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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    So the VP gavels in the session, then cedes the floor to a Senator (typically the majority leader) to run the show.

    I'd really like to see Harris just not recognize McConnell when opening the session.
    In practice practice that what happens but the VP isn't not obligated to hand off the gavel and can take it back whenever they want.

    The VP sets the agenda, is the decider of points of order, and interprets Senate rules.

    The Senate can override the presiding officer through vote, which is where the majority leaders implied power comes from as the acting leader of their party within the Senate. So the presiding officer could set an agenda but the majority leader who gets to sit on committees can kill stuff there OR depending on how strong party lines are can overrule the presiding officer by vote.

    Example someone makes a point of order. - the majority leader for instance . The VP can deny that point of order. The majority leader can issue a rebuttal by having their party mates back the majority leader with a simple majority, thus overriding the presiding officer. So you can see how the VP might get tired playing parliamentary procedures and spend them time and effort with the executive branch.

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    @Skroe, @GennGreymane, and so many others that are no longer with us.... thank you for your shitposting. I hope that you can see this now, and wherever you are, smile that the orange bastard is out.
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    The next four years of calling people out on their "Biden Derangement Syndrome" are gonna be fun :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    dont get too excited. electoral college can still change things.
    Not at this point it can't. This isn't like 2000 where a few hundred votes in a single state decided things.

    Trump would need to find thousands (or tens of thousands) of votes in multiple states.

    And his team is so incompetent that they're booking press conferences in junkyard parking lots instead of hotels by mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    As much as I hate the EC, it wont. There are now 20 more votes than the 270 needed. In the span of every presidential election, only 24 electors have cast a deviant vote for the other candidate barring the death of their original nominee. Now, I would be right there with you if, say, he was exactly at 270. But they are doing a recount in Georgia and that should go to Biden also. With him being so far ahead, there is no way the EC will change things. If they did this time around, there would be a huge backlash since that would be Well over 30 EC ignoring the people.
    People also aren’t aware that states don’t just have a pool of electors that they tap every election to hopefully vote for the person that won the state.

    Each party appoints their own electors. meaning the EC vote for each state is then cast by members of the party of whichever candidate won.

    Which means a large number of democrat-appointed electors would just have to arbitrarily decide to vote for Trump.

    Which is not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Actually it does. It starts with the guy on top and not with the people.
    I believe you're confusing dictatorship with democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    The most alarming thing is that Trump got so many votes in the first place to challenge Biden, a sad day for the USA for sure.
    a sad day? okay.

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    While I doubt it happens it would be nice to see Trump have his sylvanas moment where he shits all over the republican party and his supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    dont get too excited. electoral college can still change things.
    Not exactly. The states in red are where faithless electors are illegal and SCOTUS says those states are allowed to punish their faithless voters in accordance to the state's laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by passingthrew View Post
    While I doubt it happens it would be nice to see Trump have his sylvanas moment where he shits all over the republican party and his supporters.
    He’s kind of been doing this. He’s been Attacking Fox News for a few weeks now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    a sad day? okay.
    I get their sentiment. This should have been a much larger blowout to prove America is better than Trump. Instead Trump got a larger number of people to vote for him than he did in 2016 and it took several days for it to be called instead of just several hours.

    I'm beyond ecstatic that Biden has won (despite the "legal" fuckery that's going to be happening in the next week or so) and we should be celebrating that, but we shouldn't forget that this election was also proof that there is a LOT of fucking work to do to both clean up his mess and try to ensure it never happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I get their sentiment. This should have been a much larger blowout to prove America is better than Trump. Instead Trump got a larger number of people to vote for him than he did in 2016 and it took several days for it to be called instead of just several hours.

    I'm beyond ecstatic that Biden has won (despite the "legal" fuckery that's going to be happening in the next week or so) and we should be celebrating that, but we shouldn't forget that this election was also proof that there is a LOT of fucking work to do to both clean up his mess and try to ensure it never happens again.
    I don't get the sentiment at all. 4 years ago, was a sad day. we've had a lot of cleaning up for 200+ years. Today is the opposite of sad day,.

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    It's a joyous moment, but I can't help but think of all the suffering and death we had to endure just to get to this point. So I can think of no more appropriate track to celebrate the Orange Man melting into a puddle of rage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    But the coming months will be comedy for all the rats jumping ship.
    Yeah, not the first time that happens.

    The secret police in East Germany had at the end 1.7 million informants and employees within 17 million citizens. You get another impression talking to people after '89. There will be a fuckton of "Americans" who'll go like "nah I wore the hat ironically, never liked the guy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    The most alarming thing is that Trump got so many votes in the first place to challenge Biden, a sad day for the USA for sure.
    Yes, it's kind of sad. But also keep in mind that the US population is is about 331 million people.

    Even mustering all his supporters, that's only about 21% of the population.

    Yeah, you could call out all the people who didn't vote for being complicit, indifferent, or just cynical. But let's not categorize anything close to a majority of Americans as actually supporting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I get their sentiment. This should have been a much larger blowout to prove America is better than Trump. Instead Trump got a larger number of people to vote for him than he did in 2016 and it took several days for it to be called instead of just several hours.

    I'm beyond ecstatic that Biden has won (despite the "legal" fuckery that's going to be happening in the next week or so) and we should be celebrating that, but we shouldn't forget that this election was also proof that there is a LOT of fucking work to do to both clean up his mess and try to ensure it never happens again.
    One step at a time. A Biden victory is that first step. Tying up the senate is a pretty big leap, but that’s next up. And hopefully Biden and the democrats mobilize themselves to descend on Georgia to register and encourage as many people to vote as possible over the next few months. Pull out all the stops.


    Also, they were responding to a poster named “TJ.” I’d be supremely suspicious of their attempts to deflate a Biden victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It's a joyous moment, but I can't help but think of all the suffering and death we had to endure just to get to this point. So I can think of no more appropriate track to celebrate the Orange Man melting into a puddle of rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Right now, it is looking like Biden is going to win. However, I will not be surprised if it ends up in the courts. Still may not make any difference however. It is not going to be easy for the Trump team to prove any cheating.

    If Biden wins, I will be disappointed of course, but not surprised. But I will recognize him as our President, while at the same time, disagreeing with his policies. And I should be referring to him as our President if he does win come Jan.19, 2021.
    LOL tool won't even wait till the policies are released to proclaim he is going to disagree with them....

    most of his policies will save his socialist payments and benefits as well give him even more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So wait I've been out of it.

    Biden appears to have won.
    Esper resigned because he disagreed with Trump.
    DeVos just got fired.
    Meadows and multiple other WH staffers have covid and were spreading it through the west wing for days, keeping their infection secret.

    People are losing their minds over Biden winning, either in a good or bad way.

    Am I missing anything?
    ok, wait, when did Esper resign? I thought he just made the letter, but never handed it
    and when was Devos fired?

    Edit: forgot its been an hour since I refreshed, so apologies if this was all explained on the pages between the quote and this post
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