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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Here, you will see it on your next account that you make in 5 minutes. https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstei...n-e4cb3ee38460
    Brian & Eddie Krassenstein

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    And yet, some of the people on this forum, have made multiple accounts or have continued to post, even after some multiple death threats.
    If people want them to stop, they need to stop interacting with these non stop burner accounts. The mmoc system is not capable of fully filtering them out without stopping all new traffic. And when you respond to it, it just hops on the new account to continue the shit posting.

    If people exercise some self control, and just say "this is a troll. I will not respond to it." It keeps the entire discussion from devolving, and when a mod does get around to it all the posts get wiped. But people are too concerned about being seen as being right on the internet, and fall for it every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Brian & Eddie Krassenstein

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    You didn't read it, did you? Not fucking surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    You didn't read it, did you? Not fucking surprising.
    fuck no, its the fucking krassenstiens, google them and do some basic due diligence please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    fuck no, its the fucking krassenstiens, google them and do some basic due diligence please.
    So, you are being intentionally ignorant of the situation, because of who wrote it? Even though EVERYTHING they have stated has been true? I have done some due diligence, and I am not surprised that people are dogging them, even though all they did, was just show her tweeting and blog history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So, you are being intentionally ignorant of the situation, because of who wrote it? Even though EVERYTHING they have stated has been true? I have done some due diligence, and I am not surprised that people are dogging them, even though all they did, was just show her tweeting and blog history.
    If alex jones or actually jacob wohl wrote a medium blog piece would you go 'hold on a minute lets hear them out'. You clearly dont know thier history as grifters with a touch of fraud. This is from 2018. I mean all you have to do is type krassenstien grift in to google.

    Im not going to waste my time with the krassensteins, i suspect you are experiencing confirmation bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    If alex jones or actually jacob wohl wrote a medium blog piece would you go 'hold on a minute lets hear them out'. You clearly dont know thier history as grifters with a touch of fraud. This is from 2018. I mean all you have to do is type krassenstien grift in to google.

    Im not going to waste my time with the krassensteins, i suspect you are experiencing confirmation bias.
    So, you are saying the tweets and blog posts don't exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So, you are saying the tweets and blog posts don't exist?
    where did i say that can you quote it please. I'm saying the Krassenstiens are serial grifters who were involved in a multi-million pound fraud so you might not want to take their blogpost on medium as gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    where did i say that can you quote it please. I'm saying the Krassenstiens are serial grifters who were involved in a multi-million pound fraud so you might not want to take their blogpost on medium as gospel.
    You didn't even read it, so you obviously deny that what Tara Reade said existed. Oh, and I am not taking it as gospel, I just know that I am not as dismissive and ignorant about reality as you obviously are.

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    I only ask the Left the stop excusing Biden's action just because 'the Right are being hypocrites".

    "They ignored Trump's transgressions, therefore, we can ignore Biden's" is not a valid argument. Especially when 4 years were devoted to denouncing "grab them by the pussy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    I only ask the Left the stop excusing Biden's action just because 'the Right are being hypocrites".

    "They ignored Trump's transgressions, therefore, we can ignore Biden's" is not a valid argument. Especially when 4 years were devoted to denouncing "grab them by the pussy".
    I am not ignoring them, I am just saying, her story isn't very consistent. She didn't say anything for years, even praising Biden for 25 years, and then all of a sudden go schizo and start praising Putin and saying Biden assaulted her. Now she has changed her story about her leaving government like 3 times, and now has changed her story about the whole incident at least 4 times.

    Whereas with Blasey-Ford, she had the same story the entire time, and even had plenty of people that said she has said it for years. Now, you are going to say, so does Reade, but her "brother" has changed his story to coincide with hers, and she even has friends that are saying she is an attention seeker and that she is lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    I am not ignoring them, I am just saying, her story isn't very consistent. She didn't say anything for years, even praising Biden for 25 years, and then all of a sudden go schizo and start praising Putin and saying Biden assaulted her. Now she has changed her story about her leaving government like 3 times and now has changed her story about the whole incident at least 4 times.

