1. #23801
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I'm not implying it. I am saying it.

    This was supposed to be a slam dunk, a landslide, a clear victory.

    We've been told for months how suburban voter will swing everything from Georgia to maybe Texas. How Biden is so much more electable than Sanders or Clinton. How just winding back the clock to 2015 is what will carry the day! Etc.

    Well...here we are, in the verge of a 2nd Trump term.
    Maybe Dems just aren't that popular, be it the centrist or leftist kind. /shrug

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    The polling industry might be finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoirFaire View Post
    If you’re just scanning the AP tallies and see these 100k+ margins in trumps favor, without the context of mail in or other ballots, then it’s pretty easy to get spooked.
    Thanks, you're calming me down even though that explanation wasn't meant for me.
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  4. #23804
    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    How are people flipping out about the results when the rust belt is at like 20% reported. Did anyone really think Georgia and Texas were going blue? comeonnow.jpg
    Still hopeful for GA but lost all hope with texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    How are people flipping out about the results when the rust belt is at like 20% reported. Did anyone really think Georgia and Texas were going blue? comeonnow.jpg
    That coupled with the rust belt being red right now. People keep forgetting WI, MI, PA are the slowest to tally mail in votes and this year mail in votes are skewing crazy heavy to Dems. Not saying that 100% Biden will win, or lose, but it is a little disheartening that it isn’t going to be the beat down the country needed to start to cleanse itself.
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    Love my state. We just need to close borders for possibly the next 4 years. Start our own twitter, social media, tv, etc. block out everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that's why China can do pretty much all it wants... Trump is so scary... The problem is that America is losing the battle against China. China will be the world's superpower. The only way to resist somehow is if USA gathers all its allies to stand against China. I'm not talking about war, here. Just resist. But Trump treats all his allies like dirt...
    Except Biden won't fight China at all. So no one wants him. With Trump, it can go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    And with literally 0% of the votes in for California, Politico is calling it Biden. Got a quick laugh.
    The odds of Trump winning California are about the same as that of a Black Hole spontaneously manifesting itself over the Hollywood sign.

    Could it happen? Yes.

    The odds of it occurring are nonexistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    the general trend was the opposite, white men going more gop, more diverse going to dems, but it turns out its the opposite, hopefully trump embraces his new supporters and stops placating people like stephen miller...
    Nah. I can tell you that there's been a growing divide between younger black voters and the DNC. Now that doesn't mean those voters went red like Trump wants to say, but it means they've become more and more disillusioned with the party. Republicans do a good job of playing on colorism and ethnocentrism among Hispanics - see wheres immovable communities full of Republican Hispanics in FL and the Southwest.

  10. #23810
    Everyone slamming pollsters are going based on? So many polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin haven't come in. Virginia is missing Fairfax. Just chill out and put the breaks on the doom mongering. Sure, we can discuss the repercussions of a Biden loss, but it's not done yet.

  11. #23811
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    Politico reporting 209 for Biden, 119 for Trump.
    I should wonder if Trump will get much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that's why China can do pretty much all it wants... Trump is so scary... The problem is that America is losing the battle against China. China will be the world's superpower. The only way to resist somehow is if USA gathers all its allies to stand against China. I'm not talking about war, here. Just resist. But Trump treats all his allies like dirt...
    Except Biden won't fight China at all. So no one wants him. With Trump, it can go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    I should wonder if Trump will get much more.
    They haven't even counted FL/GA/TX yet. His number will definitely go up.

  14. #23814
    Wisconsin and Michigan will tell us the fate of the world...
    Biden is going to win AZ.
    Biden is going to win NE-2.

    If Biden wins Wisconsin and Michigan we don't even need PA.

    Biden is up 5-10 with white voters and suburban voters.

    We shall see what happens.


    Also, fuck Florida and fuck Cubans.
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  15. #23815
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Trump has a 400,000 plus lead right now.

    There are 2.6 million mailed votes but I assume some have already been counted.

    If, say, 3/4ths of them have already been counted, Biden would need a ridiculously high percent of what's left to take Pennsylvania.
    Umm I thought very few had been counted?

    Since the republicans had prevented votes being pre-screened (removed from envelopes and flattened) and that's why its going to take until Friday to count them all.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Still hopeful for GA but lost all hope with texas.
    There are 1.2 million mailed ballots in GA and they started counting 4 hours ago.

    Biden would have to win two-thirds of them to remove Trump's gap. I don't see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Umm I thought very few had been counted?
    I was mistaken.

  17. #23817
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Maybe Dems just aren't that popular, be it the centrist or leftist kind. /shrug
    Well, we have no way of telling because Dems keep insisting on losing by running centrists. That's the pickle here. The centrist shtick didn't work in 2016 and it's still not working.

    I understand that they keep wanting to recreate the magic of Bill Clinton and Obama, but that is clearly not working anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sama-81 View Post
    There you are quite right. Luckily, it matters very little whether you or anybody else believes me or not, because im obviously not outing myself. Could ofc show a picture or two if it came down to that, or hold a "lecture", but this is ultimately a gaming forum, isn't it...not exactly like I care what people here think, or anyone here cares if I'm telling the truth or not either. Anyways, this election is turning fun, isn't it, so better get back to it.
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  19. #23819
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Trump has a 400,000 plus lead right now.

    There are 2.6 million mailed votes but I assume some have already been counted.

    If, say, 3/4ths of them have already been counted, Biden would need a ridiculously high percent of what's left to take Pennsylvania.
    they're at like 10% maybe of mail in ballots counted so far by the sound of it. they're actually behind what they were expecting to be at by like 25k.

  20. #23820
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    So the shy trump voter does exist in fact.
    There was a german movie a few years back, based on a novel, called 'Guess who's back!'. It 'stars' Adolf Hitler, waking up in mid 2010 Berlin. Everybody thinks he's an actor, a comedian, whatever, only the reader/the audience knows it is actually him. The movie went further than the book, recording real reactions of people to someone who pretended to actually be Adolf Hitler, uniform and all. One prominent part had them interviewing members of the NPD, Germany's far-right wing party. A party official said, after asking for the cam to be turned off, 'You know, if you were the real one, I'd follow you.'

    These people are cowards in public. If they think they are observed, they tuck their tail in between their legs and run. You have to get them comfortable to show their true colors. Voting anonymously is one thing, being asked by someone, a stranger, is a completely different beast.

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