1. #24521
    Quote Originally Posted by starlord View Post
    word on the street is trump may be benefitting from newly registered voters, which likely would fly under polling radar.
    Pollsters switched their methodology from polling likely voters to polling the general public to adjust for that bias.

    Trafalgar stood out by also adjusting for people straight up lying to pollsters. Something only they have done and were derided for.

    Trafalgar is a massively right leaning group, more than Rasmussen, but their methodology seems to check out when applied.

  2. #24522
    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Pretty much.

    If Trump wins, then Democrats never got a chance, whoever was the candidate.
    Yeah I'm sure all those blacks and latinos that voted for Trump would have done so even if the alternative hadn't been a segregationist with a history of white supremacy.

    You people never learn.

  3. #24523
    Quote Originally Posted by thilicen View Post
    With the remaining voting county that surely looks like a flip?
    from what im watching it just flipped. see if it holds.

  4. #24524
    Quote Originally Posted by thilicen View Post
    With the remaining voting county that surely looks like a flip?
    It turned blue now. Biden gets that and secures Nevada he'll just need one more state(except NC) and he wins.

  5. #24525
    Quote Originally Posted by starlord View Post
    from what im watching it just flipped. see if it holds.
    Wi has Biden leading with 99% of the vote in. I'm almost sure that it will flip
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  6. #24526
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yeah I'm sure all those blacks and latinos that voted for Trump would have done so even if the alternative hadn't been a segregationist with a history of white supremacy.

    You people never learn.
    i'm sure that parading a socialist in front of people who fled for their lives from socialist regimes had nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    Why hasn't he said it? He said flat out that he will declare victory even if the results are contested. Why can't Trump do the same then? You're completely biased and it's hilarious.
    Biden? Unless you can link a clip of this, I am going to assume this is being said in bad faith. I have never heard Biden say that he would outright reject the results of the election. Contesting the results is normal and happens regularly.

    Again, there's a difference between contesting the results, which is what Biden will likely do in the case he loses, and taking actions with the intent of casting doubt upon the results of an election as well as actively taking actions to manipulate the election results (i.e.: attempting to get the Supreme Court to stop the counting of ballots), both of which are things Trump has done and is doing.

    It's also very strange that you're saying that you're conflating simply not conceding and contesting the results with vote manipulation. Saying these things a disparate and are not the same level of issue is not biased, it's the truth; however, sometimes when people have certain political leanings the truth can seem biased, so I don't judge too harshly.
    Sylvanas didn't even win the popular vote, she was elected by an indirect election of representatives. #NotMyWarchief

  8. #24528
    Wisconsin! And Michigan is tightening as well.

  9. #24529
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowlithic View Post
    If the shoe was on the other foot you wouldn't even be saying this.
    He wouldn't say that because the other foot isn't ignoring reality, isn't made up maniacs or loons who are apocalypse booners thinking of the Rapture.

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    Wisconsin will go to Biden.

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    Wisconsin is looking good
    RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE

  12. #24532
    And Biden is now leading in Wisconsin. And there is still votes missing in Milwaukee.

  13. #24533
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowlithic View Post
    And for good reason... It's just funny especially with the democrats that post on this site. Seems like a lot of you don't know what it's like to really struggle.
    Yeah you can smell the privilege by the sheer amount of time they waste on here. They, like the corporate democrats, were extremely hostile to the very existence of the working poor.

    This could easily have been avoided with just one or two genuine policies that would mobilize the core vote, but it wasn't enough for the corporate democrats to win the nomination, they seem absolutely determined to rub the progressives face in it.

  14. #24534
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yeah I'm sure all those blacks and latinos that voted for Trump would have done so even if the alternative hadn't been a segregationist with a history of white supremacy.

    You people never learn.
    The same Latinos who fled Communist nations?

    If Trump wins (and he got a bigger turnout this time), then the Democrats never got a real chance.

  15. #24535
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yeah I'm sure all those blacks and latinos that voted for Trump would have done so even if the alternative hadn't been a segregationist with a history of white supremacy.

    You people never learn.
    Well, black people handed Biden a massive super tuesday win, securing his lead over Bernie. Make of that what you will.

  16. #24536
    Quote Originally Posted by Lame Pala View Post
    Yeah I'm sure all those blacks and latinos that voted for Trump would have done so even if the alternative hadn't been a segregationist with a history of white supremacy.

    You people never learn.
    You are saying that Biden has a history of white supremacy, ignoring the literal fucking white supremacist in the white house right now, besides Trump. Stephen Miller, is literally a white nationalist, posting on white nationalist forums.

  17. #24537
    Looks like wisconsin might end up going to biden on election night. Did not expect that. I am surprised a bit by the margin in PA (also, bullock losing montana and collins having that big of a spread in ME).
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  18. #24538
    Quote Originally Posted by starlord View Post
    i'm sure that parading a socialist in front of people who fled for their lives from socialist regimes had nothing to do with it.
    Are we now pretending this was down to Florida? Cuz it never was. If your winning strategy as a Democrat relies on Florida you might as well concede before you start campaigning.

  19. #24539
    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    The same Latinos who fled Communist nations?

    If Trump wins (and he got a bigger turnout this time), then the Democrats never got a real chance.
    Yeah this. Some latino groups are very anti communists.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  20. #24540
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Are we now pretending this was down to Florida? Cuz it never was. If your winning strategy as a Democrat relies on Florida you might as well concede before you start campaigning.
    as if florida isnt a swing state? in any case bidens supposed "history of racism" isnt what drove people away there.

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