Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Thepersona]

I'll never understand why the US runs with this system over "literally the one with the most votes wins".

Slavery. That's literally it. Or to be more precise, its a legacy from slaveowners

[Mehrunes]

I'll never understand why the US runs with this system over "literally the one with the most votes wins".

They wouldn't be special otherwise.

[Ursus]

"President Donald Trump's demand for vote counting to stop in an election that is still undecided may have been his most extreme and dangerous assault on the institutions of democracy yet," writes CNN's

Like any authoritarian dictator, Trump wants to call the election now without all the votes begin counted.

In the span of about 10 seconds, he went from saying that Arizona needs to continue counting the votes (where he is currently behind) to saying that the counting needs to stop in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and North Carolina (where he was leading at the time).

The cognitive dissonance and blatant hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous.

[thilicen]

In the span of about 10 seconds, he went from saying that Arizona needs to continue counting the votes (where he is currently behind) to saying that the counting needs to stop in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and North Carolina (where he was leading at the time).

The cognitive dissonance and blatant hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous.

In the same speech he also called the election rigged, a fraud, then proceeded to explain how he was going to try and rig the election.

[postman1782]

broke : biden wins popular vote and loses electoral college
woke: biden wins electoral college and popular vote, faithless electors on december 8th give the election to DJT anyways

given the map will look like this

Again, Faithless electors are not a thing anymore. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...toral-n1231394

[Belize]

I'll never understand why the US runs with this system over "literally the one with the most votes wins".

We're a little bass ackwards like that.

The history lesson on why is a little long, but it stems from the post-Am Revolution where a group of Founders wanted to keep some slivers of the nobility they had under Britain, and the EC was the compromise they came up with.

[Fahrenheit]

It's looking increasingly like it may be pretty much over except the shouting, map currently looks like this at a minimum



Dem best case scenario looks like this, which isn't that unfeasible

[Kaleredar]

I'll never understand why the US runs with this system over "literally the one with the most votes wins".

Because the republicans retain a roughly 50% share of political power and know it’s their only path to reelection, so they won’t let it change.

[JustinJgh]

Because we have a political party that doesn't have the majority of voters because they can't run on policy and only deception.

They have taken over all the smooth brains of the country.

Lucky for them it just so happens that smooth brains are blindly loyal and literally live for Jesus, guns, and voting.

[JohnBrown1917]

We're a little bass ackwards like that.

The history lesson on why is a little long, but it stems from the post-Am Revolution where a group of Founders wanted to keep some slivers of the nobility they had under Britain, and the EC was the compromise they came up with.

I have a feeling its only kept in place becease it favours the Gop by a ton and the media can hold longer specials and make money of it.

[Belize]

I have a feeling its only kept in place becease it favours the Gop by a ton and the media can hold longer specials and make money of it.

I mean, yeah nowadays it is, but it's super interesting that you can actually trace the roots of the GOP all the way back to Crown Loyalists in the AmRev that essentially ended up pouting their way into accepting the U.S. was it's own country. I wish I could find the documentary on it I watch a few years back.

[Skulltaker]

Why is everyone so sure that Biden will win Nevada, btw? Only 'blue' counties left? The margin is extremely slim there.

[Thepersona]

Why is everyone so sure that Biden will win Nevada, btw? Only 'blue' counties left? The margin is extremely slim there.

The only county left with real numbers is one that went for clinton massively

[kaelleria]

My new map.



NC probably ends up Red but its going to be very close.

[Skulltaker]

The only county left with real numbers is one that went for clinton massively

Thanks you!

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My new map.

I'm assuming brown is to close to call? What would happen if that were the case, and the state in question would decide who wins? Hypothetically speaking?

[postman1782]

My new map.



NC probably ends up Red but its going to be very close.

You know what would be funny? Is if this is the exact election result, Trump called this a landslide in 2016, because it was the same number I believe. Can Democrats also claim a landslide still then?

[Paranoid Android]

broke : biden wins popular vote and loses electoral college
woke: biden wins electoral college and popular vote, faithless electors on december 8th give the election to DJT anyways

given the map will look like this

Likely.

Now most want a win. Just win. Also our winner-take-all electoral map looks worse than what it is. But still!!!! I want a while but will be so disheartened looking back if this is how it ends.

[Fahrenheit]

You know what would be funny? Is if this is the exact election result, Trump called this a landslide in 2016, because it was the same number I believe. Can Democrats also claim a landslide still then?

No, If Biden wins the exact same number of EC votes as Trump did in 2016, he 100% won't claim it to be a landslide, because it's not. Biden isn't a bloviating tool.

[Thekri]

I'm assuming brown is to close to call? What would happen if that were the case, and the state in question would decide who wins? Hypothetically speaking?

"To close to call" is media speak, not anything official in the election process. North Carolina will count every single vote, and then their Secretary of State will certify whatever number they come up with. Whoever has more votes wins.

Two things complicate that, one is recounts (Where they just count all the votes again), and the other is legal challenges to a certain subset of ballots. Both are almost guaranteed in most or all of these states. Wisconsin is well within the limits of a recount if either side requests it (They will), and both sides have teams of lawyers working to identify any ballot groups that they can legally challenge.

[Ragnarohk]

My new map.



NC probably ends up Red but its going to be very close.

Mmm when was this map created. It doean't seem compatible with what I found in Google