Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Breccia]

Hasn’t the military essentially already come out and said they won’t support any Trump shenanigans?

I guess I was using "troops" too literally. Trump could send ICE, for example.

[Kaleredar]

I guess I was using "troops" too literally. Trump could send ICE, for example.

I’d take the US military dedicated to a peaceful transition of power over some ICE thugs trying to prop up an invalid regime.

[Edge-]

But the poll-watching army that the Trumps have tried to rally hasn’t materialized. Although there’s no official data, election officials across the country say that they have seen relatively few Republican poll watchers during early voting, and that at times Democratic poll watchers have outnumbered the GOP’s. In Colorado and Nevada, where the Trump campaign was particularly active in recruiting poll watchers, its efforts largely petered out.

Jordan Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state in Georgia, *a swing state experiencing a record voter turnout, said both county governments and political parties can supply poll watchers in Georgia. Most are showing up in Fulton County, whose seat is Atlanta.

“I am receiving reports of a few thousand poll watchers from a variety of left-leaning groups. There are very few poll watchers from right-leaning groups,” she said. “The Trump campaign is simply calling for additional poll watchers because they know there is a dearth of right-leaning poll watchers.”

Although Kentucky election law doesn’t allow for poll watchers, the parties can have registered “challengers” at the polls on Election Day whose only job is to challenge a voter’s eligibility. In Fayette County, home of Lexington, Republicans have submitted only seven names of challengers while Democrats have submitted 117. Don Blevins Jr., the clerk in the county, says he doesn’t know how many will actually show up on Tuesday.

“Only in recent years have campaigns thought about doing this, and then rarely followed through,” he said.

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...-small-platoon

Good news, apparently boredom is defeating the army of Trump "poll watchers". Apparently they ain't showing up because, unsurprisingly, standing around all day watching people wait in line to vote is pretty boring, and they can't heckle the voters while they're in line.

So they're not even bothering. Meanwhile, Democrats continue to field a pretty large crop of official poll watchers in states where they're allowed, which is good.

[Xeones]

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...-small-platoon

Good news, apparently boredom is defeating the army of Trump "poll watchers". Apparently they ain't showing up because, unsurprisingly, standing around all day watching people wait in line to vote is pretty boring, and they can't heckle the voters while they're in line.

So they're not even bothering. Meanwhile, Democrats continue to field a pretty large crop of official poll watchers in states where they're allowed, which is good.

Well yea Republicans don't have anything to watch, they are the ones doing the fishy stuff at polls attempting intimidation and disenfranchisement.

[Milchshake]

This headline banner, gives me a small hope, that the Media wont fall for Trump antics as badly as they did in 2016.

[kaelleria]

Go Vote

[Rasulis]

The New York Times and Siena College collected voting data on popular names in the United States and found Biden with a 20-point lead over President Trump among women named Karen, sitting at 60% to Trump’s 40%. Maybe time to stop giving all the Karens a bad rap.

Karens overwhelmingly side with Joe Biden in 2020: Poll

All kidding aside, we turned in out ballots by hand more than two weeks ago and received electronic confirmation from County of San Diego. I spent this week painting my front door and staining our new redwood gate. My wife was busy with fall planting.

[CastletonSnob]

Trump had a non-scalable fence built around the WH. I think he knows he's gonna lose.

[PhaelixWW]

Fair, but Trump won OH by 8 points in 2016. That is a pretty big advantage to lose.

<shrug>

A somewhat recent history of Ohio voting:

Ohio was red +11, +19, and +11 in '80-88. Then it was blue +2, +6 in '92-96, then it was red +4 in 2000. It has a history of flipping a lot, sometimes quite dramatically. Bush went from 55% to 38% of the vote from '88 to '92 (though some of that was due to Perot grabbing over 20% of the vote).



2016 also had many last-minute undecided compared to 2020, and Trump has spent the last four years proving what a shit President he is. So while I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Ohio go red in 2020, I also wouldn't be surprised to see them go blue.

[SirBeef]

Historically they're called well before that, counting all the vote can take weeks. But we don't usually need to have them all counted, and AP routinely calls the election based on projections of early votes. And I don't think they've been wrong. They may hold this prediction longer (IIRC last year they held the prediction a few hours waiting on more results) this year and we may not get it until Wednesday or later, but the "call" doesn't require a full count. The certification making if "official" does, which happens well after the election.

TV news calls them ut that is not, nor makes it official.

[D Luniz]

Why doesn’t Trump speak in his TV ads? Saw a few horrifying ads, like the one claiming Biden is racist. Trump only does the ‘and I approve this message’, while Biden actually talks in most of his ads.

I wonder what their internal polling said about Trump’s charisma...

Cause they don't sound good to anyone but the Trump faithful. When I get home I'll link you the one that plays here all the time on network tv if I can find it on YouTube.

[kaelleria]

Internal numbers -

[Milchshake]

Internal numbers -

Word is that GOP internals are very bad. Hence they've been hiding them.

Those sleepy GOP pollsters....

[Gerron]

Trump leads in Ohio by 0.4%.

I just want to say I'm so glad I took the time to drive back home to Ohio to vote for Biden.

[Breccia]

Word is that GOP internals are very bad.

They can't possibly be worse than the externals.

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I just want to say I'm so glad I took the time to drive back home to Ohio to vote for Biden.

Trump leads in Ohio by 0.399%.

[Deja Thoris]

Based on that he'd be lucky to get Texas, Florida he has every change and North Carolina he should win.

Thats my take anyway.

[Milchshake]

They can't possibly be worse than the externals.

Bad enough that Trump wants to fire Fauci publicly now...

So bad, he goes all in on the Mad Man theory.

[CastletonSnob]

Are those stats good signs for Biden?

[Zaydin]

Word is that GOP internals are very bad. Hence they've been hiding them.

Those sleepy GOP pollsters....

I would be thrilled if that were the case. If they are bad, they are sort of in a Catch-22 when it comes to releasing them. If they do release them, it confirms they are bad. If they refuse to release them, people will figure they are refusing to release them because they are bad.

[cubby]

https://twitter.com/TheNVIndy/status...05660818358272

Something a little scary just below on that same tweet:

"DoJ sending personnel to 44 jurisdictions in 18 states to 'monitor for compliance with federal voting rights laws'"

This is NOT good.