1. #28821
    Quote Originally Posted by starlord View Post
    latest update from "decision desk hq" is trump 463 ahead in GA now.

    did PA stop for the night?

    the suspense is killing me.
    Pittsburg has stopped. but Philly is all night long. but GA has been doing drops in the hundreds so it'll be a little more frequent. PA usually does BIG 10k+ drops.

  2. #28822
    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Last time Republicans had introspection after losing an election it spawned the Tea Party and they decided they weren't bigoted enough and that's why they lost.
    And unfortunately it seems Trump in 2016 proved it in their minds and if he pulls off 2020 which is still possible just about will confirm it.

  3. #28823
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    A suspected attack on the voting location would have that impact on some
    It wasn't even close to successful. Dude was stopped on his way to carry it out.

  4. #28824
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I mean, yeah nowadays it is, but it's super interesting that you can actually trace the roots of the GOP all the way back to Crown Loyalists in the AmRev that essentially ended up pouting their way into accepting the U.S. was it's own country. I wish I could find the documentary on it I watch a few years back.
    Was bored at work and researched this again.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...he_War_of_1812 is probably what you saw about. The coasts of New England and such were on the verge of ruin and Federalists wanted to end the war. Just as they sent demands to end it to the president the war was already over but information didn't reach USA yet. With that they were branded as disloyal.

    You can trace GOP to Whig Party which was by Federalist Party by Hamilton that was supported by George Washington. Adams was a key player when Democratic-Republics split again.
    Democrats you can trace to Anti-Federalists and Thomas Jefferson. Jackson was the side of Democratic-Republics that became the current Democratic Party.

    At least there is nothing about crown loyalists anywhere in either partys history.

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    Most crown loyalists with money went to Canada or the Caribbean anyway. I doubt many even wanted to stay in the fledgling US and I doubt the US wanted that headache either.

  6. #28826
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    Yup, hes so losing Georgia and Pennsylvania. Dude needs a dictionary so he can look up the meaning of the word gracefully.
    ahahahahhahahahaha trump and gracefully your funny

  7. #28827
    Biden still running at 5:1 in Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Biden still running at 5:1 in Georgia.
    At this rate it'll flip before breakfast.

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    I guess clayton is done for the night. Not sure if they finished, and we're waiting for the big update, or if they'll continue tomorrow with whatever is left.

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    Like I said before I'm not American, so correct me if I'm wrong: if Biden wins (or vice versa but it isn't looking that way), Trump can claim fraud in certain states, if he has proof he can go to Supreme Court with it, and the appointed judge will be calling the result in favor of one candidate or the other, making the entire vote in that state obsolete?

    Is this an accurate assessment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    Like I said before I'm not American, so correct me if I'm wrong: if Biden wins (or vice versa but it isn't looking that way), Trump can claim fraud in certain states, if he has proof he can go to Supreme Court with it, and the appointed judge will be calling the result in favor of one candidate or the other, making the entire vote in that state obsolete?

    Is this an accurate assessment?
    No. Not unless there is clear evidence for fraud which there isn’t.

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    Non-American here but I've read reports the Secret Services have been contacted and on the way to Biden. Could this mean it's over and they know he's won?
    "If you are what you HAVE and you lose what you have, what then are you? But if you are what you ARE and you lose what you have, no man controls your destiny".

  13. #28833
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhyroth View Post
    Non-American here but I've read reports the Secret Services have been contacted and on the way to Biden. Could this mean it's over and they know he's won?
    where'd you hear that?

  14. #28834
    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    Like I said before I'm not American, so correct me if I'm wrong: if Biden wins (or vice versa but it isn't looking that way), Trump can claim fraud in certain states, if he has proof he can go to Supreme Court with it, and the appointed judge will be calling the result in favor of one candidate or the other, making the entire vote in that state obsolete?

    Is this an accurate assessment?
    Even if there was evidence of a fraud (there isn't), a judge would never invalidate legal, valid votes. They'd have to prove which ballots were fraudulent, and throw them out, and the result would be tabulated based on that.

  15. #28835
    Quote Originally Posted by hellhamster View Post
    Like I said before I'm not American, so correct me if I'm wrong: if Biden wins (or vice versa but it isn't looking that way), Trump can claim fraud in certain states, if he has proof he can go to Supreme Court with it, and the appointed judge will be calling the result in favor of one candidate or the other, making the entire vote in that state obsolete?

    Is this an accurate assessment?
    im no lawyer, but there is no fraud at the scale that would effect a presidential election. He also has no proof or evidence.

  16. #28836
    not sure if its been posted before but 1700 more ballots have been found in PA during post office sweeps:
    https://apple.news/ANFML72g-RE6Ymw1s8ua11Q

  17. #28837
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhyroth View Post
    Non-American here but I've read reports the Secret Services have been contacted and on the way to Biden. Could this mean it's over and they know he's won?
    Both candidates get secret service protection during the election, so he should have already had it. Might be beefing it up a bit in case nutters try to attack him.

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    GA Presidential Election Results - Biden takes the Lead

    Biden (D): 49.39.% ( 2,449,371 votes)
    Trump (R): 49.37% ( 2,448,454 votes)

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    Biden is ahead in Georgia.


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    Georgia is blue!

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