    Whereas with Blasey-Ford, she had the same story the entire time and even had plenty of people that said she has said it for years. Now, you are going to say, so does Reade, but her "brother" has changed his story to coincide with hers, and she even has friends that are saying she is an attention seeker and that she is lying.
    If you look outside of Ford, Reade's behavior is typical of someone dealing with a high profile person. I'm not ready to accept her testimony as fact but I'm nowhere near denying it.

    Its typical for a victim to hide what happened to them, especially before the #MeToo movement due to ridicule and being called a liar. We see this with Trump accusers. it's typical for victims to repress or forget details, see Cosby. Its also typical for victims to give up seeking justice after being ignored/shamed, see Cosby. Reade isn't the first only person to say Biden has at least encroached on regular appropriate social norms. Some of his victims have forgiven him but do not deny he violated their space. Theres video, written, and oral testimony that backs all that up.

    When it comes to listening to victims, the #MeToo movement (which the Dems championed and lost s Senator for) we learned that victims do repress situations. We learned that they do suppress their incidents due to shame, supposed credibility, a multitude of societal issues, not wanted to be labeled a liar/slut/rabble-rouser. We've learned that victims have been shamed or coerced into accepting their incidents due to pressure/shame/credibility.

    Biden has a questionable and documented history of touching, feeling, and verbally violating the acceptable boundaries. He also allowed the shaming and degradation of Anita Hill for a proceeding that wasn't even partisan. I believe we owe it to every woman, no everyone, who has ever faced a situation where they felt violated by a person with more power than them to hear Reade out.]

    You're talking to someone who has written essays on blind acceptance of the #MeToo movement in comparison to false accusations from the 1940s/50/60s that got people who look like me lynched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    You're talking to someone who has written essays on blind acceptance of the #MeToo movement in comparison to false accusations from the 1940s/50/60s that got people who look like me lynched.
    OMG, you wrote an essay.

    HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WROTE AN ESSAY. HE'S CLEARLY RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    I only ask the Left the stop excusing Biden's action just because 'the Right are being hypocrites".

    "They ignored Trump's transgressions, therefore, we can ignore Biden's" is not a valid argument. Especially when 4 years were devoted to denouncing "grab them by the pussy".
    Sorry, but this is fucking bullshit. We're not "excusing Biden's actions" because Biden has merely been accused of something by someone with more holes in her story than a pair of fishnet stockings.

    We've been tirelessly pointing out that there is absolutely no investigative unit, press or police, that would take this case because of how unreliable of a witness that she is. We've been tirelessly pointing out that every time there are new statements or new facts that come to light, she changes her story yet again.

    This is typical GOP behavior for projection. Oh, Biden must grab women by the pussy because Trump grabs women by the pussy. Grand old projectionists. When you deal with a party of hypocritical cunts, you can only point out that fact as yet another problem with this entire fucking story.

    This is typical GOP behavior for moving the goalposts. Oh, I filed a complaint with the Senate Personnel committee. Oh wait, I mean I complained to the Senate personnel committee and there might not be a filed complaint. Oh he sexually harassed me. By sexually harassed me, he touched me in ways I thought were inappropriate. OMG, Biden is going to get the nomination from Bernie Sanders... Well, well, he stuck his fingers in my pussy.

    So quit hand waving all the other problems with Reade's foul fucking lies by trying to make it just about the hypocrisy angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    OMG, you wrote an essay.

    HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WROTE AN ESSAY. HE'S CLEARLY RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

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    Sorry, but this is fucking bullshit. We're not "excusing Biden's actions" because Biden has merely been accused of something by someone with more holes in her story than a pair of fishnet stockings.

