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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's a list of forum rules. Where is your evidence for your assertion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    This is a decision for the legislative. Not clear what scenario you are envisaging.
    What the fuck? You are now defending Trump and republicans not funding the violence against women act? No buddy... if Trump wanted it funded, it would be funded. But, Trump has 47 reasons why it’s in his best interest to not fund it. Biden fucking wrote it... wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Ever hear of Anita Hill or Paula Jones? Hell, it took a stained dress to truly nail Bill Clinton. We should honestly investigate her claims and go from there.
    But, she actually voted for Biden, twice.

    I'm fine with investigating her claims. I look forward to her testifying under oath, in a deposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    HER FUCKING TWITTER FEED. I know you were around long enough before to have seen the articles showing her supporting the White House wishing Biden a happy birthday and whatnot.
    Yes I'm sure the evidence you aren't linking to and haven't quoted means that she's a whore who asked for it and Weinstein, sorry Trump, sorry BIDEN is completely innocent. Really persuasive. Rapists everywhere thank you for enabling them with your online smear campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    That's a list of forum rules. Where is your evidence for your assertion?
    It's there, enjoy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Ever hear of Anita Hill or Paula Jones? Hell, it took a stained dress to truly nail Bill Clinton. We should honestly investigate her claims and go from there.
    Actually, it wasn’t the dress... it’s the reason why Trump refused to give testimony. If Clinton didn’t lie about doing it, the dress would have been irrelevant. The key was Clinton, under oath, saying he didn’t do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    Yes I'm sure the evidence you aren't linking to and haven't quoted means that she's a whore who asked for it and Weinstein, sorry Trump, sorry BIDEN is completely innocent. Really persuasive. Rapists everywhere thank you for enabling them with your online smear campaign.
    I gladly provided it, where she admitted she voted for Biden... twice, almost 20 years after the alleged sexual assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrod View Post
    So by the definition, and "consent can be withdrawn at any time" if a guy is mid pump and then the girl is like "NO" and he pumps one more time, it's rape and he's in jail for the next 10 years.

    I'm not saying this to water down the crime, I saying this because the legal definition certainly doesn't reflect how it works in the real world. The definitions are strict and the application is generally more lenient.
    OK we'll forget about the law and use some random bullshit definition you came up with. That makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    Yes I'm sure the evidence you aren't linking to and haven't quoted means that she's a whore who asked for it and Weinstein, sorry Trump, sorry BIDEN is completely innocent. Really persuasive. Rapists everywhere thank you for enabling them with your online smear campaign.
    I linked GOP blocking the violence against women act... you made a vein attempt at excusing it. What is that called? 1.6 billion to help persecute the wealthy and powerful, like Biden and Trump... Trump is never going to sign it, as he hasn’t up to this point, while Biden wrote it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I linked GOP blocking the violence against women act... you made a vein attempt at excusing it. What is that called? 1.6 billion to help persecute the wealthy and powerful, like Biden and Trump... Trump is never going to sign it, as he hasn’t up to this point, while Biden wrote it.
    I guess some people just don't want the victims of sexual assault protected.

    How sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I guess some people just don't want the victims of sexual assault protected.

    How sad.
    We know the real victim... the most persecuted....



    Hey, a different Epstein party... go Trump... it’s her 12 birthday... time to party like it’s her birthday... fity back me up on this track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I gladly provided it, where she admitted she voted for Biden... twice, almost 20 years after the alleged sexual assault.
    Victims of sexual assault sometimes feel a misguided sense of guilt caused by feelings of shame. This may cause them to defend and make further errors of judgement about the perpetrator.

    According to your logic a kid that gets raped by a parent who feels responsible must be legally and morally responsible. Well done for enabling practitioners of sexual violence everywhere.

    Do your funny flippant response thing I think I'm done here for now. It is making me feel physically ill talking to a human being as disgusting as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    Victims of sexual assault sometimes feel a misguided sense of guilt caused by feelings of shame. This may cause them to defend and make further errors of judgement about the perpetrator.

    According to your logic a kid that gets raped by a parent who feels responsible must be legally and morally responsible. Well done for enabling practitioners of sexual violence everywhere.

    Do your funny flippant response thing I think I'm done here for now. It is making me feel physically ill talking to a human being as disgusting as you.
    Don't come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You remember who he was the alternative to right?
    I believe it was McCain and Romney, moderate Republicans. Regardless of who it was, she still voted for Obama/Biden. That does raise issues, and would weigh on a jury, and even a prosecutor who was pondering pushing the case.

