drunk during the incident and couldn’t remember what happened, according to Bay News 9. The Haines City Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Blight remained in custody in Polk County as of early Monday, according to jail records; it’s not clear whether he has an attorney yet.

    Burgess, a former vice mayor of Haines City, said the charges against Blight weren’t strong enough. In a Facebook Live video on Saturday, Burgess said Blight’s actions were racially motivated, given that the neighborhood is mostly made up of Black residents.

    “There needs to be more punishment,” Burgess, who is Black, told Bay News 9. “This was a hate crime.”

    Burgess said he believes that the destruction of his property is directly correlated with President Trump’s rhetoric around intimidation and violence.

    ...

    Undeterred by the event, Burgess and his friends responded by putting up about 30 Biden signs around the house a few hours after the incident.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    A wild Florida Man appears!

    WaPo: A Florida man stole a bulldozer, knocked down a fence and stole Biden signs, police said

    Residents in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Haines City, Fla., knew something was off on Saturday when they saw a young White man driving a bulldozer on the street. As he made his way down the block, the man began running over every lawn sign in sight supporting Joe Biden.

    “This man came onto my property, took the two Joe Biden signs I had in my yard and then came back with a bulldozer to run down my fence,” Adam Burgess, a local homeowner, told Bay News 9.

    The man, later identified by police as 26-year-old James Blight, was charged with grand theft auto and trespassing, according to the outlet.

    ...

    Police allege that Blight went to a nearby construction site, stole a bulldozer and headed to Burgess’s yard, where the man ran down the fence and seized the Biden signs. It is unclear if the man removed the signs before or after retrieving the machine.

    ...

    Police said that Blight also tore down a city speed-limit sign.

    Police soon arrested Blight, who told authorities he was drunk during the incident and couldn’t remember what happened, according to Bay News 9. The Haines City Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Blight remained in custody in Polk County as of early Monday, according to jail records; it’s not clear whether he has an attorney yet.

    Burgess, a former vice mayor of Haines City, said the charges against Blight weren’t strong enough. In a Facebook Live video on Saturday, Burgess said Blight’s actions were racially motivated, given that the neighborhood is mostly made up of Black residents.

    “There needs to be more punishment,” Burgess, who is Black, told Bay News 9. “This was a hate crime.”

    Burgess said he believes that the destruction of his property is directly correlated with President Trump’s rhetoric around intimidation and violence.

    ...

    Undeterred by the event, Burgess and his friends responded by putting up about 30 Biden signs around the house a few hours after the incident.
    The best part about an event that has so many things to be delighted about, is that their goal of hurting Biden's campaign by removing signs immediately backfires when the event garners capturing a local news cycle.

    Thank you Burgess for the free ads! Biden appreciates it!

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    The best case scenario would be Biden winning WI, MI, OH, PA, FL, and NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    The best part about an event that has so many things to be delighted about, is that their goal of hurting Biden's campaign by removing signs immediately backfires when the event garners capturing a local news cycle.

    Thank you Burgess for the free ads! Biden appreciates it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    The best case scenario would be Biden winning WI, MI, OH, PA, FL, and NC.
    No, the best case scenario would be Biden winning all 50 states, cause then it would show how fucking stupid we were for letting Trump get elected in the first place and it would be a mea culpa to the world. Anything less than that, shows the country has a LOT to learn and atone for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    The best case scenario would be Biden winning WI, MI, OH, PA, FL, and NC.
    IA and GA are definitely on the table, too. As is Texas, theoretically, though those odds are looong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Another miscalculation by Biden on the cost of his proposals.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...c-college-cost

    Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said that the government could provide four-year college educations for $150 billion, only for his campaign to later admit it would really be closer to double that amount.

    During an interview that aired Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," Biden bragged about the number as a feature of proposed "significant institutional changes" that would include a 15% minimum tax on corporations, saying it would raise more than $400 billion.


    "I can send every single qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion," Biden said. "I can make sure every single person who qualifies for community college can go and we still have a lotta money left over. That's what I mean by significant institutional changes.

