Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

Vice Presidents have little real power and the alternatives for the position of power were terrible compared to Obama. Phew, that was so tough.

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What’s your point?

And yet, she still voted for him, twice.

She saw his name on a screen or piece of paper, and picked it to run the country.

She could have always not voted.

This would stick in the mind of every juror.

Edit: Mind you, this is just one issue, there's also the inconsistency of her story, and what transpired.

[Kasierith]

Vice Presidents have little real power and the alternatives for the position of power were terrible compared to Obama. Phew, that was so tough.

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What’s your point?

This is usually the case, but historically we have had highly influential VPs pretty much driving the country while a weak president served in a mostly administrative capacity. Cheney being the most obvious. At a guess whoever Bidens VP will be shall be quite influential, because he doesn't have a strong presence or vision

[Felya]

Vice Presidents have little real power and the alternatives for the position of power were terrible compared to Obama. Phew, that was so tough.

Biden wrote the bill that funded women’s ability to sue Trump. Without it, Trump wouldn’t have as many NDA and out of court settlements. Biden’s bill allocated 1.6 billion to help women persecute their often more powerful assaulter. That bill expired last year a and GOP blocked it. If it comes up again next year and democrats can even get it to pass senate, Trump will veto it... Biden won’t and likely pass it as an emergency declaration, since it’s his bill.

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What’s your point?

Uhm... this:

that was pretty fucked up.

I guess you didn’t think Trump bringing Paula Jones to Hillary debates was fucked up... my bad... misread the room...

[beanman12345]

Vice Presidents have little real power and the alternatives for the position of power were terrible compared to Obama. Phew, that was so tough.

Tell that to Cheney.

[Machismo]

She picked Obama twice, I already explained this.

Biden is also listed on that ticket. His name is on the ballot. She picked Obama/Biden, twice.

[Felya]

Tell that to Cheney.

Pence is the head of pandemic response team...

[Felya]

She picked Obama twice, I already explained this.

I’m pretty sure she didn’t accuse McCain or Palin of assault. That’s a far cleaner ticket and McCain was not Trump... in a good way.

[Felya]

Wait we're talking about Trump now? Thought we were talking about Biden.

My opinion on the Trump sex allegations: come on, everyone knows who Trump is. He's heartless and immoral but also a wimp. So he got a lot of girls in compromising situations based on his wealth and fame, then pushed them to do something they didn't want to do but they just kinda went along with it. He was aggressive and manipulative, and a lot of girls have trouble standing up to powerful men. The type of stuff that is probably criminal but very hard to prove. It's the same area he lives in with his businesses - he screws over his partners but in ways that are very difficult to be held accountable for.

In 1990, Trump was completely, utterly broke. But he had control of the assets until the banks could take them from him in litigation, so he still had leverage, and the bankers decided that, knowing Trump, they were better off cutting him a deal and letting him keep some assets than have him tie them up in litigation while he bled them even more dry by letting the assets fall to ruin. To me this is the quintessential Trump move - he uses his name and his brand to get in the door, then it's easier to let him screw you a bit than it is to fight him. Nicely parallels his approach to women.

Trump’s last assault accusation is from his campaign staffer in 2016. She dropped her case shortly after filing last year, due to threats from Trump supporters. You know... those guy with giant guns, protesting in Michigan. In 2019, she was 1 of 3 new accusers alone. Trump never stopped...

[Felya]

What Bill is this that Biden wrote as VP that forced Trump to have NDAs going back to the 80’s? Some time traveling bill he got passed 30 years before his first term as VP? And Trump bringing Paula Jones has fuck all to do with whether Biden assaulted a woman. Again, I will vote against Trump in November. We should also find out if Biden is a dirtbag. If that means he resignes and his female VP becomes President? Hahahahahaha, awesome twist.

That’s a trick question... He wrote it before even being the VP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violen...inst_Women_Act

VAWA was cosponsored by Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) and Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) in 1994 and gained support from a broad coalition of advocacy groups.[1][dead link] The Act passed through Congress with bipartisan support in 1994, clearing the United States House of Representatives by a vote of 235–195 and the Senate by a vote of 61–38, although the following year House Republicans attempted to cut the Act's funding.[2] In the 2000 Supreme Court case United States v. Morrison, a sharply divided Court struck down the VAWA provision allowing women the right to sue their attackers in federal court. By a 5–4 majority, the Court overturned the provision as exceeding the federal government's powers under the Commerce Clause.

