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    I don't know which is more important:

    1) The opinion put forth io this OP ED, or

    2) That it's from the Detroit News

    I am a lifelong Republican. And I am exhausted.

    Nearly all my career, I have worked for Republican candidates and conservative causes, managing campaigns, organizing coalitions and raising money. In 2010, I helped lead the Michigan Republican Party to its most successful election cycle in history. And for nearly two years, I served as U.S. Department of Education chief of staff in the Trump administration.

    But this is 2020, so of course this year is different. I cannot vote for the Republican nominee for president. For the good of the party I have supported my entire life, but more importantly, for the sake of the country I love, I implore all patriotic Republicans to join me.

    There is no need to relitigate this president’s well-known and well-documented transgressions and shortcomings. Nor am I interested in refuting my friends’ hollow attempts to justify their continued support for the president based on the rare policy victory of the day.

    The presidency is more than advancing any individual policy or political appointment; bigger than any party or individual; more important than “winning.” Its platform is the most influential and consequential on the globe. What a president says, and doesn’t say, matters.

    President Donald Trump thrives on purposely sowing strife and discord. I have seen it up close and in person. He does so at the expense of the nation’s interests, the health and prosperity of our fellow citizens, alliances forged through generations of sacrifice, and the personal safety of public servants.

    Michigan residents have become too familiar with the latter through the foiled plot to kidnap and harm our governor. Instead of a prompt and unequivocal denouncement, the president responded with a chuckle to his supporters’ “Lock her up!” chants in Muskegon, then decreed: “Lock them all up!”

    The woman in Michigan” has demonstrated more character than we have ever seen from this president. While I disagree with Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on many issues, I respect her. No governor or governor’s family should ever live in fear that a Twitter tirade from the president could encourage, exacerbate or inflame hostilities against them.

    The Republican Party has allowed Trump to mortgage its soul, devolving into nothing more than a morally bankrupt conduit to propagate the president’s politics of division and destruction.

    I ask my fellow Republicans: Is this honestly who we are? Are the Pyrrhic victories worth it?

    I strongly contend they are not. I have worked to advance education reform and school choice throughout my career. I am gravely concerned this president’s toxicity may sour a generation on those causes and many others I hold dear — causes that once united and defined the Republican Party.

    Our Founders were not perfect. But they knew for the American experiment to endure, the underpinning of our institutions of government must be more than words on paper; that government also must be led by women and men of character. In Federalist 57, James Madison wrote: “The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society…”

    Trump lacks even a modicum of the character the Founders recognized as requisite for the proper functioning of our self-governing Republic.

    So, yes, I am tired. But I am not “tired of winning,” as you claimed I would be, Mr. President. I am tired of the division, discord, chaos, vitriol and hate. I am tired of your failure and refusal to lead.

    Our party can — and must — do better. America deserves nothing less from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Let us bow down to random british banker guy. He clearly knows what's what.
    I don’t understand why it’s a surprise that foreign bankers support Trump... he owes money to a lot of them... I’m pretty sure they want the money back and it’s a better chance US will cover it through Barr’s DOJ, than Trump the civilian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Your love of Trump says otherwise.

    Trump didn't start being racist during Covid, you supported him.

    Man, this is awkward for you.

    What kind of nonsensical logic is that? This is a nation's fate at stake. The big picture we're talking about. Are you saying Felya and many others in this section are okay with Joe sniffing young girls and enjoying having kids jumping on his lap just because they voted for Joe? No, it's about the saving the nation from Trump. And I've deserted the tyrant since his fuckups. Everything is only black and white for you, something which your mental capacity is limited to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    Vote!

    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    What kind of nonsensical logic is that? This is a nation's fate at stake. The big picture we're talking about. Are you saying Felya and many others in this section are okay with Joe sniffing young girls and enjoying having kids jumping on his lap just because they voted for Joe? No, it's about the saving the nation from Trump. And I've deserted the tyrant since his fuckups. Everything is only black and white for you, something which your mental capacity is limited to.
    It's perfectly logical. You supported a racist who likes to watch underage girls getting undressed. This wasn't some secret, you gladly supported him through it all.

