Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Thekri]

I'm going to say at the min. it'll be 270 Biden, 269 maybe Trump.

Considering that is mathematically impossible, probably not. If Biden gets 270, there are only 268 votes left for Trump to win. I don't think anyone is going to discover an extra electoral vote that nobody knew existed.

[Shadowferal]

I think the doom and gloom came mostly from the anticipation that this shouldn't have been this close (not landslide, but also not down to the wire either)

As I posted earlier;

Yeah...this is...so far, closer than I thought it'd be.
We can point out several single issues...but the biggest problem is the condescension. While it's always been there, it has never been so obvious as it has this election.
Biden has addressed this by appealing to those voters that many here have, and still do, see as "stupid." They aren't. And neither was the Biden campaign.

I believe Biden will get the win eventually. But those on the screeching AOC Left won't be happy. At least Trump gave them a target.
Too many didn't vote in favor of Biden.
They voted against Trump.
Sound a lot like 2016. Fortunately, that was a lesson learned against presumption.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Last night there were a ton of swing states in the red with Trump ahead at margins that made even the absentee/mail-in ballot count look unlikely.

naah people just really needed to calm down last night

[thilicen]

The only thing that would actually surprise me is him conceding. Any other feculant sentence that leaves his mouth, no matter how petty, violent, paranoid or conspiratorial, would be par the course. Just like every other thing he’s said these past four years.

Suppose he COULD concede on grounds of a "pointless and rigged election", going out as the martyr in his own eyes. Though I expect something wildly different.

[alexw]

I'm thankful Trump is out, but depressed at the same time. If Biden was going to be a return to normalcy before, I think we're simply going to see status quo now for the most part with a Senate loss. Biden can reverse the course of a few government agencies like the USPS and EPA, but not much else.

This wasn't supposed to be this close, which doesn't leave me optimistic for the midterms.

Tbh it should be the opposite I'd think, at least on probability.

Trump voters come out for Trump, not for status quo republicans and Trump won't be on ticket in the mid terms.

Plus Dems are winning educated voters while repubs are winning uneducated ones, and educated voters are known to have a significantly more consistent turnout pattern. Witness the shit between 2016>2018>2020. 2022 is more likely to be like 2018 than 2020.

[kaelleria]

PA is going to Biden. AZ is going to Biden. NV is going to Biden.

Trust me. This is how it will play out

Georgia is a tossup and we might not flip it, but it will be very close.

[Mihalik]

Sending Federal Troops won't do shit, because there isn't an violence anywhere. Nothing more embarrasing then showing up in riot gear and you can't find any riots.

No, for all the fear of it, there doesn't seem to be any sort of civil unrest. Nor will there be. This seems to be a good clean election, America isn't tearing its own throat out, nobody is killing each other on the streets, the vote count seems to reflect what voters actually voted.

Whether this is going to get messy or not will only really become obvious the moment one of the candidates gets to 270.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

PA is going to Biden. AZ is going to Biden. NV is going to Biden.

Trust me. This is how it will play out

Georgia is a tossup and we might not flip it, but it will be very close.

PA doesn't matter at this point regardless. Even if he does win it, he would've hit 270 by then.

[kaelleria]

PA doesn't matter at this point regardless. Even if he does win it, he would've hit 270 by then.

Right, but that's what the results will be.

[Theodarzna]

Considering that is mathematically impossible, probably not. If Biden gets 270, there are only 268 votes left for Trump to win. I don't think anyone is going to discover an extra electoral vote that nobody knew existed.

Oh, I must have missed one, Apologies, Whatever, point stands, I still say Biden squeaks out a win.

[Hadriker]

It's a 238/216. (213 really +3 from Alaska which hasn't been called yet, but you know...it's Alaska).

The current assumption is that Biden will win Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, while also holding Arizona, which was called for Biden but there are some possible issues there, which will get him to 270.

If there's a hitch tho, any hitch, with any of those states then were back to a Pennsylvania tie breaker.

It's still far from being in the bag, but looks favorably for Biden.

I'm hopeful but faaaaar from confident.

Still hoping Biden can Clinch PA as well and make it 290/248

[Cosmic Janitor]

That the election is even this close after the last 4 years genuinely terrifies me.

Half of this country - thereabouts - truly does live in a completely alternate reality.