It was part of a larger crime bill he wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violen...nforcement_Act

Sponsored by Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, the bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and then was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

Here is a diagram to explain what just happened:

[Machismo]

Again. VPs do fuck all. She voted for Obama with Biden getting to sit around and do nothing. Especially when the GOP controlled the senate.

Once again, how do you think that question and the knowledge that she supported Biden would do in front of a jury or a prosecutor's office?

The Democrats controlled the House and Senate in 2008.

Now, put that on a personal level. If someone sexually assaulted you, and they are no longer in your life... are you going to vote for them for political office? I'm serious, ask yourself that question, and think damn hard about it.

[beanman12345]

Will do. People vastly overestimate what Cheney actually did.

ROFL if you say so... lol

[Kasierith]

Biden isn't a secret Republican. He is a conservative (or moderate) Democrat.

He is running for POTUS, and we are still months away. The Scrutiny Biden will face is only going to get stronger. Sorry the kid gloves of the primary are off, and now Biden will have to contend with someone who isn't his "friend".

I didn't like Biden before Trump. This isn't a new phenomenon for myself.

Neither did I. He was a distant third for me, and if you look at my posts on him overall they are lukewarm at best. But there's a difference between not being a fan, and swallowing up every attack on him that gets put out. The gloves have come off indeed, and the GOP attack mill is brutal and does not discriminate over little details like what is true.

[Orbitus]

Yes I'm sure the evidence you aren't linking to and haven't quoted means that she's a whore who asked for it and Weinstein, sorry Trump, sorry BIDEN is completely innocent. Really persuasive. Rapists everywhere thank you for enabling them with your online smear campaign.

Here, you will see it on your next account that you make in 5 minutes. https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstei...n-e4cb3ee38460

[Machismo]

Here, you will see it on your next account that you make in 5 minutes. https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstei...n-e4cb3ee38460

Slightly off subject, but something just reminded me of him. Did Skroe get perma-banned?

[Orbitus]

Slightly off subject, but something just reminded me of him. Did Skroe get perma-banned?

Not sure. He would have had to have done something pretty fucking bad to get permabanned.

[Machismo]

Not sure. He would have had to have done something pretty fucking bad to get permabanned.

I know plagiarism and calling for people's death (twice) isn't enough.

She's done it, and posts in this thread daily.

[Felya]

Not surprising. He is who he is. What's scary is that people voted for him. He just keeps finding more and more rubes to take advantage of. It's crazy that people are even willing to talk to him, that he's not a pariah. But that's the dumb, money worshipping American public.

My favorite stories come from the business "partners" who are generally small time and like "we were so excited to be involved with a big deal like DONALD TRUMP" and then they get shocked that he screws them over... just like he ultimately screws over every single person he ever deals with the first time he thinks it's to his advantage to do so.

My favorite is not about women. It’s his court case, where he sued a writer for defamation, because a book claimed he wasn’t so rich. Trump stood up in court and claimed that the difference in his records and his claims, is that publicity costs money. So, all of his paid appearances and even advertising for them, was worth a fortune in Trump bucks. At face value, it’s... lulz vain Trump, being vain.

But... consider why the Trump Wall is so important. A wall the length of US border with Mexico, that in any form it will be... will be listed in every history book... As the Trump Wall... now that’s, publicity that will outlive Trump’s kids.

Edit: It’s probable easy to tell, but I like dark humor...

Not sure. He would have had to have done something pretty fucking bad to get permabanned.

A lot of regulars are gone in different ways, during my few month absence. I’ve been coy about my desire to hear gossip... I’m sure someone will say something soon enough. We love drama...

I must say, it has gotten a lot nicer.

[Thepersona]

I know plagiarism and calling for people's death (twice) isn't enough.

She's done it, and posts in this thread daily.

AFAIK skroe was banned for wishing death upon Trump and his supporters via the good old Guillotine. Dunno if that was a perma or not.

[Orbitus]

AFAIK skroe was banned for wishing death upon Trump and his supporters via the good old Guillotine. Dunno if that was a perma or not.

And yet, some of the people on this forum, have made multiple accounts or have continued to post, even after some multiple death threats.

[Thepersona]

And yet, some of the people on this forum, have made multiple accounts or have continued to post, even after some multiple death threats.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I really cant answer that