Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[postman1782]

No, If Biden wins the exact same number of EC votes as Trump did in 2016, he 100% won't claim it to be a landslide, because it's not. Biden isn't a bloviating tool.

But to the Trump supporters for the last 4 years, it was a landslide, I know Biden won't claim it, but the Trump supporters will be like, nope it isn't a landslide to them, even though he got the same EC votes as Trump in 2016.

[Fahrenheit]

Mmm when was this map created. It doean't seem compatible with what I found in Google

Go to 270towin.com and you can create your own.

[postman1782]

Mmm when was this map created. It doean't seem compatible with what I found in Google

It is a personal opinion map. Not a current outlook map.

[Skulltaker]

"To close to call" is media speak, not anything official in the election process. North Carolina will count every single vote, and then their Secretary of State will certify whatever number they come up with. Whoever has more votes wins.

Two things complicate that, one is recounts (Where they just count all the votes again), and the other is legal challenges to a certain subset of ballots. Both are almost guaranteed in most or all of these states. Wisconsin is well within the limits of a recount if either side requests it (They will), and both sides have teams of lawyers working to identify any ballot groups that they can legally challenge.

Thanks for the clarification!

[starlord]

But to the Trump supporters for the last 4 years, it was a landslide, I know Biden won't claim it, but the Trump supporters will be like, nope it isn't a landslide to them, even though he got the same EC votes as Trump in 2016.

unseating an incumbent is a pretty big deal tho.

[Fahrenheit]

But to the Trump supporters for the last 4 years, it was a landslide, I know Biden won't claim it, but the Trump supporters will be like, nope it isn't a landslide to them, even though he got the same EC votes as Trump in 2016.

Hypocrisy doesn't work on them. Prior to COVID-19, Trump had "the best economy, maybe in the entire history of the US" to them, whereas in reality is was essentially the same as Obama's last few years. Shit, look at the economy during Clinton's second term, that shit was fucking wild, that wasn't even that long ago.

[Dezerte]

Yikes. It's depressing, disappointing and embarrassing that Trump is getting this many votes. Even if Biden wins, I hope you can manage to get all these Trump supporters to come to their senses and unite the country.

[xenogear3]

I'll never understand why the US runs with this system over "literally the one with the most votes wins".

It actually makes sense.
First, it was difficult to count, 200 years ago.
Second, if use popular votes, the big cities and union control the election. No one cares about farmers, et.

[kaelleria]

Go to 270towin.com and you can create your own.

Its the most likely map. PA miv are coming in very very blue. Like 8:1

[JustinJgh]

It actually makes sense.
First, it was difficult to count, 200 years ago.
Second, if use popular votes, the big cities and union control the election. No one cares about farmers, et.

Stupid argument. People who care about food care about farmers.

Farmers love socialism btw.

[Canpinter]

It actually makes sense.
First, it was difficult to count, 200 years ago.
Second, if use popular votes, the big cities and union control the election. No one cares about farmers, et.

why should we care about farmers? they are not some special class of citizen that deserves dispositional political power.

[postman1782]

It actually makes sense.
First, it was difficult to count, 200 years ago.
Second, if use popular votes, the big cities and union control the election. No one cares about farmers, et.

That would mean that Republicans would actually have to make better policies to actually appeal to city people. Or Dems would have to try to appeal to farmers, even though their policies are better for farmers than Republicans do.

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Stupid argument. People who care about food care about farmers.

Farmers love socialism btw.

That is the only reason that farmers aren't going bankrupt right now, is because of socialism.

[Fahrenheit]

Its the most likely map. PA miv are coming in very very blue. Like 8:1

Still not 100% convinced PA will flip, but, frankly, it doesn't need to, given what's happened in WI and MI. Shit's just about over. Biden can run up the score a little bit with picking off GA and PA though.

[Grimbold21]

Hey, what's up? Us Europeans were hoping to take a break from all the islamophobia with some American civil strife, and you ain't delivering.

[starlord]

why should we care about farmers? they are not some special class of citizen that deserves dispositional political power.

not to mention most of the farm money goes to big corporate farms, not mom & pop run operations.

[downnola]

Still not 100% convinced PA will flip, but, frankly, it doesn't need to, given what's happened in WI and MI. Shit's just about over. Biden can run up the score with picking off GA and PA though.

Georgia doesn't seem likely to me but I also thought PA would go to Biden so what the hell do I know

[nonameelf]

Hey, what's up? Us Europeans were hoping to take a break from all the islamophobia with some American civil strife, and you ain't delivering.

Don't worry, it's probably brewing. Especially if it ends up being 270 to 268 in favor of Biden.

[Belize]

While Biden currently has a clear path - if a little buttclenchingly close- it's disappointing to see the holdouts. The underlying issues in America will take a long time to fix.

[kukkamies]

I mean, yeah nowadays it is, but it's super interesting that you can actually trace the roots of the GOP all the way back to Crown Loyalists in the AmRev that essentially ended up pouting their way into accepting the U.S. was it's own country. I wish I could find the documentary on it I watch a few years back.

Sounds like something Democrats made. Both parties make lots and lots of paid propaganda.
Like how Democrats used to be the party majorly for slavery, but does anyone think of that when voting for them now? They had all kinds of people in charge during the years. GOP also had all kinds of people in charge. Didn't both parties even turn around in 1950s or 1960s? Republics from left to right and democrats from right to left.

[Belize]

Georgia doesn't seem likely to me but I also thought PA would go to Biden so what the hell do I know

NYT election needles have been fairly accurate over the years, and the only votes left in GA are overwhelmingly blue.