This. The sad thing is, if all the polling even remotely relates to any tendency in the population at all, it is clear that before covid, Trumps chances to win would have been even higher. It's scary to think people have absolutely not grasped the perpetual shit show that was the politcal landscape in the last 4 years. Other countries have to supress the media and run gulags and other internment camps to hide the leader's incompetency, in the US it doesn't even seem to matter for half the population.

As you said: It's genuinely terrifying.

[Mehrunes]

We're fickle and highly emotionally charged right now, and just want it all to be over with our sanity in tact.

Given how many votes Trump got after four years of constant train wreck I wouldn't recommend sanity to Americans.

[Mihalik]

As I posted earlier;

Yeah...this is...so far, closer than I thought it'd be.
We can point out several single issues...but the biggest problem is the condescension. While it's always been there, it has never been so obvious as it has this election.
Biden has addressed this by appealing to those voters that many here have, and still do, see as "stupid." They aren't. And neither was the Biden campaign.

I believe Biden will get the win eventually. But those on the screeching AOC Left won't be happy. At least Trump gave them a target.
Too many didn't vote in favor of Biden.
They voted against Trump.
Sound a lot like 2016. Fortunately, that was a lesson learned against presumption.

And we're already starting with the enlightened Democrat centrist bullshit.

Win or lose, centrism failed horribly. This shouldn't have been a fucking a toss up (it still is) this was supposed to be a centrist slam dunk.

Even if Biden wins, which I really hope he will, this was waaaaay too close for comfort.

[Thekri]

PA is going to Biden. AZ is going to Biden. NV is going to Biden.

Trust me. This is how it will play out

Georgia is a tossup and we might not flip it, but it will be very close.

I still have heavy doubts on PA. It isn't that Biden can't win it, it is just that it is likely to be so incredibly close that nobody can confidentially predict which side the coin falls on. I also think it is entirely likely that people are overestimating the percentage of the outstanding votes that went for Biden.

Fortunately, it doesn't look like PA is going to matter. Hopefully at least. Georgia might wind up a coin toss, but hopefully it doesn't matter either.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

I'm not surprised at the race being this close. I called it months ago. This country is racist, xenophobic, and prejudice against many things, including women also. Trump was the greenlight for the moles to come out of their hole and expose their true colors. And with the handling of COVID, the riots/protests, the kids in cages, the women's marches, and all the rhetoric and conspiracies coming from Trump, you really think you're shocked? Or are you just disappointed? I think it's the second.

Oh and if you think people of color can't be racist or the other things i've said towards others or their own kind? Guess again.

Kamala is going to be the first female US president and her being of color is going to incite hell, so get ready for it.

[Breccia]

Sending Federal Troops won't do shit, because there isn't an violence anywhere.

I was suggesting Trump would send, say, ICE thugs in military hardware to "secure" the Pennsylvania ballots. Something he's definitely not supposed to do, but you've seen the last four years as much as I have.

[Flower Milk]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...ection-results

Centrist Democrats learned absolutely NOTHING from this election

Pelosi has become an early target for moderates representing suburban districts worried that their leadership's strategy hurt such members ahead of the election.

One of the two lawmakers who spoke to The Hill said a number of Democrats representing suburban and exurban districts had been talking about the need for a change.

“It’s time for Democrats to elevate a new generation of leadership in both the House and the Senate,” the lawmaker said. “Americans are clearly afraid of ‘socialism,’ want safe streets and neighborhoods, and to vote for people who they believe will help put more money in their pockets. While Democratic policies can adequately address those issues, our messaging mechanism clearly cannot.”

Centrist Democrats lost their elections, progressive and DSA backed Democrats won their elections, and progressive policies won. And centrist Democrats turn around and go "we need to move further to the right, that's the problem". Kick these incompetent fucks out and replace them with progressive leadership immediately.

https://twitter.com/GunnelsWarren/st...39767542140929

72% want a "government-run healthcare plan"

Florida voted for a $15 minimum wage

SD, AZ & NJ voted to legalize weed

CO voted for 12 weeks of paid family & medical leave

It turns out a progressive agenda is what the American people want. But yeah, blame "socialism." Pathetic

https://twitter.com/Beckz0rzz/status...46630794268672

DSA has won 19/22 of our nationally endorsed races so far

[Belize]

I'm going to say at the min. it'll be 270 Biden, 269 maybe Trump.

Might want to check your math there

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

wHAT should scare you guys is that you should realize that Trump can rerun again when he loses later today or tomorrow.