Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Kaleredar]

Maybe maybe not, but the tension in certain states/cities is getting bad.

Is it? I know there are some trumpkins skulking around some ballot counting places (troubling, to be sure, but nothing that can't be handled.) I've not really heard of any actual... simmering angst... throughout the major cities.

[passingthrew]

Turned it off. Hopefully in the morning tomorrow they call it. Philadelphia will have no further updates on its vote totals tonight. so I doubt anyone will call PA.

[Rozz]

Is it? I know there are some trumpkins skulking around some ballot counting places (troubling, to be sure, but nothing that can't be handled.) I've not really heard of any actual... simmering angst... throughout the major cities.

Besides protests, some people were arrested (reported by a few here earlier), there was a bomb threat, and one of the GA workers went into hiding bc someone made up a claim they tossed a ballot. These are just some of the things I've seen on the NYTs within the last few days and other things posted here. i worry for the workers and hope they are able to get an out before things get worse.

[Ripster42]

yes. he needed about 59% of remaining votes but he's getting closer to 52% now

I think you're the one who linked that scraper yesterday right? Just wanna say, thanks again.

[beanman12345]

bwahahaha they're worried about the hatch act now that's hilarious they're all going down.

[Ausr]

I have a feeling that any Trump supporter claiming they regret supporting him (if they voted for him the 2nd time) is akin to a criminal regretting getting caught, but not doing the actual crime.

Months from now? I could buy that. It takes time to shake off that cultist brainwashing and understand how bad the past four years was. It certainly can't happen overnight.

"I was just following orders" said the Nazi guards.

[kaelleria]

Are there Votes from blue counties left, right?

PS another voter dump, it was split 50/50

It should be more blue yes.

There are 72k EV left in Maricopa and 15k provisionals left.

[Kaleredar]

Besides protests, some people were arrested (reported by a few here earlier), there was a bomb threat, and one of the GA workers went into hiding bc someone made up a claim they tossed a ballot. These are just some of the things I've seen on the NYTs within the last few days and other things posted here. i worry for the workers and hope they are able to get an out before things get worse.

A few sporadic cases, but I've not seen evidence of anything massive. Again, those few sporadic cases have been troubling, but law enforcement seems to be on top of it for now.

Hopefully they step up protection in and around the poll worker locations. Law enforcement seems to be having none of this threatening Trumpkin nonsense (as it should be) and from what I've seen, Trumpkins usually cower away from Law enforcement if they're not being coddled by them.

[Breccia]

Does Trump have any chance of winning at this point?

Not honestly, no.

His remaining choices are all dishonest. Finding a bullshit reason, dragging it out in court, hitting the deadlines and having GOP state legislature choose a victor -- him -- would basically require the dismantling of democracy while everyone was watching. Given Trump's history, I completely expect him to try this. In fact, based on the lawsuits he's working on, he is trying this.

But, so far at least, there doesn't seem to any traction on that small hill. Bone spurs don't offer much traction.

And of course:

Report: Trump Plans to Barricade Himself in the Oval Office and Refuse to Come Out If Biden Wins

There's this.

Trump might be legitimately too insane to accept defeat. Or, he knows what will happen to him the second he leaves WH protection. His family and acting staff know they're toast without him. And the Party of Trump made their choice far too long ago to change it now -- and their voters are dying off faster than they'd hoped. Anyone waiting for Republicans to do the right thing and block Trump have clearly not been paying attention these last four years. Remember that time he got caught blackmailing a country for dirt on Biden, there were zero consequences, and he used said dirt against Biden?

Biden may very well have the votes, and normally, that'd be enough. These are not normal times. And I'm tired of saying "there's no way even Trump could be that XXX" only for Trump to be that XXX. Evil, stupid, immoral, criminal, take your pick.

And then, of course, there's the increasing risk of violence. For example

BBC has noted bomb threats in Philadelphia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/elec...-2020-54786937

So you know what? I'm done saying "things are going well, things are going to be fine". I'm done assuming that half the American people are going to act like they value decency and honor. And I'm definitely done with everything Trump touching burning to the ground. You guys can have faith in "it always worked this way before, it will continue working this way in the future". I've had four years too many of that just not being the case.

