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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    After which it will be another corporate democrat vs a far right nut from the GOP?
    Don’t you mean “far right corporate nut”... you have a literal corporation in Trump, but you forgot to mention it? What was Hillarie’s evil corporation? What’s Biden’s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srandwist View Post
    It is really impossible to imagine you saying the same thing had an identical scenario happened with Trump.
    Which is a good thing an identical thing didn't happen with Trump. Or did you forget the payouts to the pornstars, after he lied about it ever happening? You Trumpkins are beyond adorable. Do you have a plan for after the world burns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Which original story. The one from last year, the one from last month or the one from today? She's now changed her story 3 times.
    Damn, yeah - that's just awful.

    The important thing here, the distinguishing thing, is that we do NOT attack her. Let her story and issues die away naturally. The Trumpsters would be sending death threats. We need to be better. We are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Honestly that does seem to be the strategy, and why the Democratic establishment ghouls flipped their lid over Justin Amash entering the race as a spoiler against Biden. In the end their whole shtick is to shuck the Socialists and Lefties for Republicans and the CIA fanclub.
    Uhm... it’s anti Trump republicans claiming it won’t help. Like the Lincoln Project and Walsh...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...reelect-trump/
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-justi...-biden-1500834

    Here is NYT:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/o...president.html
    Democrats shouldn’t freak out just yet. It’s just as likely that in November he could hurt the president.
    @PACOX FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Are we done talking about Reade now that she's once again lied/changed her story?

    Now that Biden says to pull out the official records so the public can view her complaint, she's now saying she never actually made an official complaint despite in the past saying she made an official complaint?

    She's a Russian saboteur. At this point, she needs to be sued for defamation and likely put in jail if she violates a gag order put on her for her fairy tail obsession with Joe Biden fingering her.
    I have yet to see this, do you have a source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    longest breath hold on record is 22 mins 22 secs. 22 secs longer than the previous. who knows maybe they will reach your 30 mins one day. you know..as long as folks keep trying.
    Thanks for proving my point.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Which is a good thing an identical thing didn't happen with Trump. Or did you forget the payouts to the pornstars, after he lied about it ever happening? You Trumpkins are beyond adorable. Do you have a plan for after the world burns?

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    Damn, yeah - that's just awful.

    The important thing here, the distinguishing thing, is that we do NOT attack her. Let her story and issues die away naturally. The Trumpsters would be sending death threats. We need to be better. We are better.
    Right, I would never attack her. I actually believe there is a mental disorder in play here, and as someone who suffers from one myself, would never do on another. Trumpsters have no empathy or shame, so it's not surprising they resort to such tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    no it's defeatism. whining because you can't change your system and then refusing to do anything to change it.
    Thanks for the strawman, but next time let's not invent things I didn't say.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    The house is establishment ineffective and only passing bills first passed by the senate. useless.
    Yes, US has 3 branches of federal government, with congress represented as two equal parts, the house and the senate. It’s house first, then senate:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    The house is establishment ineffective and only passing bills first passed by the senate. useless.
    I see your lies continue with abandon. Congrats on making the world a worse place.

    The House has passed more than 400 bills this year, as you well know, all of which are sitting, unaddressed or actioned upon, by the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    defeatism at it's finest. of course nothing's possible if you give up before you even try.
    Dude, i'd love to agree with you, but i happen to live in reality, where you have less than optimal choices and you have to vote for the less bad one. Biden IS the less bad one, at leas between the 2 candidates that have any real chance of winning this (and again, No third party candidate will win, so voting for them is wasting your vote, or even worse giving it to dotard tang, if you happen to live in any swing state).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srandwist View Post
    You trust a segregationist homophobe with a history of working with vile racists and far right Republicans to promote a liberal supreme?
    Why the fuck do we let burner accounts stay here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I see your lies continue with abandon. Congrats on making the world a worse place.
    Remember the good old times of school house rock, instead of turtles or some bullshit? Well I don’t!!! I was under the iron fist of communism!!! Cyka blyat...

    I have a strange since of humor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    The house establishment is ineffective and only passing bills first passed by the senate. useless.
    I swear, y'all literally either haven't the foggiest clue about how the US government actually works or you're wilfully ignoring that.

    Controlling the House gives them very limited power overall, but still gives them some power. Trump tax cut 2.0? Yeah, that's not gonna happen now.

    They've passed tons of great legislation, it's just sitting dead at McConnell's door because they can't force him to take up legislation in the Senate.

    I'll take the ability to stymie awful Republican legislation like the Trump tax cut over giving Republicans full control of the government however I can get it. And if that means looking to establishment Democrats and Tom Perez to deliver that victory because the Justice Democrats are failing spectacularly, then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    The house establishment is ineffective and only passing bills introduced by the senate. useless.
    You know that Turtle McConell is blocking almost every bill that has passed in the house since the dems retook it, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    You know that Turtle McConell is blocking almost every bill that has passed in the house since the dems retook it, right?
    That actually helps his point that they are useless...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Right, I would never attack her. I actually believe there is a mental disorder in play here, and as someone who suffers from one myself, would never do on another. Trumpsters have no empathy or shame, so it's not surprising they resort to such tactics.
    Oh ye, go ahead and try to wave it away by trying to imply she has a mental disorder.

    Really classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That actually helps his point that they are useless...
    Because it is by design, not because they're stopped by corporate greed or something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    So why does the House continue to pass bills introduced by the Senate?
    Because they're doing their job? Your problem is with the Senate and the Turtle, not with the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That actually helps his point that they are useless...
    Mitch is a evil smart man, who cares about only one thing. Power.

    As long as he holds power and has others basically begging him to pass bills he will never change.

    I’m pretty sure his dream is to for trump to die, Dems and republicans to die from corona and have the courts he packed make him king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Democrats have failed as much as Trump and the GOP at their response thus far. Full Stop. They are both terrible, and passed Trillions of dollars in no-time with only single peep coming from Republican. The only good part was the part worked on by Sanders. Huge Surprise there.
    They blocked the republican led covid stimulus package and made their own on the house. WTH are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Because it is by design, not because they're stopped by corporate greed or something like that
    I know, but I need to highlight faults in what people I usually agree with say. Otherwise, I seem biased...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    That's largely the accusation levied against both Clinton and Obama too. So let's compare their "compromised" SCOTUS nominees, vs. the nominees of those stalwarts of non-compromise, the Republicans:

    Clinton/Obama:
    RBG
    Breyer
    Sotomayor
    Kagan
    Garland (nominated)

    Bush Jr./Trump:
    Roberts
    Alito
    Gorsuch
    Kavanaugh

    Which list do you prefer?
    Clinton and Obama ran as progressives) relative to their time). Biden wants to go backwards and Republicans have shown they can pull him even further back with a little bit of pressure.

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