Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Milchshake]

The problem with the Justice Dems, it's a constant barrage of sloganeering.

They're really salty because they saved up bigly on the "Bernie Woulda Won" slogan. But Biden's historic win canceled that. Now they're lashing out.

[Endus]

...and the two dems sitting in hard blue Miami-Dade county...and lost to two Republicans...wtg...

GOP took a slogan and turned it into shit and did a good job smearing everyone with it.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-vote-1085830/

Oh look, the reality is that there was a Republican disinformation campaign fearmongering about Biden being a "socialist", and voters in the county fell for that lie.

Here's another; https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...54b_story.html

Again, Republican disinformation campaigns.

Not a slogan for a political movement that Democratic candidates didn't even support.

Like I said; you're blaming the wrong things.

[Edge-]

Are we still talking about how slogans are largely empty words to get people excited and let people fill in the blanks with whatever they want? Or how they're secretly the most subtle way of boiling down complex messaging into a few words that actually are understood to mean thousands of words worth of policy and nuance?

[Grapemask]

Got Republicans and idiots left and right trying to use Al Gore as an excuse for this "election fraud" garbage.

Al Gore was behind Bush by ~500 votes in one state.
Donald Trump is behind Biden by tens of thousands of votes in multiple states.

It's not even close.

I know right? I've seen this argument used like 15 times today. Which conservative pundit chucked it into today's programming?

I am so tired of a side that is nothing but bad preschool-level logic. Why do we have to keep taking these kids seriously?

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1326923762365816834

From a Bloomberg reporter covering Congress, apparently the Trump administration is stepping back from stimulus negotiations.

Sorry, Republicans suffering and in need of stimulus assistance. Trump lost and he's gonna burn this country to the ground rather than spend the last 2 months doing the job you elected him to do.

Can we just like, get Biden in a little bit early, please?

[Egomaniac]

No less than 5 years ago right wingers (and even some moderate Democrats) said that Black Lives Matter was confusing to them because "why can't all lives matter". Look at it now, I guess it was just a bad slogan because it had to be explained, right?

That's not a great example. "All lives Matter" is still being used as a counter for "Black Lives Matter". And if it takes 5 years for "Defund the Police" to make the same progress as "Black Lives Matter"...well, you aren't going to be seeing the changes you want any time soon.

[Edge-]

That's not a great example. "All lives Matter" is still being used as a counter for "Black Lives Matter". And if it takes 5 years for "Defund the Police" to make the same progress as "Black Lives Matter"...well, you aren't going to be seeing the changes you want any time soon.

The hashtag/slogan is 7 years old, so it's even older than that.

But it speaks to the difficulties of sloganeering outside of your core audience.

[Breccia]

From a Bloomberg reporter covering Congress, apparently the Trump administration is stepping back from stimulus negotiations.

Irrelevant. McConnell already said there would be none.

Well I guess it just proves how much Trump doesn't care. That's relevant.

[Edge-]

Irrelevant. McConnell already said there would be none.

Well I guess it just proves how much Trump doesn't care. That's relevant.

It's a unified Republican front on saying, "Fuck you, America. You can suffer because we lost."

[Thepersona]

...and the two dems sitting in hard blue Miami-Dade county...and lost to two Republicans...wtg...

GOP took a slogan and turned it into shit and did a good job smearing everyone with it.

The Miami debacle was in part because of the extremely effective fearmongering campaign done by republicans. And that bears the question... Do democrats have good campaign slogans/ads in spanish?

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The problem with the Justice Dems, it's a constant barrage of sloganeering.

They're really salty because they saved up bigly on the "Bernie Woulda Won" slogan. But Biden's historic win canceled that. Now they're lashing out.

I mean, their goals are noble ones, and they should be achieved. But oh my, they suck at messaging. Defunding the police? socialism?
In America, when there are still millions of voters programmed into the red scare? Not gonna happen lads, not yet.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/usps-s...ampering-claim

USPS "whistleblower" that perjured himself in a sword affidavit also now claims that Project Veritas wrote it for him.

