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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    If you fell for the Lincoln Project grift you got fucking conned and you need to reflect on that so you don't get conned by Republicans again, liberals.
    You still believe popular support for Bernie's policies translates to the Presidency, just like the popular vote means Clinton won. Oh wait. Talk about conned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    My entire point is that you have no idea why Democrats chose Biden. You DO NOT know - you want to know, you think you know, and you desperately want an answer to the horror that is currently unfolding here in the United States.

    So do I.

    But what I really want to know is why so many people back such a horror of a human being (Trump). That they double down on ignorance, hate, lies, racism, and everything that America is supposed to be against. I honestly have no idea how to fix that. And if Trump steals another win, it may become impossible to ever fix it.

    But let's not let that anger and sadness and horror divide people that agree on most things. Let's work together and try to find a path through the darkness.

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    Those Georgia ballots are going to swing heavily for Biden though, right?
    I do know.

    You do too.

    Biden was not most Dems first choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    My entire point is that you have no idea why Democrats chose Biden. You DO NOT know - you want to know, you think you know, and you desperately want an answer to the horror that is currently unfolding here in the United States.

    So do I.

    But what I really want to know is why so many people back such a horror of a human being (Trump). That they double down on ignorance, hate, lies, racism, and everything that America is supposed to be against. I honestly have no idea how to fix that. And if Trump steals another win, it may become impossible to ever fix it.

    But let's not let that anger and sadness and horror divide people that agree on most things. Let's work together and try to find a path through the darkness.

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    Those Georgia ballots are going to swing heavily for Biden though, right?
    At end the of the day, humans are animals and instincts are still very strong in our DNA.

    Negative behaviors of today like tribalism and racism helped humanity survive in the past so those things have stuck around today.

    We know the best way to combat that is with education but as we all know it is very lacking in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brubear View Post
    It's looking like the map will shake out like this

    https://www.270towin.com/maps/gNeK9



    So Biden is looking like he'll win if current votes/trends hold, but if he doesn't also pick up PA it's going to be by the skin of his teeth. If he takes over with a GOP-controlled Senate after barely winning I'm betting we'll see obstruction from McConnell that would make the shit he pulled under Obama look like bipartisanship. Especially with hose close MI and WI are looking.
    Biden can work with this GOP... that was his calling card during the 80s and why he is such an easy target for leftists through the 90s.
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    For the first time in American history, a ticket with a woman on it will likely win.
    Kamala Harris will be the first female, first Black, and first South Asian Vice President.

    Question, is this more upsetting to:
    • Conservatives?
    • Cosplay Socialists?


    Both groups really seem to hate the Dems for being a diverse and representative party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    My entire point is that you have no idea why Democrats chose Biden. You DO NOT know - you want to know, you think you know, and you desperately want an answer to the horror that is currently unfolding here in the United States.

    So do I.

    But what I really want to know is why so many people back such a horror of a human being (Trump). That they double down on ignorance, hate, lies, racism, and everything that America is supposed to be against. I honestly have no idea how to fix that. And if Trump steals another win, it may become impossible to ever fix it.

    But let's not let that anger and sadness and horror divide people that agree on most things. Let's work together and try to find a path through the darkness.

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    Those Georgia ballots are going to swing heavily for Biden though, right?
    Occam's razor a lot of Americans are horrible human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Says who? I'm not seeing that on CNN or NYT.
    It was an unofficial report, I shouldn't have said anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    You still believe popular support for Bernie's policies translates to the Presidency, just like the popular vote means Clinton won. Oh wait. Talk about conned.
    The support for government healthcare is defined by “keep government out of my Medicare” and ACA beating ObamaCare decisively in polling. It hinges on rhetoric describing the government healthcare... Trump has succeeded in demonizing Medicare for all, without much opposition from leftists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Will both go to runoff? I though the Perdue/Ossoff race would be done, regardless of the 50% attainment. I know the other one will go because of the 50%+1 issue.
    According to this, https://www.270towin.com/2020-electi...georgia#senate they both will if they fail to get more than 50%. In either case, the majority could change mid session. I was just curious how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Occam's razor a lot of Americans are horrible human beings.
    Hanlon’s razor... they are misinformed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I do know.

    You do too.

    Biden was not most Dems first choice.
    If he wasn't "most dems first choice" He wouldn't have won the primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Mind explaining how it constitutes a con that there's Republicans who find the Trumpism brand of "conservatism" abhorrent?
    That the money donated didn't really flip many Republican votes, so the Lincoln Project was pretty much a failure at its stated goal. It is, and always was, a "feel good" group for liberals who wanted to believe that there were "good Republicans" (there are) who would and could flip Republican voters. Apparently they believed it to the tune of $67M, and that money could have been spent much better in a ton of other places.

    If you want to take the dimmest view possible, liberals basically funded a conservative political group that wouldn't be able to find work within their party in the current political climate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    For the first time in American history, a ticket with a woman on it will likely win.
    Kamala Harris will be the first female, first Black, and first South Asian Vice President.

    Question, is this more upsetting to:
    • Conservatives?
    • Cosplay Socialists?


    Both groups really seem to hate the Dems for being a diverse and representative party.
    fuck off. Left wing are perfectly fine with what you describe and do hate Trump a lot. Basically the people are just mad at how close this election is which understandably rises tensions. The only fault in this is people willing to stand with facists that is republicans.

    Also people should stop blaming left wing or right wing democrats for this shit. Blame is entirely on people that vote for Trump. They don't give a shit about dead US ppl and probably don't care about reality as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadriker View Post
    If he wasn't "most dems first choice" He wouldn't have won the primary.
    That's objectively not true.

    I think most liked X's policies, but felt Biden is the safer pick because....reasons.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Hanlon’s razor... they are misinformed...
    That's making excuses for them Trump with his own words has been very clear as to what he is. If you support him then you most likely are a piece of shit. This is not 2016 they know what he is.

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    They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!

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    Yes this amazing thing is happening! When votes come in they are counted! Shocking!
    Democrats are the best! I will never ever question a Democrat again. I LOVE the Democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!

    Trump Tweet.

    Yes this amazing thing is happening! When votes come in the are counted! Shocking!
    Oh no, Democracy! The horror.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    That's making excuses for them Trump with his own words has been very clear as to what he is. If you support him then you most likely are a piece of shit. This is not 2016 they know what he is.
    That would mean they are misinformed... Because Trump doesn’t come out and claim to be a fascist. You have to read between the lines...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I do know.

    You do too.

    Biden was not most Dems first choice.
    Please don't. We don't need to have another pointless argument. You have no basis for that statement, and you know you don't. Be better than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadriker View Post
    If he wasn't "most dems first choice" He wouldn't have won the primary.
    Or lead in polls for a whole year.
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