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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I think it's most likely at this point that Trump will switch to trying to flip electors and steal democracy the old fashioned way, good old corruption and theft.
    If Biden otherwise pulls of an electoral college victory, trump, in order to flip electors, would have to convince the then democrat-appointed electors of enough states to just vote for him instead.

    I find that hard to believe he’d accomplish. Even more so if Biden secures PA while maintaining GA/NV/AZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Direct from youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I think it's most likely at this point that Trump will switch to trying to flip electors and steal democracy the old fashioned way, good old corruption and theft.
    He can ask Bush for Advice.

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    fresh numbers from pennsylvania any minute, said CNN ....
    suspense is killing already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    If Biden otherwise pulls of an electoral college victory, trump, in order to flip electors, would have to convince the then democrat-appointed electors of enough states to just vote for him instead.

    I find that hard to believe he’d accomplish. Even more so if Biden secures PA while maintaining GA/NV/AZ.
    Faithless electors can come from any state. WA voted for Colin Powell, instead of Hillary, so the conservative flip... even in a very blue state... is not unprecedented. Although, that was a protest vote, not one swinging to opponent.

    Saying this... no fucking way he would dare... people will justifiably hit the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Faithless electors can come from any state. WA voted for Colin Powell, instead of Hillary, so the conservative flip... even in a very blue state... is not unprecedented. Although, that was a protest vote, not one swinging to opponent.

    Saying this... no fucking way he would dare... people will justifiably hit the streets.
    I think the number of electors whom the democrats selected who would then plausibly ever vote for trump “for the lulz” is probably... non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I think it's most likely at this point that Trump will switch to trying to flip electors and steal democracy the old fashioned way, good old corruption and theft.
    Trump is so loathed by Republican politicians behind closed doors that I seriously doubt he'll get any support here.

    He has no allies, thanks to his bullying style. Trump is vulnerable now and they won't hesitate to slide a knife into his back, especially as they look set to keep Senate control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I think the number of electors whom the democrats selected who would then plausibly ever vote for trump “for the lulz” is probably... non-existent.
    Oh totally... not this year... my example is more showing how arrogant democrats were in 2016.
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    Everyone should take the time to thank a black person. They have collectively saved our ass once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    fresh numbers from pennsylvania any minute, said CNN ....
    suspense is killing already
    They said "a few minutes" an hour ago, bleargh.


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    Their wololo is clearly weaker than the democrat one.
    Another version of that clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Everyone should take the time to thank a black person. They have collectively saved our ass once again.
    Isn’t it funny how the people we treat the worst have over and over again saved this country?

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    Stacey Abrams registered 800000 voters in Georgia. We owe her a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    He can ask Bush for Advice.
    Bush had a much easier time taking the election. In 2000, it came down to a single state, and Bush led in that state. All he had to do is end any outstanding litigation and recounts, and he was President.

    If Biden has all the states that he currently leads, Trump has to manage to flip two states that he trails in. If Biden takes PA as well (Which he probably will), Trump needs to flip three states through litigation. That is incredibly hard. Trump can allege voter fraud all he wants, but to flip a state he actually has to prove voter fraud in court. Even his own commission on voter fraud couldn't find any, and they had a much lower burden of proof, and were looking at lower scale.

    Just blocking late arriving ballots won't help, because Biden leads all these states without late arriving ballots. He has to actually get rid of votes that have already been counted, and that is very hard.

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    Isn’t it funny how the people we treat the worst have over and over again saved this country?
    White people are selfish assholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Everyone should take the time to thank a black person. They have collectively saved our ass once again.
    Bad take... no race shit please.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    White people are selfish assholes.
    God damn it cartman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    Trump is so loathed by Republican politicians behind closed doors that I seriously doubt he'll get any support here.

    He has no allies, thanks to his bullying style. Trump is vulnerable now and they won't hesitate to slide a knife into his back, especially as they look set to keep Senate control.
    Here's the thing, if the GOP stay's silent, or god forbid, backs Trump as he goes to war on democracy. We're in for some scary times. Like, this is it. This is the last stop on the Trump Train, the GOP stay on board for this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    They said "a few minutes" an hour ago, bleargh.
    20k coming in 10-15 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Faithless electors can come from any state. WA voted for Colin Powell, instead of Hillary, so the conservative flip... even in a very blue state... is not unprecedented. Although, that was a protest vote, not one swinging to opponent.

    Saying this... no fucking way he would dare... people will justifiably hit the streets.
    Assuming there are even states whose laws would permit such a thing, given the SCOTUS ruling on the subject, if faithless electors were to change the outcome of the election...man...I just don't see how there wouldn't be violence.

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    Gwinnett County in Georgia is supposed to push their remaining 4k votes in about half an hour, also per CNN.


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