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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    GOP is blocking 1.6 billion to women persecuting people like Biden, while Biden cosponsored the bill and has it as his 100 day priority. The money allocated by Biden can then be used by all Biden and Trump accusers. Why is Biden not afraid?
    Also, Biden said pretty much "yeah, investigate, and i'll cooperate". This is not comparable by any means to what the GOP and his goons are doing, but for the dotard followers, that doesnt matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Also, Biden said pretty much "yeah, investigate, and i'll cooperate". This is not comparable by any means to what the GOP and his goons are doing, but for the dotard followers, that doesnt matter.
    Yeah, one of the reasons Reade likely had issues finding a lawyer, is the cost. Something that GOP is blocking... its worth it to vote Biden, because he is not just willing... he co sponsored funding for women to persecute people like him self. Trump and GOP refuse...

    Her story changed when Biden said to reveal records. Why won’t Trump reveal all of his NDAs? How about his taxes?
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    She also claimed to be a lawyer.

    Really odd she couldnt find legal advice on her own... or have a good lawyer to reference.

    But she also claimed to be a national caliber actress, and model, oh and Julliard Accepted!


    Itr's like a real reporter for the AP tried to corroborate all these claims, and then did an Xbox 360, and just walked away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Really odd she couldnt find legal advice on her own... or have a good lawyer to reference.
    See, I think it’s more advantageous to make an ass out of Uma Therman here...

    If she tried to get a lawyer after March 2019, she would have been inhibited by the cost of a lawyer. That’s because in March 2019, the GOP blocked funding to Violence Against Women act, that allocated 1.6 billion for victims to seek persecution. It’s why if you want Reade to persecute Biden, the only choice is Biden. Because unlike Trump, Biden not only promises to sign the funding in first 100 days, he co sponsored the bill in 1993. If Trump wins, where is Reade going to get money to persecute? If Biden wins, I know exactly where she will get the money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    See, I think it’s more advantageous to make an ass out of Uma Therman here...

    If she tried to get a lawyer after March 2019, she would have been inhibited by the cost of a lawyer. That’s because in March 2019, the GOP blocked funding to Violence Against Women act, that allocated 1.6 billion for victims to seek persecution. It’s why if you want Reade to persecute Biden, the only choice is Biden. Because unlike Trump, Biden not only promises to sign the funding in first 100 days, he co sponsored the bill in 1993. If Trump wins, where is Reade going to get money to persecute? If Biden wins, I know exactly where she will get the money...
    Youre telling yourself that at Biden would at least enable victims to come forward regardless of what he may have did or did not do.

    The other person is engaging in the same tactics used by Trump to smeer and bury his accusers. A culture designed to make it hard to find any truth in an accusation. Where the victim is always a liar, the accused is saint, 'well why didn't you do this or that if you were wronged'.

    That's why I can't ride with this pop liberalism where bullshit is fine as long as it's partisan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Worth noting in the meantime that the Senate explained that Biden's suggestions are not lawful or legal and that they by law can't release the several reports related to sexual harassment complaints made back in the 90-ies against him.
    Worth noting Biden has also asked what's the procedure to release the reports if they exist based on the initial denial by the Senate:

    1. Is just the existence of any such records subject to the same prohibition on disclosure?

    2. Is there anyone, such as a complainant, to whom such records, if they exist, could be lawfully disclosed?

    3. Could the Senate release the procedures and related materials, including any standard forms or instructions, that the Office of Senate Fair Employment Practices followed in 1993 for the intake and processing of any complaint of this kind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Worth noting in the meantime that the Senate explained that Biden's suggestions are not lawful or legal and that they by law can't release the several reports related to sexual harassment complaints made back in the 90-ies against him.
    The GOP controlled Senate?

    Can you cite the law they are using to prevent the reports from being disclosed? Because it's awfully convenient that Biden's answer is "yeah, I'll cooperate, go ahead and investigate" - and then the Senate claims they can't release the reports because it's against the law. Moscow Mitch's Senate, citing the law, as a reason for not being able to do something.

    And the irony will SWOOSH! right over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Dude, the allegation already has multiple flaws. This is not Kavanaugh. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
    Ford’s accusation didn’t even have any evidence. Her friend couldn’t remember going to a party with Kavanaugh. She couldn’t remember where the party took place. Her friend can’t remember her ditching her at the party. No one can even prove she and Kavanaugh had ever even met.

    To dismiss this when you have multiple corroborating statements along with the Larry King Live tape that proves this isn’t some conspiracy they came up with to defame Biden for this election is fucking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Worth noting in the meantime that the Senate explained that Biden's suggestions are not lawful or legal and that they by law can't release the several reports related to sexual harassment complaints made back in the 90-ies against him.
    And I feel like Biden knew that before he even asked for them to be released. He after all, spent decades as a US Senator.
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    Watching propaganda work
    In real time in this thread is amusing.

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    Yeah I'm sure Reagan's education secretary is totally an honest broker when it comes to anything to do with democrats...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Yeah I'm sure Reagan's education secretary is totally an honest broker when it comes to anything to do with democrats...
    Also not surprising;
    • Our Cosplay Socialists take everything a Republican says at face value.
    • Then they invent conspiracies and convoluted double meanings to anything a Democrat says.
    Only 20 years of Fox NEws does that to a person.

    Also not surprising;
    • They really support Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Youre telling yourself that at Biden would at least enable victims to come forward regardless of what he may have did or did not do.
    The guy literally sponsored a bill providing 1.6 billion to victims of assault, whose reauthorization is being blocked by GOP from March 2019. I don’t have to tell my self... it is what it is. Biden never called her a liar, saying he doesn’t understand why she would say it and asked for Senate records you be released.

