Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Endus]

His recent claim in that interview then that 'no woman ever made such a complaint about me' then loses all notion of credibility.
(Did he forget his interview from a year ago already?)

That was about women who felt uncomfortable because he expressed friendliness in too physical a manner; there was never any accusation of sexual impropriety, just discomfort. Which isn't a statement that his conduct was fine, I'm just not going to engage in hyperbole to make it more than it was.

Reade's accusing Biden of a rather vicious penetrative sexual assault.

If you're going to pretend these are the same thing, you're coming at this in bad faith with an explicit desire to misinform and slander.

[Thepersona]

you seem to be conveniently ignoring the fact that if enough people vote third party that third party WINS. or is that concept too much for you to grasp?

Come on. Third parties have no hope to win in reality, not in the US.

[Grapemask]

Come on. Third parties have no hope to win in reality, not in the US.

Yeah, it simply is not possible. It's just a waste of a vote.

Consider Ross Perot, one of the most successful third party runs of all time, but definitely the most successful in the last 40 years. He got nearly 20% of the vote in 1992. He did not win a single point in the electoral college. He got almost a fifth of the vote and lost by 100%. Voting third party is just an excuse to not participate in the election while pretending that you are.

[Felya]

Yeah, it simply is not possible. It's just a waste of a vote.

Consider Ross Perot, one of the most successful third party runs of all time, but definitely the most successful in the last 40 years. He got nearly 20% of the vote in 1992. He did not win a single point in the electoral college. He got almost a fifth of the vote and lost by 100%. Voting third party is just an excuse to not participate in the election while pretending that you are.

To further that, in 1996, the results of 1992 meant that Parot was on every state ballot. I believe he pulled 8% or so... but, he was an afterthought in the actual battle between Dole and Clinton.

[cubby]

That was about women who felt uncomfortable because he expressed friendliness in too physical a manner; there was never any accusation of sexual impropriety, just discomfort. Which isn't a statement that his conduct was fine, I'm just not going to engage in hyperbole to make it more than it was.

Reade's accusing Biden of a rather vicious penetrative sexual assault.

If you're going to pretend these are the same thing, you're coming at this in bad faith with an explicit desire to misinform and slander.

It's interesting that the Trumpkins have only that tact at this point - that a hug "a touch too long" is now apparently sexual assault.

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Yeah, it simply is not possible. It's just a waste of a vote.

Consider Ross Perot, one of the most successful third party runs of all time, but definitely the most successful in the last 40 years. He got nearly 20% of the vote in 1992. He did not win a single point in the electoral college. He got almost a fifth of the vote and lost by 100%. Voting third party is just an excuse to not participate in the election while pretending that you are.

Exactly. 3rd party candidates only help the opposing party's affiliation - Perot helped Clinton, to a certain extent, etc.

And the Electoral College, that horror show of an election system, makes it that much harder.

[Milchshake]

He is a Theo follower... simply misguided. Not saying we can help, unless we start appearing in alt right youtube...

You're being too generous. Connal used to play the same stupid game. Pretend to be woke for like 30 pages. Then at the end he would be "Gotcha! I was conservative all along".

It's just privileged suburban kids playing games. Warriors for the Status Quo.

The status quo of the past 28 Days has been a national nightmare. Trump squandered all of April, like he mispent March.

These posters are material in support of this.

[Felya]

That was about women who felt uncomfortable because he expressed friendliness in too physical a manner; there was never any accusation of sexual impropriety, just discomfort. Which isn't a statement that his conduct was fine, I'm just not going to engage in hyperbole to make it more than it was.

Reade's accusing Biden of a rather vicious penetrative sexual assault.

If you're going to pretend these are the same thing, you're coming at this in bad faith with an explicit desire to misinform and slander.

It also defies what those women said. According to NYT, they contacted women who said Biden was encroaching too much, to ask them if their altercation could be described as assault. They said no... all of them...