    We've been tirelessly pointing out that there is absolutely no investigative unit, press or police, that would take this case because of how unreliable of a witness that she is. We've been tirelessly pointing out that every time there are new statements or new facts that come to light, she changes her story yet again.

    This is typical GOP behavior for projection. Oh, Biden must grab women by the pussy because Trump grabs women by the pussy. Grand old projectionists. When you deal with a party of hypocritical cunts, you can only point out that fact as yet another problem with this entire fucking story.

    This is typical GOP behavior for moving the goalposts. Oh, I filed a complaint with the Senate Personnel committee. Oh wait, I mean I complained to the Senate personnel committee and there might not be a filed complaint. Oh he sexually harassed me. By sexually harassed me, he touched me in ways I thought were inappropriate. OMG, Biden is going to get the nomination from Bernie Sanders... Well, well, he stuck his fingers in my pussy.

    So quit hand waving all the other problems with Reade's foul fucking lies by trying to make it just about the hypocrisy angle.
    There's been plenty of excuses for Biden just because the job is willing to look the other way in regards to their own clients. What they eat doesn't make the Left shit, nor should the Left lower its standards or its also hypocritical. The Left only validates the standards of its opps by saying "but you guys have a groper too!'

    If you guys are cool with that shit then so be it. I won't. Flip another Republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    There's been plenty of excuses for Biden just because the job is willing to look the other way in regards to their own clients. What they eat doesn't make the Left shit, nor should the Left lower its standards or its also hypocritical. The Left only validates the standards of its opps by saying "but you guys have a groper too!'

    If you guys are cool with that shit then so be it. I won't. Flip another Republican.
    The left hasn't lowered any standards. An accusation is made. The accusation gets vetted. People go to jail if the case is proven true. See Cosby and Weinstein and Epstein.

    Her claims were vetted. It's been found that she is bullshitting and is desperately changing her story every time more holes are poked into the current narrative.

    Lawyers with MeToo refused to work with her because she wasn't looking for justice she was looking for PR. Pulitzer prize journalist looked into her claims and found her not credible so avoided running with stories. So Reade went to a Bernie blogger.

    There is nothing hypocritical about pointing out the inconsistencies which prove she's a fucking liar. This has nothing to do with her having trauma from the incident causing her to misremember details or whatever psychoanalytical bullshit you want to believe. A couple years ago she was praising Biden.

    This woman is a quack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    The left hasn't lowered any standards. An accusation is made. The accusation gets vetted. People go to jail if the case is proven true. See Cosby and Weinstein and Epstein.

    Her claims were vetted. It's been found that she is bullshitting and is desperately changing her story every time more holes are poked into the current narrative.

    Lawyers with MeToo refused to work with her because she wasn't looking for justice she was looking for PR. Pulitzer prize journalist looked into her claims and found her not credible so avoided running with stories. So Reade went to a Bernie blogger.

    There is nothing hypocritical about pointing out the inconsistencies which prove she's a fucking liar. This has nothing to do with her having trauma from the incident causing her to misremember details or whatever psychoanalytical bullshit you want to believe. A couple years ago she was praising Biden.


    This woman is a quack.
    Everyone knows, as been one of the mantras of the Left, court cases mean jack shit. The #MeToo movement came about because court cases mean jack shit. If a culture perpetuates a wrong then the courts can do nothing for you. If you're referring to NYT, they have not treated Reade like other incidents that were politically advantageous or pretend they weren't all over Biden's previous trespasses just a year ago. The same charges against Reade are the exact charges citied to believe people who came out during the height of the #MeToo movement.

    A lesser evil is still evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    The left hasn't lowered any standards. An accusation is made. The accusation gets vetted. People go to jail if the case is proven true. See Cosby and Weinstein and Epstein.

    Her claims were vetted. It's been found that she is bullshitting and is desperately changing her story every time more holes are poked into the current narrative.