Sure, he's probably trying to weasel his way out of perjury chargers, but PV is also not entirely denying that they were involved in writing it.

Man, can they rack up another felony?

[cubby]

Oh I see. You think you're clever. Not clever enough to clearly express yourself, apparently, but that's not your fault, right? Your interpretation as written was nonsense. I explained my meaning, you could have the courtesy to do so in return, preferably without the condescension and sneering tone.

I did explain the point (again)...it's not our fault you didn't understand it. If you have specific questions, please ask - but stop posting nonsense about "what was your point" when I've clearly explained...twice. Sea Lioning isn't allowed on this forum, so I'd ask you to refrain.

[Breccia]

Man, can they rack up another felony?

Probably. Hey @cubby if I write a statement I know is false, give it to someone who also knows its false, and ask them to read it under oath, that's conspiracy, right?

[Nurasu]

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1326923762365816834

From a Bloomberg reporter covering Congress, apparently the Trump administration is stepping back from stimulus negotiations.

Sorry, Republicans suffering and in need of stimulus assistance. Trump lost and he's gonna burn this country to the ground rather than spend the last 2 months doing the job you elected him to do.

Can we just like, get Biden in a little bit early, please?

A little more pain now will pay in spades later when it costs them the Georgia runoff. At least, that's my hope...

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/trum...ronavirus.html

And Corey Lewandowski is positive.

Thoughts and prayers.

[Eviscero]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/usps-s...ampering-claim

USPS "whistleblower" that perjured himself in a sword affidavit also now claims that Project Veritas wrote it for him.

Sure, he's probably trying to weasel his way out of perjury chargers, but PV is also not entirely denying that they were involved in writing it.

Man, can they rack up another felony?

Project Veritas got so used to getting away with lying, they forgot there are certain situations when you can't without consequences. If Project Veritas also gets taken down because of this dumpster fire, that will be a cherry on top!

[Fugus]

I would argue that an individual's right to stay in political office is only tenured by the willingness of the people to have them there.

If Trump is doing what some people believe he is, either looking to cause longstanding harm to the government or even, in the worst case, setting up what will be a failed coup attempt, the public and the military are fully within their rights to take action. Especially in the latter case, violent action, if no other means are available, is an option. Whether he is legally entitled to be there is immaterial.

The problem with that is the legal remedies for it lie in the Senate whom has refused to get off their fat, lazy, useless bum asses and do their damn jobs in that regard and have chosen to look the other way. And the remedy for that is voting but, as you can see, tens of millions of Americans failed to do their damn jobs in that regard as well.

So, to do it correctly, need to wait till the 20th where he is required to be out, then deal with him then, otherwise you leave them legitimate claims.

[Breccia]

Pennsylvania court blocks counting of some provisional ballots

Pennsylvania’s Commonwealth Court on Thursday barred county election officials from counting provisional ballots that were cast on Election Day by voters whose absentee or mail-in ballots were received on time.

Those provisional ballots were ordered last week to be separated until the Commonwealth Court determine the validity of the votes. The case was brought by U.S. President Donald Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee.

Trump’s Democratic challenger Joe Biden has been projected to win Pennsylvania, giving him enough electoral votes to become the president-elect.

So, they mailed in their ballot, weren't sure it would arrive, so they cast a provisional one, the mailed ballot arrived and was counted, so their provisional one wasn't.

I fail to see a problem with this.

[Machismo]

Pennsylvania court blocks counting of some provisional ballots



So, they mailed in their ballot, weren't sure it would arrive, so they cast a provisional one, the mailed ballot arrived and was counted, so their provisional one wasn't.

I fail to see a problem with this.

I'm sure many Trumpsters will think of this as a huge victory, but that's exactly what is supposed to happen. It's the judge literally saying one person, one vote.

[kaid]

Pennsylvania court blocks counting of some provisional ballots



So, they mailed in their ballot, weren't sure it would arrive, so they cast a provisional one, the mailed ballot arrived and was counted, so their provisional one wasn't.

I fail to see a problem with this.

Yes in theory those Provisionals should just get tossed as they had already voted as normal and expected.