Look, I'm not denying that things are looking good, right now. But you know what's better than a story that looks like it's going to have a good ending?

One that actually does.

And then ends.

[Rozz]

A few sporadic cases, but I've not seen evidence of anything massive. Again, those few sporadic cases have been troubling, but law enforcement seems to be on top of it for now.

Hopefully they step up protection in and around the poll worker locations. Law enforcement seems to be having none of this threatening Trumpkin nonsense (as it should be) and from what I've seen, Trumpkins usually cower away from Law enforcement if they're not being coddled by them.

That's my hope as well. I just crave release from this madness

[Thepersona]

That's my hope as well. I just crave release from this madness

I hope the redhats dont try to shoot the poll stations

[ProudSecularHumanist]

I love how the Lincoln project choose to ignore that their beloved Reagan ended the Fairness Doctrine, which removal partly led to the polarized state of media and propagandalike state of Fox News and other rightwing news in particular.

A 'real' republican president ended the law which would have prevented the spreading of misinformation and outright lies which plague certain media outlets.
Ever since Nixon truth and decency hold no value for most Republican party members, in fact it has only gone downhill from his time onward.
There is a straight line from him to W Bush 'weapons of mass destruction in Iraq' to Trump.
Trump is not an anomaly for the Republican party, merely the most extreme form it's current 50 year old path have led to.

If they choose to ignore or be blind to the fact that the election of Trump and his cadre of sycophants are latest expressions of what began with Nixon,and dont analyze the past with critical eyes.
How will they then ever be able to effect any changes regarding the Republican party if they arent honest with the process which led to its current state? Gerrymandering for example is as we know not a new thing.

[Kaleredar]

That's my hope as well. I just crave release from this madness

I'd say let the poll workers go home for the night, then call the election results if they're (and I hope that they are) definitive enough.

However, they still have to count every vote regardless (which will take days more,) so that doesn't quite remedy the problem of removing them from danger completely. However, if it's called definitively in Biden's favor I'd imagine it'd dishearten the large number of Trump supporters that would be protesting, diminishing the number of people law enforcement would have to corral and monitor.

[beanman12345]

"I was just following orders" said the Nazi guards.

The hardcore trump supporters are no where to be found outside theo in another thread. Concern trolls here and there but mostly gone too. You just know if trump was winning they'd be swarming this thread like they were on election night when trump claimed he won.

[Felya]

The hardcore trump supporters are no where to be found outside theo in another thread.

I found a few of them:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...hread/page2853

But, gots nothing to say in that thread... /shrug

[Breccia]

bwahahaha they're worried about the hatch act now that's hilarious they're all going down.

Funny thought. But the flaw is
1) the Office of the President is immune
2) Trump can pardon everyone
3) There is no state version.

The whole "pardon presumes guilt" won't do anything useful here. Oh, and don't expect Trump to leave office without pardoning everyone he hasn't turned on yet, and also himself.

I'm interested in those NDAs he forced everyone to sign. I don't think Biden can pardon those -- I think those are civil matters. But man, do I want to see what's lurking behind those never-before-issued forms.

[kaelleria]

Add another 5k to Biden from Pittsburg.

[beanman12345]

Funny thought. But the flaw is
1) the Office of the President is immune
2) Trump can pardon everyone
3) There is no state version.

The whole "pardon presumes guilt" won't do anything useful here. Oh, and don't expect Trump to leave office without pardoning everyone he hasn't turned on yet, and also himself.

I'm interested in those NDAs he forced everyone to sign. I don't think Biden can pardon those -- I think those are civil matters. But man, do I want to see what's lurking behind those never-before-issued forms.

It's the reason you aren't seeing any trump surrogates in the white house in the news last few days. Legal is concerned about Hatch act.

[Slirith]

Really hope Trump doesn't pull a Robert Budd Dwyer

[Thepersona]

PA now at 28K