    "60 Minutes" noted that organizations like the Tax Policy Center have questioned the validity of Biden's claims that the corporate tax would raise that much money. His quoted cost of education was also off the mark, according to his campaign.


    "After our interview, Mr. Biden's staff told us he misspoke, and that the cost of free public college could be twice as much as he said," CBS' Norah O'Donnell said in a voice-over after Biden's claim aired.

    whelp at least he did not get a tax cut wrong by several trillion.
    Also why is it a problem when the way to pay it is still higher than the cost?

    400 billion vs 300 billion

    maybe math is a problem for you?

    Even at 300 billion its still a great return on the investment.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  11. #20811
    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...2-bf508f86d92b

    Superspreader event in DC, a "worship protest".

    Given that we know the types to attend this kind of thing are also the types to not wear masks, social distance, or follow any medical guidance (as evidenced in part by the largely maskless crowd singing, shoulder to shoulder in the linked video), this has all the makes of yet one more superspreader event.

    It'd be a shame if some of them were too sick to show up to the polls and vote on Nov. 3, a damn shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Another miscalculation by Biden on the cost of his proposals.....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...c-college-cost

    Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said that the government could provide four-year college educations for $150 billion, only for his campaign to later admit it would really be closer to double that amount.

    During an interview that aired Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes," Biden bragged about the number as a feature of proposed "significant institutional changes" that would include a 15% minimum tax on corporations, saying it would raise more than $400 billion.


    "I can send every single qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion," Biden said. "I can make sure every single person who qualifies for community college can go and we still have a lotta money left over. That's what I mean by significant institutional changes.

    "60 Minutes" noted that organizations like the Tax Policy Center have questioned the validity of Biden's claims that the corporate tax would raise that much money. His quoted cost of education was also off the mark, according to his campaign.


    "After our interview, Mr. Biden's staff told us he misspoke, and that the cost of free public college could be twice as much as he said," CBS' Norah O'Donnell said in a voice-over after Biden's claim aired.
    Beyond laughable.

    You pearl clutch over a verbal gaffe, when you have no qualms supporting a man responsible for at least 100,000 preventable deaths and who through his actions will directly cause another 100,000 preventable deaths between now and the end of February.

    As a human being you are complete scum.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    IA and GA are definitely on the table, too. As is Texas, theoretically, though those odds are looong.
    The race for Texas for the Democrats will depend on Texas ten largest counties.

    Harris alone is worth 15% of the total votes in Texas in 2016 and also in early voting 2020. Obama won Harris by 1% in 2008 and 2020. Clinton by 12% and O’Rourke by 16.7%. If Biden can win Harris by between 20 - 30%, that will be a game changer.

    Then there is the turnout. Harris, Dallas, Tarrant, Bexar and Travis currently account for 49% of Texas early voting. Well ahead of 2016 where these five counties accounted for 42% of Texas total votes. Dallas voted Hillary +26%, Bexar +13% and Travis +38%. The biggest weakness is Bexar which tends to have low turnout when compared to Dallas and Travis. Even in 2020, although the county is doing better, it still lags behind Dallas and Travis.

    This is where it gets interesting. Trump won Tarrant county by 8.5% in 2016. O’Rourke won Tarrant by 4,290 votes in 2018. There was an 8% shift in the parties balance of power in Tarrant between 2016 and 2018. If Biden can flip Tarrant that will be big.

    Lets take a look at a couple more large Texas counties. Trump won Denton by 20% in 2016, Cruz won by only 8% (12% shift). Trump won Collin by 17% in 2016, Cruz won by 6% in 2018 (11% shift). Flipping Denton and Collin is probably a tall order. However, if Biden can close the gap, that will really help. The same with Montgomery and Williamson. If Biden can narrow the gaps to single digit that would be great.