[Felya]

I saw #IBelieveBiden, and it was every bit of vacuous and based on nothing more than completely ignoring what has been alleged. Then again you see the same thing here with people lying about what was said, what has been reported, and completely ignore the fact Tara story has more evidence then Ford. l remember how much MSM and other on here were falling all over themselves about the evils of Kavanaugh. People who remained skeptical were called rape apologist, but now that it's on your team so many here hold judgement. The double standard on both sides holds as true today as it did when I first realized it about 30 years ago.

A decent chance more women could come out as they feel embolden by Tara's story.

If Tara had the evidence you claim, you’d be able to judge that evidence, based in their merit... not trying to associate them with a case, that had an under oath hearing. You are not using said evidence, but are trying to piggy back on someone else.

[Felya]

A decent chance more women could come out as they feel embolden by Tara's story.

Can you show me any evidence of no disclosures against Biden? Anything to show you are not full of shit?

[Felya]

The version where Biden pinned her against a wall and penetrated her. He is a man that is incapable of keeping his hands to himself, and I don't put it beyond someone who takes every opportunity to place his hands all over women and children.

Not a single other person has ever accused him of assault... not a single shred of evidence that any women are being kept quite via no disclosures.

[Felya]

Na, I'm good. This isn't a court of law, and I'm not a paper of record.

Sure, but being dishonest, when demanding others trust someone, is hurting their case more than helping. If you claim that Biden’s encroachment is assault and I link you women he encroached saying isn’t... are they attacking Reade? Because NYT asked... and they said no... the neighbor of Reade that is backing her story, is saying she will vote Biden, because there is no other choice. Is she attacking Reade? Maybe you are just exploiting a woman that was sexually assaulted, for internet points?

[Blade Wolf]

Na, I'm good. This isn't a court of law, and I'm not a paper of record.

Here some light reading for you.

I'm seeing plenty of parallels between the Biden accusations and the Kavanough accusations except now it's the complete reverse with the exception that Reade actually has more credibility and has been corroborated by more people.

[Felya]

Na, I'm good. This isn't a court of law, and I'm not a paper of record.

Is this a joke?

From your link:

Common myths about rape and sexual assault also undermine jurors’ ability to objectively assess the facts when such cases come to court.

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Why is Biden and his campaign using The New York Times as proof it didn't happen? They did not absolve anyone or even suggest it.

They are using facts found by NYT... who spoke to Reade’s anonymous friend confirming the story? What paper?

[Vantrinth]

Come on. Third parties have no hope to win in reality, not in the US.

You are aware the Republican party was once a third party?

There are actually numerous successful parties in US history, they don't always win the presidency but they can exert considerable influence over other wings of government and the main parties agenda.

[Machismo]

Why is Biden and his campaign using The New York Times as proof it didn't happen? They did not absolve anyone or even suggest it.

Seems like something a guilty person would do. All while everyone ignores the people who have corroborated that Tara told them about it years ago and that they remember.


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...mpaign-defense

Well, he flat-out denied it this morning.

[Felya]

I'm seeing plenty of parallels between the Biden accusations and the Kavanough accusations except now it's the complete reverse with the exception that Reade actually has more credibility and has been corroborated by more people.

How exactly does someone who speaks under oath, have more credibility than someone who hasn’t? Reade just 2 years ago, was saying that Biden is trustworthy. There is nothing like that with Kavanaugh, who even had references to what Forde described in his year book.

[Machismo]

You are aware the Republican party was once a third party?

Yep, and what happened to that other party? It went away almost immediately, and there were only two main parties.

[Felya]

You are aware the Republican party was once a third party?

Republicans are the result of Whigs creating a new party. Third parties are not that... If Bernie leaves DNC with majority of its members or if Trump takes the majority, to form a new party... you might have a point. But, at the time... I think your preference for third party would have been the “Know Nothing” Party... American history joke there for you.

[Vantrinth]

The status quo of the past 28 Days has been a national nightmare. Trump squandered all of April, like he mispent March.

I'm not sure what you think Biden would have done that Trump wouldn't. Without nationalized healthcare it is the responsibility of the states.

[Grimbold21]

Na, I'm good. This isn't a court of law, and I'm not a paper of record.

Here some light reading for you.

No, you're in the worse kind of court: that of public opinion.