Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Zaktar]

defeatism at it's finest. of course nothing's possible if you give up before you even try.

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it's not possible as long as you keep telling yourselves that. it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

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the only childish mental state is using the same black and white logic your using to try and define a situation.

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i vote for whoever aligns best with my values. or no one at all.

What does trying in this case mean? Is just voting for a 3rd party candidate really trying? In your world view, is it likely that enough people in the country will simultaneously, extemporaneously choose to vote for the same 3rd party candidate? If someone were viable in this election, we would know that by now. We know right now that they are not. It's possible that that will change in the future, but at the moment our choices are clear.

Maybe the consequences of Trump as president don't impact you much, maybe you don't know anyone who died of or is at risk from covid, or know immigrants whose status has been impacted, or participate in the economy which is unraveling. Maybe you're insulated from all of it, but if these things actually matter to you, what matters to you more? The consequences of your choices, or adhering to an abstract ethical system. The consequences are not abstract, if you value change and progressiveness, there is a clear choice which will move a progressive agenda forward. Perhaps not as far forward as either of us would like, but it beats the other direction all to hell.

You say later that you value the economy - it is in the process of being harmed because of the incumbent in this election. If he's allowed to continue, it will be further harmed largely due to his noxious combination of supreme arrogance and supreme ignorance. Neither choice is ideal but they are not equivalent - if they look equivalent you are either extremely uninformed or extremely fortunate. We don't get to make ideal choices.

[fwc577]

I'm almost certain this clown is Roach...sorry, Rochana. Any other guesses?

You're entirely correct btw - that's all these people have is bad-faith posts. Their goal is misinformation, disruption, and the reelection of their Dear Leader.

The Russian Agent finally got banned? Thank god.

[Felya]

Biden is a lot more conservative than Both Obama and Clinton, so you should try to keep on topic.

Define a lot... because if you are trying to stop conservatives, you are going to have to work a lot harder. I don’t see anything in Biden, that would preclude me from voting for him, as a means from going to extreme right of Trump’s term... where he doesn’t care about reelection. Just saying a lot, is not enough.

[fwc577]

Hopefully, until more details come out.



You have a link? I have not seen that.



Stop... too far... don’t make this an attack on her.

https://mobile.twitter.com/marykbruc...97317235027968

She now has changed her wording to that she "complained" to them. Not that she filed a complaint.


As for being an attack on her. Now, it's not an attack on her. We have laws in place. She can be served with a civil restraining order and if she violates that civil restraining order by making these outlandish claims, she can go to jail.

This has nothing to do with singling her out. It has to do with the truth and her continued harassment.

[Felya]

https://mobile.twitter.com/marykbruc...97317235027968

She now has changed her wording to that she "complained" to them. Not that she filed a complaint.

It’s worse than that... the complaint she did make verbally, wasn’t that he assaulted her. It was that he made her feel uncomfortable.

[bmjclark]

Now that Biden says to pull out the official records so the public can view her complaint, she's now saying she never actually made an official complaint despite in the past saying she made an official complaint?

Do you have a source for that? I havent been able to find anything about her changing that part of her story.

[fwc577]

Do you have a source for that? I havent been able to find anything about her changing that part of her story.

https://mobile.twitter.com/marykbruc...97317235027968

She now has changed her wording to that she "complained" to them. Not that she filed a complaint.


This is in direct contradiction to previous reports that she filed a complaint, such as this report: https://www.foxnews.com/media/tara-r...den-staff-lied

[Zaktar]

It’s worse than that... the complaint she did make verbally, wasn’t that he assaulted her. It was that he made her feel uncomfortable.

Yup, that fell apart quickly.

[PACOX]

Not blatantly corrupt shit heels like DeVos or Pruitt. Biden would re-nominate Garland.

Seriously are you making a both sides are the same argument?

Biden will concede to Republicans...just like the administration he was apart of did.

[Felya]

Yup, that fell apart quickly.

What time was Biden’s speech? That tweet was from 8 hours ago. Did this change, after Biden asked to have records revealed?

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Biden will concede to Republicans...just like the administration he was apart of did.

On what? How is Trump getting around democrat House now?

Just a reminder, a lot of the shitty things Trump did was with republican majorities in house and senate, then relied largely on emergency declarations for everything.

[bmjclark]

https://mobile.twitter.com/marykbruc...97317235027968

She now has changed her wording to that she "complained" to them. Not that she filed a complaint.


This is in direct contradiction to previous reports that she filed a complaint, such as this report: https://www.foxnews.com/media/tara-r...den-staff-lied

That link is broken. Either way, hopefully they can go looking for the record and find it if it exists. If not, it's good that the options won't be between 2 rapists.

[Felya]

That link is broken

Try clicking to edit, then copy and paste... but, let me try:
https://mobile.twitter.com/marykbruc...97317235027968

[Zaktar]

What time was Biden’s speech? That tweet was from 8 hours ago. Did this change, after Biden asked to have records revealed?

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On what? How is Trump getting around democrat House now?

Hard to tell, also around 8 (edit: 9 I guess) hours ago. Not sure if it changed as a response, roughly concurrently, or in anticipation.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/125...llegation.html

[Felya]

Hard to tell, also around 8 hours ago. Not sure if it changed as a response, roughly concurrently, or in anticipation.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/125...llegation.html

It started “about 9 hours ago”... it looks like the change did come after Biden said to reveal. Strange...

[breadisfunny]

You can tell me as much as you want that you'll one day be able to hold your breath for 30 minutes but no matter how hard you try it'll never happen because of how the human body works.

A third party will never win a national election with how our system works. It's not defeatism, it's reality.

no it's defeatism. whining because you can't change your system and then refusing to do anything to change it.

[Zaktar]

It started “about 9 hours ago”... it looks like the change did come after Biden said to reveal. Strange...

Will see if anything comes out of the archives but this story seems dead in the water at this point.

[eschatological]

Hard to tell, also around 8 hours ago. Not sure if it changed as a response, roughly concurrently, or in anticipation.

Biden's interview was on Morning Joe, which airs from 6 AM to 9 AM EST. Assuming it was no later than the 8 AM hour (usually important guests are scheduled for the top of the hour), it's been about 9 1/2 hours since the interview.

[beanman12345]

So that theo person went through all that trouble exposing herself as a fraud, all for nothing. rofl.

[Felya]

no it's defeatism. whining because you can't change your system and then refusing to do anything to change it.

Your solution is nothing more than... hope and prayers...

[Zaktar]

Biden's interview was on Morning Joe, which airs from 6 AM to 9 AM EST. Assuming it was no later than the 8 AM hour (usually important guests are scheduled for the top of the hour), it's been about 9 1/2 hours since the interview.

Y'all are too quick for me, I tried to fix it!