Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[kaelleria]

https://twitter.com/TheNVIndy/status...05660818358272

Judge rejects Trump campaign effort to slow down, amend Clark County mail ballot counting and processing system

ARE YOU TIRED OF WINNING YET?!

[Breccia]

Not that I disagree with this logic overall, but I think the day before the election might be better spent firing up your base in more likely swing states.

Trump leads in Ohio by 0.4%.

[kaelleria]

Biden had 25 events in PA in the last week...

I think he can afford to go to *checks a map* the next state over and be ok.

[Edge-]

A federal judge in Texas on Monday appeared skeptical of an attempt by Republicans to throw out about 127,000 votes already cast in the U.S. presidential election at drive-through voting sites in Houston, a Democratic-leaning area.

U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen said the Republicans who brought the case faced an uphill road in convincing him that the votes should be voided.

The judge said the plaintiffs needed to show that Harris County Clerk Chris Hollins, a Democrat, had an “evil motive” in allowing drive-through voting as an alternative during the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27I29V

Good news on the voting case in TX, federal judge doesn't seem terribly inclined to toss the votes out apparently.

Man, I'd love to hear the legal definition of "evil" be, "They might win an election because people were allowed to vote!"

[kaelleria]

How Monmouth changed their polling weights between 2016 and 2020 -

https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1...998390787?s=21

This comparison of Monmouth's final PA polls shows how samples have been adjusted to avoid a 2016 surprise. 2016 weighting on left, 2020 on right.

Dems are down from +11 to +2. And education weighting is added to ensure 64% are non-college.

Biden leads anyway, by 5 to 7 points.

[Edge-]

Real question: What the fuck is a "non-scalable barrier"? IS it like...electrified? Are there running blades all over it? IS there a meat grinder at the top that sucks people in? I WANT TO KNOW!

Though color me amused that, once again, Trump is turtling up in the White House and hiding in a bunker.

[kaelleria]

Real question: What the fuck is a "non-scalable barrier"? IS it like...electrified? Are there running blades all over it? IS there a meat grinder at the top that sucks people in? I WANT TO KNOW!

Though color me amused that, once again, Trump is turtling up in the White House and hiding in a bunker.

Probably barbed wire or something...

[Breccia]

Real question: What the fuck is a "non-scalable barrier"?

Remember how Trump said nobody would be able to climb his Wall?

And then people just...you know...did it for fun?

And then parts fell over?

Look, it's the same fence as last time. It has barbed wire on the top. Anyone could climb it. The trick is climbing it without being shot.

[DarkAmbient]

He's been trying to do that.

Trump has already demanded that a winner be decided by midnight Tuesday evening. Any votes uncounted after that time will be discarded.

Can he even do this? I mean what the actual fuck

Every time I read news about this shit show I'm blown away by the sheer grotesque madness of it

[Edge-]

Wasn't his precious wall meant to be "non-scalable"? Are we just going to get a repeat of that?

It's like that time Trump bragged about how nobody could climb the wall...and then immediately remembered ladders exist.

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Can he even do this? I mean what the actual fuck

Sure, why not? He can say he's the King of England on Nov. 3 if he wants. Or the Prime Minister of New Zealand.

It doesn't actually mean anything.

He can do this, and it will rile up his supporters and drive them into a frenzy if the votes don't back up his claim. But legally it won't matter. We just gotta hope that his base doesn't continue going full-ISIS and continue their campaign of domestic terrorism.

[Breccia]

Can he even do this?

In this regard, he has the same rights as any other American.

If he orders troops to go in and sieze the votes, Pennsylvania cops will start the shooting. Because that's a coup.

[Kaleredar]

In this regard, he has the same rights as any other American.

If he orders troops to go in and sieze the votes, Pennsylvania cops will start the shooting. Because that's a coup.

Hasn’t the military essentially already come out and said they won’t support any Trump shenanigans?

[Endus]

Can he even do this? I mean what the actual fuck

Every time I read news about this shit show I'm blown away by the sheer grotesque madness of it

He can say that.

It doesn't make it true, and doesn't force anyone to discard any votes. He literally does not get any official say in that, whatsoever.

[Redwyrm]

Probably barbed wire or something...

Barbed wire is a good look for the White House. [sarcasm]

Maybe Trump is trying to get a feel for what living behind barbed wire fence would feel like. Search lights, dobermans patrolling the ground, guard towers. That sort of thing.

[SirBeef]

Can he even do this? I mean what the actual fuck

Every time I read news about this shit show I'm blown away by the sheer grotesque madness of it

No he cannot. States are in control of their election laws and historically elections have not been officially called until all precincts have counted all their ballots. With the exception of Florida in 2000.

[eschatological]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27I29V

Good news on the voting case in TX, federal judge doesn't seem terribly inclined to toss the votes out apparently.

Man, I'd love to hear the legal definition of "evil" be, "They might win an election because people were allowed to vote!"

The best part is this is a super partisan judge........for TRUMP.

[Edge-]

No he cannot. States are in control of their election laws and historically elections have not been officially called until all precincts have counted all their ballots. With the exception of Florida in 2000.

Historically they're called well before that, counting all the vote can take weeks. But we don't usually need to have them all counted, and AP routinely calls the election based on projections of early votes. And I don't think they've been wrong. They may hold this prediction longer (IIRC last year they held the prediction a few hours waiting on more results) this year and we may not get it until Wednesday or later, but the "call" doesn't require a full count. The certification making if "official" does, which happens well after the election.

[xmirrors]

Trump still defending what happened in Texas....

I'm not sure how many people realize it, but Texas is actually in danger of going blue. It's currently within the margin of error and there's a very solid argument (I won't get into it here because it could be an entirely separate discussion of its own) that the margin may be in Biden's favor. I think it's absolutely despicable and should get him in some kind of trouble, but it's smart. His original "I LOVE TEXAS" tweet and any supportive tweets will bolster his idiot base there and help ensure he keeps it.

Which ends up being a win for Biden, anyway. Forcing Trump to spend his last energy and resources in TEXAS must not be a great feeling for the Trump campaign.

[PhaelixWW]

OH is a state that should be clearly going red, but it's actually only +0.4 Trump right now if we are to believe the polls. Biden going to OH, a state Trump shouldn't have to worry about, and making him worry about it, could indeed be considered political trolling imo. I'm not convinced Biden can make a case to swing it blue but still.

Where is this idea of Ohio being automatically red coming from? They've voted with the eventual winning candidate in every election since 1964. In fact, the 1960 and 1944 elections were the only time they "got it wrong" since 1896; that's a 14/14 record over the last 56 years and a 29/31 record over the last 124 years.

Ohio is essentially a permanent swing state until proven otherwise.

[xmirrors]

Where is this idea of Ohio being automatically red coming from?

Fair, but Trump won OH by 8 points in 2016. That is a pretty big advantage to lose.