1. #33061
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    At this point, If I was Biden, I would work from camp david for the first few months of the administration. empty the entire whitehouse of people for a GOOD long time to make sure any trace is long dead. I don't think anyone in the administration goes to camp david so it should be safe work environment. Really they need to is tear down the whole white house since the stain of the trump corruption will forever taint it, but that's not gonna happen.
    Definitely need to be fumigated, the smell of Fast Food, Spray Tan, and BO is probably pretty bad in the rooms his frequents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You mean 279? Or are we still pretending that PA hasn't been called? The only state that hasn't been called is GA, which either pushes Biden up to 306 or narrow Trump's loss 290:233
    I thought NC hadn't been called yet either? Granted it seems to go to Trump, but still.

  3. #33063
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Every Trump supporter would strongly disagree with you.

    Thanks for proving my point that slogans aren't some uber-sophisticated method of boiling down broad, complex policy positions into a few words that contain volumes of meaning.

    Slogans are intentionally vague, that's the point. People fill in the details with whatever they want to.
    Well I guess we should totally take Trump supporters at their word when they tell us that Trump is totally not a racist and they're not supporting him because of his racist policies and rhetoric. Makes sense. I'm sure the fact that they're constantly waving Confederate flags around is just their pride for the South even though they do not and have never lived there. Definitely just some innocent non-racist Trump supporting people, nothing to see here. When people tell you they're not a racist despite their words and actions, we should definitely just take their word for it.

  4. #33064
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    What litigation? All the cases I've heard about have been literally thrown out for lack of evidence. Admittedly, there may be some I'm not aware of, I can't pretend I keep track of all of the ones Trump's team is throwing around.

    Also, recounts in most states won't happen unless Trump pays for them because the difference in votes is greater than that needed for an automatic recount. And as far as I know, he doesn't really have the funding to do so, as it would cost millions of dollars. We'll have to wait and see though as the deadlines to request them haven't passed yet.
    And just to add on your post, the website he is using for gathering funds, specifically stated that 50% of their donations aren't going to these recounts or litigation, they are going to the debts that he accrued the last few months of his campaign. Specifically the bus companies that he didn't pay for his followers and stranded them at the venues after they were bussed to them, in the cold, or heat.

  5. #33065
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I believe it has pretty much across the board. It's going to Trump, GA is still outstanding.
    Did some digging looks Like decision desk HQ called it but can't find anyone else. But no reason to really doubt them, so yeah GA only one outstanding.

  6. #33066
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I believe it has pretty much across the board. It's going to Trump, GA is still outstanding.
    I would be extremely surprised if Georgia changes from going to Biden. He's 15k votes ahead. Trump won Michigan by 10k in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Well I guess we should totally take Trump supporters at their word when they tell us that Trump is totally not a racist and they're not supporting him because of his racist policies and rhetoric. Makes sense.
    Never said we should. But the reality is that slogans mean different things to different people based on their preconceived notions and biases.

    He says "MAGA" - Trump supporters hear restoring American greatness. They hear a focus on American jobs and bringing back manufacturing. They hear the restoration of "tradition" to this country. They hear whatever it is that they want to.

    He says "MAGA" - Trump opponents hear returning to Americas racist roots. They hear a return to women being "homemakers" and a loss of women's control over their reproductive health. They hear xenophobia. They hear whatever it is they want to hear.

    What "MAGA" actually means is irrelevant, because it has no inherent or implicit meaning.

    I'll repeat myself. That's. The. Fuckin. Point. Of. Slogans.

  8. #33068
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    That is because RCP is fucking retarded. They post bullshit from retarded right wing sources like the Federalist and other things on their website.
    RCP is a joke. Anyone who thinks the Federalist is a reputed outlet needs a sense check.

  9. #33069
    I called the race on Wednesday morning. News networks are really slow.

    Biden will win AZ by around 10k votes. Possibly more if Pima comes through like I thought it will.
    Biden will win PA by around 100k votes.

    I undershot in Georgia (I thought he'd win by 3k... Clearly that was wrong).

  10. #33070
    Arizona Election Results so far.