    If I'm a prosecutor, and someone comes to me, and says they were sexually assaulted 20 years ago, and the person continued supporting that person, including voting (which is private, and there is no duress), then that coming out in trial would be disastrous.

    "Why did you twice vote for the man who allegedly sexually assaulted you?"

    That's a tough question to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    Do your funny flippant response thing I think I'm done here for now. It is making me feel physically ill talking to a human being as disgusting as you.
    A flipant response, is actually what you told me, in response to pointing out that under Trump, violence against women act got defunded. You can’t fake sincerity, when you just defended GOP defunding 1.6 billion in support to victims of assault. You can’t have it both ways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    Victims of sexual assault sometimes feel a misguided sense of guilt caused by feelings of shame. This may cause them to defend and make further errors of judgement about the perpetrator.

    According to your logic a kid that gets raped by a parent who feels responsible must be legally and morally responsible. Well done for enabling practitioners of sexual violence everywhere.

    Do your funny flippant response thing I think I'm done here for now. It is making me feel physically ill talking to a human being as disgusting as you.
    Like I said, I'm going to need some evidence to back all this up.

    By the way, that's not my logic, that's you building a straw man. I should note, it's also intellectually dishonest to do that. She was no longer in contact with him, he held no power over here. As far as I know, I cannot find a time where they even saw each other after her employment ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post

    Hey, a different Epstein party... go Trump... it’s her 12 birthday... time to party like it’s her birthday... fity back me up on this track.
    The evidence of association between Epstein and Trump is bad...but the advice of association between Bill Clinton and Epstein is much worse because of Clinton's visit to paedo island. There needs to be a full investigation into both. This isn't something where you can push a partisan advantage, it makes any one who supports either main party look really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You remember who he was the alternative to right?
    Do you remember who brought Paula Jones to his debates with Hillary Clinton... the woman Bill cheated on... that was pretty fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francid View Post
    The evidence of association between Epstein and Trump is bad...but the advice of association between Bill Clinton and Epstein is much worse because of Clinton's visit to paedo island. There needs to be a full investigation into both. This isn't something where you can push a partisan advantage, it makes any one who supports either main party look really bad.
    Yeah, I’m not voting Clinton. Clinton is off topic in this thread. Trump isn’t... stop defending sexual assault. Seriously... what’s with the change of tune? Did I hit the sweet spot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrod View Post
    There's lots written in the books but it doesn't reflect what actually happens. I didn't come up with a random definition, I'm saying that there's established precedent for crimes like these, and even without researching it I'm sure that a guy who fingers a girl (which is sexual assault) doesn't get as much jail time as a guy who forces a girl to have sex with him.
    I’m pretty sure 47 assaults would get a normal person life in prison, not a second term.

    Edit: in fact it... because of Biden’s crime bill’s 3 strike rule... Trump would be in jail after 3rd, if he were convicted... because of Biden... and his accusers would be able to afford persecuting Trump, because of Biden’s violence against women act. You can’t make this shit up... lol

    Edit 2: That’s why Trump has so many NDA’s through the enquirer and all the out of court settling. The dude paid his way out of life in jail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't pretend. I flat out deny. You are reaching absurd levels of paranoia to think that we said Biden was some evil mastermind. All I see is a laundry list of excuses. I won't mention Bernie other than to say I don't agree with him on everything he's done. Try and not deflect, because Biden is terrible. You are only using the same kind of excuses I hear from Trump supporters.
    If you don't like a laundry list of responses don't parrot a laundry list of attacks. Do a little background research on DOMA and the Democrats involvement in it rather than reading off a top 10 reasons Biden is a secret Republican list. There were far worse things being lined up, that the Supreme Court would have been unable to do anything to address.

    Beyond that, take a step away from all this, and ask yourself this. Why are you and the Trump supporters on this forum pretty much moving in lockstep? If your views are so separate, why do you keep on agreeing continuously? The same arguments, the same sources even the same attack videos on YouTube. They're serving up quite a bit of koolaid that your drinking down because you hate Biden so much. He is, at worst, a handsy bumbler who is unable to distinguish himself from Obama. But the comments in the past week have pretty much placed him as the source of all evil.

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