    What did you think of the campus assault bill DeVos signed yesterday?

    The other person is engaging in the same tactics used by Trump to smeer and bury his accusers. A culture designed to make it hard to find any truth in an accusation. Where the victim is always a liar, the accused is saint, 'well why didn't you do this or that if you were wronged'.
    Bullshit... Biden didn’t call her a liar, he didn’t call her a slut, he didn’t say she was too ugly for him. Biden said to release his congressional records, while Trump has numerous NDAs. Trump’s GOP is blocking funding to victims of assault, Biden co sponsored it. Quite Biden saying anything remotely similar to Trump on this subject. It’s a completely absurd statement...

    That's why I can't ride with this pop liberalism where bullshit is fine as long as it's partisan.
    Don’t... do you want women to get finding, to persecute people like Trump and Biden? There is only one choice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    A lot of posturing basically, because he and his lawyers already knew / know the answer was going to be: "no". Considering they used to work for Congress and all that...
    Now, you are calling her a liar?
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    Remember kids;
    • One party fought for extended unemployment with the CARES act.
    • Trump's Party wants to force people back to work, so businesses can avoid unemployment payments.


    The company that wouldn’t excuse Juan Manuel Jaime to see a doctor while he worked sick for two weeks says it wasn’t aware he had covid-19 until he died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Former Education Secretary Bill Bennett explains that he believes there is "an almost 50 percent chance" that former Vice President Joe Biden will not lead the Democratic ticket in November's election. "I don't think it's a done deal," Bennett said. "He's hiding in the basement, he's not performing very well. Maybe he's better off there than going out and making these flubs he's been making, but the election is still six, eight months away. Meanwhile there have been closed door meetings within the DNC to come up with contingency plans should the sexual harassment allegations turn out to get out of control for Biden and should the need arise to appoint a more electable nominee."
    Took me a second to find a source for this, but it doesn't include everything in your post -

    https://dieselgasoil.com/bill-bennet...ratic-nominee/

    Cool, so you're looking to Bush Sr. Education Secretary in an interview on Fox News for analysis of Democratic insiders.

    However, the bolded quote you included doesn't seem to exist anywhere. Do you have sauce for that, or is that something you made up and slid in hoping nobody would notice?

    Edit: Found at least part of it - https://veltnews.com/former-educatio...nt-be-nominee/

    But still missing the ending part.

    Also, again, this is the guy you're looking to for information?

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bi...d-trump-quote/

    They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump. Don’t be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.

    It’s about the unholy dynamics between big government, big business, and big media.They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it’s in all of their interests to protect one another. It’s one for all and all for one.

    It’s a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich, everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We’re the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media, and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.

    Donald Trump can self-fund. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business, and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.

    It’s no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. It’s because most of the other politicians are part of the a ood old boys club. They talk big, but they won’t change a thing. They are all beholden to big-money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations … like Big Pharma or Big Oil.
    He was shilling conspiracy theories that Trump would be assassinated before he even took office. No wonder you're incredibly uninformed if this is the type of nutter you get your info from.
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    Wow, so much schadenfreude!

    Watching Medhi Hasan go from full Bernie Bro, to someone with panicked regret over the past few weeks. It finally dawned on him that four more years of Trump would be really bad for immigrants and muslim-americans.
    He's having deep regrets over the anti-Biden monster he helped to boost.

    Capstone to this regrest is his latest interview with Noam Chomsky.

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    Totally saw this coming.
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    Meanwhile on publications still bouncing around the Sanders camp...


    I really want the so called progressive wing of my party to come back to reality.

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    Who thijnk that biden will win lol

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    You can replace trump now with a cup and the cup would win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Meanwhile on publications still bouncing around the Sanders camp...


    I really want the so called progressive wing of my party to come back to reality.
    What the fuck is going on with these idiots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Meanwhile on publications still bouncing around the Sanders camp...
    Of course, the biggest problem with the comparison is that, in 1932 Germany, it was Hindenberg who won the election. The Nazi Party, and Hitler himself, didn't top 40% of the popular vote.

    The Nazis continued to gain ground in subsequent elections, and Hindenberg made Hitler Chancellor in '33, and then Hitler seized full control when Hindenberg died in '34. Hitler was not elected into office.

    But yes; had Germans stood up and voted against the Nazi Party's platform in those federal elections, Hindenberg would never have felt the pressure to put Hitler in that position, and history would be wildly different. And if there's a lesson we learned in the aftermath of WWII, it's the banality of evil; evil is not psychopaths twirling moustaches and torturing puppies because it's EVIL. The Hitlers and Himmlers and Goebbels of society get nowhere without armies of Eichmanns who follow orders and do their duty and don't cause a fuss. And we're pretty much in agreement that Eichmann was evil as fuck, precisely because of that willingness to abide the horror.

    That's what we're seeing. A lot of Eichmann types, who take issue with that comparison, because they've never learned this lesson about the character of evil.

    I really want the so called progressive wing of my party to come back to reality.
    Speaking as a progressive myself, it's baffling. There's a place for idealism, and that place is in the primaries. I think Biden's a shitshow of a candidate, though not the worst of the crop that was running (Gabbard and Buttigieg and Bloomberg were all way worse). But he's better than the Republican running. And once you get to the general, "neither of these guys" isn't on the ballot. It isn't an option. There is no way to produce that outcome. You're getting one or the other, and if you tell me they're equally bad, I'm gonna say you're blind or crazy.


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