    He was also fucking up before Covid, as well. You supported that, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    No offense there, bud, but if a global pandemic is what it takes for you to support the candidate who isn't wildly racist and incompetent, maybe you should check your priorities...
    I agree and I do realize my folly. It is still better than being a coward like Machismo and not voting when it really matters right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Today is going to be insane. Stay safe out there.
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    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    Did my part -


    Hour long line where I live in CT. Only one magidiot in line who coincidentally was the only one not wearing a mask. Not sure if he was actually allowed inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's perfectly logical. You supported a racist who likes to watch underage girls getting undressed. This wasn't some secret, you gladly supported him through it all.

    He was also fucking up before Covid, as well. You supported that, as well.
    Lmao so going by your 5-yr-old-logic Felya and the others are bad people just because they voted for a young-girl-sniffing old man. Really childish. And yet I stood up and voted for Joe. To get rid of Dump for good. How about a coward like you ey? You fart and blow hot air about hating Trump all day and yet when it really matters you aren't even doing shit about it you hypocrite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    I agree and I do realize my folly. It is still better than being a coward like Machismo and not voting when it really matters right?
    Let's see how the next few days go, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Are you saying Felya and the others are okay with Joe boasting about kids jumping on his lap?
    Yes, I don’t see a problem with Joe boasting about kids jumping on his lap. Last Christmas I was giving kids a ride on my leg, because they thought it was fun to be tossed in the air.

    This is more revealing about you, than me or Joe Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    It is still better than being a coward like Machismo
    Name one 24-hour challenge of mine you've answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Lmao so going by your 5-yr-old-logic Felya and the others are bad people just because they voted for a young-girl-sniffing old man.
    What does that even mean? You have an issue that Biden gets close to people? I don’t understand this argument... he is good with kids and women... polls tell you the same.
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    What does that even mean? You have an issue that Biden gets close to people? I don’t understand this argument... he is good with kids and women... polls tell you the same.
    His son is even better with kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    His son is even better with kids.
    Please tell me more... His kids seem to doing pretty well...

    Justice Department asks to defend Trump in rape accuser E. Jean Carroll's defamation lawsuit
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mp/5755850002/
    The Justice Department is asking to take over President Donald Trump’s defense in a defamation lawsuit from a writer who accused him of rape, and federal lawyers asked a court Tuesday to allow a move that could put the American people on the hook for any money she might be awarded.
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
    Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yes, I don’t see a problem with Joe boasting about kids jumping on his lap. Last Christmas I was giving kids a ride on my leg, because they thought it was fun to be tossed in the air.

    This is more revealing about you, than me or Joe Biden.

    Well, I'm kind of disappointed about that tbh. But doesn't matter. We have to vote Dump out regardless. According to Machismo though, Joe Biden is a creep, and people who vote for a creep are people who support a creep and therefore creeps themselves. This is some BS logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Name one 24-hour challenge of mine you've answered.
    Who gives a fuck about your challenges?

    Roll eyes and scroll past is what people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Well, I'm kind of disappointed about that tbh. But doesn't matter. We have to vote Dump out regardless. According to Machismo though, Joe Biden is a creep, and people who vote for a creep are people who support a creep and therefore creeps themselves. This is some BS logic.
    What are you disappointed about, that even Trump realized this creepy Joe bullshit you are peddling didn’t work?
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
    Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Lmao so going by your 5-yr-old-logic Felya and the others are bad people just because they voted for a young-girl-sniffing old man. Really childish. And yet I stood up and voted for Joe. To get rid of Dump for good. How about a coward like you ey? You fart and blow hot air about hating Trump all day and yet when it really matters you aren't even doing shit about it you hypocrite.
    Are you willing to admit that Trump's racism, sexual assault, and desire to peep in on underage girls wasn't enough to stop you from supporting him?

    Hell, you created multiple accounts to shitpost for the guy. Why should anyone believe you've had a sudden change of heart?

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