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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    I think they already said that they won't announce any more mailing votes today. With nearly 2 million left or so.
    THey did, yes, I missed that.

    But Trump has a pretty substantial lead. It needs to go 60/40 Biden/Trump to bridge it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    You have to question the relevance of your party when youre so fucking close to losing to Donald Trump AGAIN, a man who has literally killed 240k people with his negligence in a pandemic so far.
    Maybe it's true and it really does only kill Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    You have to question the relevance of your party when youre so fucking close to losing to Donald Trump AGAIN, a man who has literally killed 240k people with his negligence in a pandemic so far.
    The problem therein lies where there is such a HUGE swathe of voters that are single issue based, and those single issues are all regressive as fuck.

    Think about this, Obama won two terms whilst skirting a very shaky same sex marriage policy and not talking about guns at all. And so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Sara Gideon isn't doing specifically well right now. She's pretty far behind. Collins is too old school to be swept aside.
    Yeah, wow, just checked that. Didn't expect that to be so one sided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Well, we have no way of telling because Dems keep insisting on losing by running centrists. That's the pickle here. The centrist shtick didn't work in 2016 and it's still not working.

    I understand that they keep wanting to recreate the magic of Bill Clinton and Obama, but that is clearly not working anymore.
    Cubans aren't leftists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    THey did, yes, I missed that.

    But Trump has a pretty substantial lead. It needs to go 60/40 Biden/Trump to bridge it.
    What, in Pennsylvania? They haven't counted the counties that hold Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. Lots to go.

    It's exactly what people predicted for election night.
    Last edited by DingDongKing; 2020-11-04 at 04:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    But where are the mail in ballots coming from? almost all the outstanding vote is Atlanta area.
    That might not be enough. Trump's ahead by 240,000 and the total number of uncounted votes on my map is listed at 1.7 million. If all of those missing votes are absentee or mailed ballots, Biden needs 57% of them to bridge the gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    FOX called AZ for Biden that's a decent blow to Trump.
    Some decent news finally, at least. I just pray everything else is the red mirage we were warned about.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    What, in Pennsylvania? They haven't counted the counties that hold Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. Lots to go.
    Right, I'm running numbers on the current counted voted vs. predicted number of votes left, and that number keeps changing because I keep looking in the wrong spot.

    It's a pretty basic math problem, but like all math problems, if you start with garbage you end with garbage.

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    This is really going to be 2016 pt 2 now. Not necessarily the outcome but down to the same states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That might not be enough. Trump's ahead by 240,000 and the total number of uncounted votes on my map is listed at 1.7 million. If all of those missing votes are absentee or mailed ballots, Biden needs 57% of them to bridge the gap.
    Might not be, But i still have hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Hillary suffered 5 faithless electors in 2016. If Biden reached 270 after the election, just 1 faithless elector costs him the white house. Trump had zero faithless electors in 2016.
    Can't have faithless electors anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That might not be enough. Trump's ahead by 240,000 and the total number of uncounted votes on my map is listed at 1.7 million. If all of those missing votes are absentee or mailed ballots, Biden needs 57% of them to bridge the gap.
    I bet Biden has close to 70% of the absentee/mailed vote in PA.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    FOX called AZ for Biden that's a decent blow to Trump.
    Some good news. Finally.
    I think i'm gonna hit the sack
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    You have to question the relevance of your party when youre so fucking close to losing to Donald Trump AGAIN, a man who has literally killed 240k people with his negligence in a pandemic so far.
    Democrats didn't make anyone vote for Trump. That rests entirely on the shoulders of his own voters. They're the ones to blame for his level of support, not Democrats.

    Your position on this is bullshit.


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    Biden is looking good in Eday Wisconsin votes. Much smaller Trump margins than 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I know @cubby is going to come here and scream at me again, but if the primary numbers were indicative of voting, then why the fuck was Harris the VP nom and not Sanders or Pete or Warren, who all had more delegates than Harris who had none?
    Probably to get the female and black vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I'm not implying it. I am saying it.

    This was supposed to be a slam dunk, a landslide, a clear victory.

    We've been told for months how suburban voter will swing everything from Georgia to maybe Texas. How Biden is so much more electable than Sanders or Clinton. How just winding back the clock to 2015 is what will carry the day! Etc.

    Well...here we are, in the verge of a 2nd Trump term.
    Do you think there's significant amounts of leftists sitting out this election? Like, turnout is up (on both sides) and I'm not sure you can argue Dems didn't "get out the vote."

    Or is your contention that a more progressive candidate would somehow siphon more Independents and Republicans, and those suburban moms? Like, Biden overperformed in almost all of Florida, but underperformed by 9% in Miami-Dade, where all indications is that Cubanos and Venezuelan Americans voted against Biden because they believed the farcical attacks of "socialist" leveled at JOE FUCKING BIDEN of all people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    So the shy trump voter does exist in fact.
    I don’t keep up much with polling methods, but do they report along the lines of “60% say Biden, 40% say trump” or “30% say Biden, 20% say trump, and 50% hung up on us”? I know they want to be accurate, but do they quantify the unknown or just leave it be? Not asking you specifically but it seems there could be wild fluctuations on polling in these gaps, moreso now when it seems like it would be harder to get everyone’s number.

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    Will Joe win the popular vote and lose the elections? all votes should be worth the same!

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