    The remaining counties, Fort Ben and El Paso are pretty solid Blue. El Paso voted for Clinton +44%. So turnout, turnout, turnout.
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    Another ballot box set on fire...this time in Boston:

    Dozens of ballots destroyed after fire set at Boston dropbox

    Authorities have charged a man for allegedly lighting a ballot box on fire and damaging dozens of ballots in Boston over the weekend, police said Monday. The Boston Election Department said 87 of the 122 ballots inside the dropbox were legible and able to be processed, but the rest were destroyed or unable to be counted.

    Worldly Armand, 39, was taken into custody late Sunday after officers matched his appearance with the description of a person wanted for the alleged arson, police said. After a query by the officers, they found Armand was wanted on a warrant out of a local court for receiving stolen property. He will be arraigned in Boston Municipal Court on a charge of willful and malicious burning.

    Police said smoke was coming out of a ballot box near Copley Square early Sunday morning and firefighters extinguished the fire by filling it with water. The Boston Police Department released photos to help find the culprit.
    Thankfully "only" a few dozen ballots were destroyed and the local government is sending out new ballots to everyone identified as having deposited a ballot there in the time just before the damage was done, so ultimately this shouldn't have an effect on the election.

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    I voted. First time voting democrat since Obama's first term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Another ballot box set on fire...this time in Boston:

    Dozens of ballots destroyed after fire set at Boston dropbox



    Thankfully "only" a few dozen ballots were destroyed and the local government is sending out new ballots to everyone identified as having deposited a ballot there in the time just before the damage was done, so ultimately this shouldn't have an effect on the election.
    I'm about to drop mine and my brothers off at a local dropbox this week, nobody in my sleeply little town better feel the need for some fire. We already got enough of that shit from the wildfires, and I don't need to worry about my ballot not getting counted.

    Also, fuck some of the propositions on the CA ballot. Prop 24 is a fuckin doozy of a proposition, with some great shit in there and...some really bad shit that functionally seems to undermine it. Really unsure of my vote still, and I desperately hope we can get a better written law/proposition to protect consumer data in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Also, fuck some of the propositions on the CA ballot.
    Fuck Proposition 22 in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You and I have had our share of differences, but we've always been on the same side of the equation. Faithless posters like @Donatello Trumpi aren't worth responding to, except perhaps for practice against literate adversaries. You're never going to get a "you're right", although it is nice to see him eat his own words.

    I say this of course and I don't follow my own advice....
    He really isn't. He posted some dogwhistle standard talking point bullshit, and when asked to explain so he couldn't try the standard bigot weasel tactic of claiming people were putting words in his mouth, he just bailed on posting(but not reading, I saw your logins sucka) till today.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Another miscalculation by Biden on the cost of his proposals.....
    He should just say Mexico will pay for it, amirite?
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Fuck Proposition 22 in particular.
    That was a hella easy "no" at least. I don't mind if there are obvious garbage ones, 24 just hits me because there's some good shit in there I like and it does make some improvements on the existing legislation, but the removal of "Devices" from the categories of data sales (just individual/family now) and the increase in the minimum sale threshhold from 50K to 100K really rubs me the wrong way. Not a fan of putting the onus on individuals to manually request opting out of data collection/sales rather than forcing online companies to ask user for permission, which I could live with were it not for some of the other issues.

    In other news - https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/healt...vid/index.html

    Utah hospitals could be days away from using a patient's age, health and other factors to decide who can remain in overcrowded intensive care units due to an onslaught of Covid-19 cases.

    A group of administrators representing Utah's hospitals presented Gov. Gary Herbert with a list of "criteria they propose doctors should use if they are forced to decide which patients can stay in overcrowded intensive care units," The Salt Lake Tribune reported.
    Reminder -

    The "death panels" Republicans whinged and pearl clutched about in 2008 over the Affordable Care Act, which were never a thing under Obama, exist in a very real way in Trump's America. Doctors are literally deciding if grandma and/or grandpa get hospital treatment or not, and if the hospital is overcrowded then older covid victims may be shit outta luck.

    Remember about the fears of "rationing health care" under a M4A plan? It's very real under the current private insurance system.

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