    Biden - 1,655,192
    Trump - 1,642, 379
    Jorgensen - 50,636
    Blank (did not choose a presidential candidate) - 34,685

    Total remaining votes between 16,000 - 17,000. Biden's current lead 12,813.
    Last edited by Rasulis; 2020-11-11 at 10:08 PM.

  11. #33071
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Never said we should. But the reality is that slogans mean different things to different people based on their preconceived notions and biases.

    He says "MAGA" - Trump supporters hear restoring American greatness. They hear a focus on American jobs and bringing back manufacturing. They hear the restoration of "tradition" to this country. They hear whatever it is that they want to.

    He says "MAGA" - Trump opponents hear returning to Americas racist roots. They hear a return to women being "homemakers" and a loss of women's control over their reproductive health. They hear xenophobia. They hear whatever it is they want to hear.

    What "MAGA" actually means is irrelevant, because it has no inherent or implicit meaning.

    I'll repeat myself. That's. The. Fuckin. Point. Of. Slogans.
    Trump supporters hear restoring American greatness back to the time when women and minorities had less rights. They hear a focus on immigration policies to supposedly restore manufacturing jobs to them that immigrants have supposedly stolen from them. They hear the restoration of Christian "tradition" to this country. If you don't think Trump supporters know what he means when he says this and just make it what they want to mean, then you have to assume they are telling the truth when they say they think Trump isn't a racist, and that they're not racist for supporting him and his racist policies.

    dog whis·tle
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    a subtly aimed political message which is intended for, and can only be understood by, a particular group.
    "dog-whistle issues such as immigration and crime"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You got caught pushing lies, control yourself.
    I thought they called it for Biden previously. My bad. I was mistaken and immediately admitted my mistake, I was not intentionally lying. But, that said, I'm not surprised that such "nuances" elude you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Arizona Election Results so far.

    Biden - 1,655,192
    Trump - 1,642, 379
    Jorgensen - 50,636
    Blank (did not choose a presidential candidate) - 34,685

    Total remaining votes between 16,000 - 17,000. Biden's current lead 12,813.
    Wow! That's razor thin!
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  13. #33073
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    I called the race on Wednesday morning. News networks are really slow.

    Biden will win AZ by around 10k votes. Possibly more if Pima comes through like I thought it will.
    Biden will win PA by around 100k votes.

    I undershot in Georgia (I thought he'd win by 3k... Clearly that was wrong).
    Also note the recount level in AZ is stupidly low like 200ish votes low so unless trump does amazingly well in the next mericopa drop or biden does really bad in the next pima drop trump is not going to win he has not been hitting his numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Wow! That's razor thin!
    That's hardly razor-thin.
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    Why do you guys keep feeding TexaRules alt account? You know he isn't speaking in good faith at all.
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  16. #33076
    Where have all the Trafalgar Group apologists gone? Trump was supposed to win 294 EC votes?



    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Why do you guys keep feeding TexaRules alt account? You know he isn't speaking in good faith at all.
    Which one is his alt account?

  17. #33077
    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    I thought they called it for Biden previously. My bad. I was mistaken and immediately admitted my mistake, I was not intentionally lying. But, that said, I'm not surprised that such "nuances" elude you.

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    Wow! That's razor thin!
    To be expected in Arizona. The interesting part is that if Trump did not piss off McCain's supporters, those 34,865 that left their presidential choice blank probably would have voted for him.

  18. #33078
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Which one is his alt account?
    DocSavageFan

    Caught them both posting Side by Side on the Hill before. Not 100% if they are alts but if not, they definitely liked to post in the same spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    Also note the recount level in AZ is stupidly low like 200ish votes low so unless trump does amazingly well in the next mericopa drop or biden does really bad in the next pima drop trump is not going to win he has not been hitting his numbers.
    AZ recount should be <0.1%, not the 200 votes. That threshold is about 3300 votes difference.
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  20. #33080
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    I called the race on Wednesday morning. News networks are really slow.

    Biden will win AZ by around 10k votes. Possibly more if Pima comes through like I thought it will.
    Biden will win PA by around 100k votes.

    I undershot in Georgia (I thought he'd win by 3k... Clearly that was wrong).
    You did a nice job! This place saved my sanity.

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