    Lawyers with MeToo refused to work with her because she wasn't looking for justice she was looking for PR. Pulitzer prize journalist looked into her claims and found her not credible so avoided running with stories. So Reade went to a Bernie blogger.

    There is nothing hypocritical about pointing out the inconsistencies which prove she's a fucking liar. This has nothing to do with her having trauma from the incident causing her to misremember details or whatever psychoanalytical bullshit you want to believe. A couple years ago she was praising Biden.

    This woman is a quack.
    If you want to defend Biden, then what you say is "These allegations have not been proven in a court of law. Innocent till proven guilty". It is very difficult to argue with that.

    You aren't doing that. You are trying to smear the alleged victim in public. You sound identical to the viciously creepy and weird apologists for Weinstein and Trump. You are using the standard tactics of rape apologists everywhere and exploiting the fact that no one recants an event from decades ago with perfect clarity whether it occurred or not. You are ignoring the fact the women was clearly very scared of Biden and claimed to receive death threats from his supporters.

    Don't you people have wives, daughters, sisters? This could be a member of your family being trashed like this publicly on a local level. Can't you at least treat this women with a modicum of respect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Everyone knows, as been one of the mantras of the Left, court cases mean jack shit.
    This is true. Unfortunately courts generally provide a much better approximation of justice than internet mob rule, for all the flaws with the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Everyone knows, as been one of the mantras of the Left, court cases mean jack shit. The #MeToo movement came about because court cases mean jack shit. If a culture perpetuates a wrong then the courts can do nothing for you. If you're referring to NYT, they have not treated Reade like other incidents that were politically advantageous or pretend they weren't all over Biden's previous trespasses just a year ago. The same charges against Reade are the exact charges citied to believe people who came out during the height of the #MeToo movement.

    A lesser evil is still evil.
    Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and Jeffery Epsteins lawyer would like an explanation on how exactly court cases are bullshit.

    Care to explain how NYT has treated Reade's story differently? Because they didn't report on it? Again, they didn't report on it because their journalists detected bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and Jeffery Epsteins lawyer would like an explanation on how exactly court cases are bullshit.

    Care to explain how NYT has treated Reade's story differently? Because they didn't report on it? Again, they didn't report on it because their journalists detected bullshit.
    Oh Christ the double-standards and hypocrisy with you people.......listen to yourself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinplinth View Post
    If you want to defend Biden, then what you say is "These allegations have not been proven in a court of law. Innocent till proven guilty".

    You aren't doing that. You are trying to smear the alleged victim in public. You sound identical to the viciously creepy and weird apologists for Weinstein and Trump. You are using the standard tactics of rape apologists everywhere and exploiting the fact that no one recants an event from decades ago with perfect clarity whether it occurred or not. You are ignoring the fact the women was clearly very scared of Biden and claimed to receive death threats from his supporters.

    Don't you people have wives, daughters, sisters? This could be a member of your family being trashed like this publicly on a local level. Can't you at least treat this women with a modicum of respect?
    I could ignore Biden's behavior if he did once and learned from it. Some people are ignorant and need to be forgiven and learn from their mistakes. But he did again, and again, and again, and again. For me that unacceptable for man who did it at an age I haven't even reached yet. Let's say Reade is lying. But what of the other women who said he inappropriately touched them without knowing this was his pattern behavior? What of the videos? What of him signing off on people against Anita Hill?

    I'm the only male of multiple sisters. I'm not about to just sign off on this guy being "friendly" with women because he is aware of his power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post

    Care to explain how NYT has treated Reade's story differently? Because they didn't report on it? Again, they didn't report on it because their journalists detected bullshit.
    NYT tried to bury the story as the sole judge, jury, and executioner, despite reporting on other incidents of Biden's misconduct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinplinth View Post

    This is true. Unfortunately courts generally provide a much better approximation of justice than internet mob rule, for all the flaws with the system.
    The Lefts MSM has shown it can't be trusted after Al Franken and Katie Hill.

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