Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Thepersona]

I’m sorry, I’m pretty sure that most kids know not to drink bleach. Trump questioning as something doctors need to look into, is absurd.

My mom taught me not to drink clorox/any other disinfectant by age 4.
I tought that the dotard would know that by the same sge

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How do you think Biden became the nominee?

You are terrible at this. Tell us more about how you are going to take a trip to the US and vote for Trump.

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C'mon guys. Stop playing with the burner accounts. You know they'll get banned. It clutters up the forums.

As much as i dont like it, biden got the nomination precisely because he was, by most democtrsts, the safest and surest candidate to win, when paired against the dotard.

[Levelfive]

Well, yeah... you were banned for a couple of days. “Not having replied” is a fun spin on couldn’t.

Edit: It’s May 4th and you got banned on Friday, May first... your “nearly a week” is literally the weekend. lol

Uhm... his answered seemed confident on Friday...

I think their solutions is watching all of these conspiracy theories fall apart.

It's not even the biggest lie of the three he told in that single sentence. I actually laughed out loud.

[Hobb]

Find someone who can beat Trump decisively. Someone who people are willing to vote for.

Considering Biden has won the nomination with enough delegates to be uncontested, I think your question has already been answered.

[TACOshake]

It's like one candidate squandered; Name BRand Recognition, 4 year head start, hundreds of millions of dollars.

To win over; Europeans, YouTube commenters, and a bunch of other people that dont vote.


Dem voters really dodged a bullet there.

[Thepersona]

A decision that we'll most likely have to read many articles and political analyses about, for years to come, about how everyone who voted for him now feels wrong and remorseful and "how could we have been so stupid?" Just like happened with Clinton.

I wonder if Biden will also be writing a book about losing the elections.

I'm already going to invest in the "Biden lost, get over it!"-meme. I'm gonna be rich.

I mean, if the election have a significant number of people like you (ie: political arsonists) then yes. That will happen. If the voters act like the adults they are, then no, Biden should trounce the dotard.

[Edge-]

A decision that we'll most likely have to read many articles and political analyses about, for years to come, about how everyone who voted for him now feels wrong and remorseful and "how could we have been so stupid?" Just like happened with Clinton.

Clinton was the right choice at the time in 2016. Biden is the right choice in the time at 2020. That's what voters determined, and we don't get the benefit of hindsight until afterwards.

Can't blame voters if the other candidates, not just Sanders, didn't present better alternatives.

I wonder if Biden will also be writing a book about losing the elections.

Where would he get such an idea from?

I'm already going to invest in the the "Biden lost, get over it!"-meme. I'm gonna be rich.

Memes, contrary to popular belief, are not legal tender. Nor are they how one votes in US elections.

[Felya]

I'm already going to invest in the "Biden lost, get over it!"-meme. I'm gonna be rich.

How do you invest in a meme?

[TACOshake]

Damn shame to see so many people see Trump as totally acceptable.

Trump in his private voice...


Trump admin "is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of cases and deaths from coronavirus over the next several weeks, reaching about 3,000 daily deaths on June 1... nearly double from the current level of about 1,750."

[Lenonis]

As much as i dont like it, biden got the nomination precisely because he was, by most democtrsts, the safest and surest candidate to win, when paired against the dotard.

To add to this he's popular with a demographic (old people and older minority people) who reliably vote. The problem with Bernie's base is although they are super enthusiastic and often internet activists they don't show up to vote.

The one thing I'll say about a Biden candidacy is I'm more confident he'll have a reliable voter bloc. If Sanders was the nominee I'd be concerned that the youth vote would continue to be all talk, no action.

Which, frankly, gets as back to the core issue -- the progressive movement just isn't popular enough to win by themselves. We don't have two equally sized factions duking it out in the party.

I was personally hopefully that Warren would find that sweet middle ground to pull from both sides but it turns out that wasn't viable either.

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I'm already going to invest in the "Biden lost, get over it!"-meme. I'm gonna be rich.

I'm interested to see what your take is if Biden wins. Whether you'll admit to being horribly and completely wrong or if you'll twist into some variation of "well I never said what you think I said."

[Felya]

Which, frankly, gets as back to the core issue -- the progressive movement just isn't popular enough to win by themselves. We don't have two equally sized factions duking it out in the party.

Bernie did worse this year... 4 more and there will be no more progressives...

[SAY HER NAME]

How do you invest in a meme?

I think its pussy talk for "I'm not going to put money where my mouth is"

[Thepersona]

To add to this he's popular with a demographic (old people and older minority people) who reliably vote. The problem with Bernie's base is although they are super enthusiastic and often internet activists they don't show up to vote.

The one thing I'll say about a Biden candidacy is I'm more confident he'll have a reliable voter bloc. If Sanders was the nominee I'd be concerned that the youth vote would continue to be all talk, no action.

Which, frankly, gets as back to the core issue -- the progressive movement just isn't popular enough to win by themselves. We don't have two equally sized factions duking it out in the party.

I was personally hopefully that Warren would find that sweet middle ground to pull from both sides but it turns out that wasn't viable either.

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I hope that with biden conceding policy positions to the sanders camp, and with the election of a decent VP candidate (please Warren, let it be you), progressives go out and vote.

[cubby]

Damn shame to see so many people see Trump as totally acceptable.

Trump in his private voice...


Trump admin "is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of cases and deaths from coronavirus over the next several weeks, reaching about 3,000 daily deaths on June 1... nearly double from the current level of about 1,750."

That's our Team Deplorable. 2k american deaths a day is great as long as he gets his pressers.

