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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Around 70-80% of Americans support keeping abortion legal, but conservatives don't. Should Democrats give up on supporting abortion because conservatives don't, even though Americans overwhelmingly support it?

    Around 80-90% of Americans support gun control, even though conservatives don't. Should Democrats give up on supporting gun control because conservatives don't, even though Americans overwhelmingly support it?

    Around 70% of Americans support single payer healthcare, even though conservatives don't. And yet somehow, it makes complete sense to liberals to not support it, even though Americans overwhelmingly support it, and they agree that they shouldn't give up on supporting other issues like abortion and gun control that Americans overwhelmingly support it.

    Make it make sense to me. If Americans overwhelmingly support something, why should Democrats not support doing that thing???
    You were doing great there up until the end. Where are you seeing that Democrats don't support those policy positions you listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Georgia reports 240,000 left to count and Trump leads by 80,000.

    That's not enough for Biden to comfortably take the lead. Might be close enough for a recount, if he thinks it's worth it.
    That only requires a 2 to 1 Biden ratio to tie (66%), and the uncounted ballots are in heavily blue areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    HMMMMMMMMMMM

    https://twitter.com/NeeNeinNyetNo/st...74306796769285

    nah actually guys we don't need to listen to progressives we don't owe them anything just keep ignoring them
    Prove it... post that on Twitter... let me know how it goes...
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    Trump campaign is trying to declare victory in PA...

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    It doesn't really impact anything, but I'm kind of curious as to why Alaska hasn't been called for Trump yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    HMMMMMMMMMMM

    https://twitter.com/NeeNeinNyetNo/st...74306796769285



    nah actually guys we don't need to listen to progressives we don't owe them anything just keep ignoring them
    Double swing and a miss.

    No data to back the "twitter claim".
    Where did we say Democrats shouldn't listen to progressives?

    Why are you trying so hard to start a fight you can't even start out winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    A poll by the Kaiser Foundation, really???

    Do you believe polls done by oil companies too that global warming is totally fine?
    Do you believe 538?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    HMMMMMMMMMMM

    https://twitter.com/NeeNeinNyetNo/st...74306796769285



    nah actually guys we don't need to listen to progressives we don't owe them anything just keep ignoring them
    I blame Rashida for Peters' Senate loss with no evidence too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You were doing great there up until the end. Where are you seeing that Democrats don't support those policy positions you listed?
    My bad, 80-90% of Democratic VOTERS support single payer healthcare/Medicare for All, Democratic Party leadership does not, and recently voted it down as part of their party platform even though their voters overwhelmingly support it, and ~70% of Americans support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Double swing and a miss.

    No data to back the "twitter claim".
    Where did we say Democrats shouldn't listen to progressives?

    Why are you trying so hard to start a fight you can't even start out winning?
    It’s just a random tweeting... just like you and I...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Trump campaign is trying to declare victory in PA...
    And that is how you know he really lost PA. Dude needs to lose with grace, but we knew he would throw a fit.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    It doesn't really impact anything, but I'm kind of curious as to why Alaska hasn't been called for Trump yet.
    Not sure, pretty sure everyone mentally gave it to Trump and forgot about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    It doesn't really impact anything, but I'm kind of curious as to why Alaska hasn't been called for Trump yet.
    Probably due to only 50% of the vote being in. Technically if 3/4ths of the remaining vote for all for Biden, it could flip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Do you believe 538?
    No Nate Silver is a hack

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    NBC, who I keep using for whatever reason, says Trump is head in PA by 300,000 and there are 1,200,000 left to count.

    Biden would need a high margin to catch up at this rate. As in "they'd all have to be Eagles fans who saw the banner" high. Trump might not want to stop the count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    My bad, 80-90% of Democratic VOTERS support single payer healthcare/Medicare for All, Democratic Party leadership does not, and recently voted it down as part of their party platform even though their voters overwhelmingly support it, and ~70% of Americans support it.
    Again, why aren't M4A candidates winning bigly, nationally, if that's the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadriker View Post
    So most dems favored other candidates but voted for Biden becasue "reasons" and this somehow makes your statement the objective truth. got it.
    Yes.

    I'm not sure why this is fucking controversial.

    Most Dems want actual liberal policy like from Warren or Sanders. But they, incorrectly think independents won't vote for them. So instead of going with candidates with policies they want, they compromise and go with who they think can win. The problem is the strategy they used is flawed because independents are not centrist...they are disillusioned.
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  18. #25678
    Trump's current positions

    Counting must be stopped in:

    1. PA (where he's leading, but could fall behind)

    2. MI (where he probably can't catch up)

    Counting must continue in:

    1. AZ (where he's behind)

    2. NV (where's he's behind)

    Recount in:

    1. Wisconsin (where he lost)
    https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status...985165315?s=19

    Honestly Trumpkins. This is the farcical. Start, stop, start, stop.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Middle america also consider socialist = communist = must be destroyed at all costs even if they agree with the actual policies
    Different worlds.

    Around 70% of our economy is informal. So only 30% of the citizens are taxable.

    This 30% pays for everything and usually they don't even use the public services themselves because they can afford private services. Sot hey pay for services twice.

    30% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes for systems they don't use

    70% of the population wants a socialist system were they don't contribute but reap the bennefits

    100% of the money will be stolen by corrupted politicians anyway. They just made millions that were donated for corona relief dissapear.

  20. #25680
    These new PA results so far are pretty astonishing. Biden picked up about 120,000 votes in the last batch while Trump got, what, 2000? Trump's going to lose that state bigly if this keeps up.

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