[Lenonis]

Bernie did worse this year... 4 more and there will be no more progressives...

I stated from the beginning this was the time for Bernie to pass the torch to a successor and push them as the nominee. Bernie himself now carries some of the hard feelings from 2016 and on top of that his age was undoubtedly a factor for some. Just like it is for Biden, just like it is for Trump. Many people are uncomfortable with the idea of geriatric leaders of our country.

But all that aside he came from relatively obscurity to be an exciting new candidate for 2016. He didn't get to ride that wave this year. People knew who he was and thus a bit of that shine has worn off. I fully expect Trump to have the same issues where that newness and outsider badge you can wear to feel exciting is now gone.

[Levelfive]

To add to this he's popular with a demographic (old people and older minority people) who reliably vote. The problem with Bernie's base is although they are super enthusiastic and often internet activists they don't show up to vote.

The one thing I'll say about a Biden candidacy is I'm more confident he'll have a reliable voter bloc. If Sanders was the nominee I'd be concerned that the youth vote would continue to be all talk, no action.

Which, frankly, gets as back to the core issue -- the progressive movement just isn't popular enough to win by themselves. We don't have two equally sized factions duking it out in the party.

I was personally hopefully that Warren would find that sweet middle ground to pull from both sides but it turns out that wasn't viable either.

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I'm interested to see what your take is if Biden wins. Whether you'll admit to being horribly and completely wrong or if you'll twist into some variation of "well I never said what you think I said."

I doubt the outcome is relevant to Rochana. His assignment is to turn the conversation back to Biden at all costs, with facially absurd Trump comparisons and asinine youtube videos. Division. Chaos. Benefit.

[cubby]

I hope that with biden conceding policy positions to the sanders camp, and with the election of a decent VP candidate (please Warren, let it be you), progressives go out and vote.

I agree with your point about conceding adapting some Sanders' policy position. Would be interesting if it were Warren.

On that note, if we didn't know it was going to be a woman, I would say Warren would be a good choice. But there are other, better candidates. If we're going to get a woman VP, let's get someone who represents even more diversity while we're at it.

Warren would be a terrific Senate Majority Leader (talk about fingers crossed). She would also be a fantastic Secretary of Treasury. Someone mentioned Harris (CA) as AG - again, another fantastic choice.

[Lenonis]

I doubt the outcome is relevant to Rochana. His assignment is to turn the conversation back to Biden at all costs, with facially absurd Trump comparisons and asinine youtube videos. Division. Chaos. Benefit.

I do wonder about the "progressives" who really want to see the world burn...what will they do if Biden wins? Not only does it mean they don't get to see the world burn but it also means they have to admit that their particular brand of "progressivism" has been completely rebuked by the electorate. I wonder how will they reconcile with a Biden presidency? Will they just full on join the Trump base in sabotage and conspiracy or will they calm their rage and start pushing for their agenda in a constructive manner?

Just a side note -- I'm obviously not talking about Trumpster pretending to be progressives here.

[Thepersona]

I agree with your point about conceding adapting some Sanders' policy position. Would be interesting if it were Warren.

On that note, if we didn't know it was going to be a woman, I would say Warren would be a good choice. But there are other, better candidates. If we're going to get a woman VP, let's get someone who represents even more diversity while we're at it.

Warren would be a terrific Senate Majority Leader (talk about fingers crossed). She would also be a fantastic Secretary of Treasury. Someone mentioned Harris (CA) as AG - again, another fantastic choice.

You have a point. I'd add Sanders as secretary of health, just to make the start of the transition to M4A. But this is a pet peeve.

[Thepersona]

I do wonder about the "progressives" who really want to see the world burn...what will they do if Biden wins? Not only does it mean they don't get to see the world burn but it also means they have to admit that their particular brand of "progressivism" has been completely rebuked by the electorate. I wonder how will they reconcile with a Biden presidency? Will they just full on join the Trump base in sabotage and conspiracy or will they calm their rage and start pushing for their agenda in a constructive manner?

Just a side note -- I'm obviously not talking about Trumpster pretending to be progressives here.

I mean, there's a wing of the left that is all about accelerationism. Electing shittier and shittier capitalist pigs to make a revolution inevitable. Now, i'm interested in that (the revolution part) but i think that making life miserable for decades is not worth it.

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Remember those black bloc riots when Obama was president?

I think that is probably the direction in which you should search for should this scenario which you describe occur.

So sabotage and conspiracy it is.

[Lenonis]

Remember those black bloc riots when Obama was president?

I think that is probably the direction in which you should search for should this scenario which you describe occur.

I feel pretty confident that any scenario you believe in is just about as far away from what is likely as we can get. Internet slacktivism doesn't make for riots. But please, share with us your latest YouTube video of real truth.

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I mean, there's a wing of the left that is all about accelerationism. Electing shittier and shittier capitalist pigs to make a revolution inevitable. Now, i'm interested in that (the revolution part) but i think that making life miserable for decades is not worth it.

Yeah, I don't get that part. Burning down your house doesn't give you a mansion in return. It gives you a smoldering heap of rubble.

The wing of the progressive movement that just wants to cut to the front of the line isn't willing to even consider any sort of incremental approach -- while ignoring that the broad swatches of differing political views make a "revolution" nearly impossible. The leap from "we can't muster enough support to get a candidate through a primary" to "we will gain enough support to basically overthrow the government" is just mind boggling.

That all being said I'm admittedly much more of a pragmatist so idealism is a bit foreign to me at times.