Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Egomaniac]

It's easier to deceive your base when your base is full of idiots.

Democrats are so good at cheating that they leave behind no evidence

Which should beggar the question:

"Then why did they lose the Senate?"

[kaelleria]

More Trump led losers -
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ion/6278120002

Wayne County Circuit Judge Timothy Kenny denied Friday a request to stop the canvassing and certification of Wayne County's election results, noting that Detroit officials "offered a more accurate and persuasive explanation of activity" within the TCF Center last week.

Kenny also rejected poll challengers' request for an independent audit of the county's results, citing that state law governs the audit process.

The judge cast doubt on the affidavits of several GOP poll challengers who were present during the absentee counting process, writing that they had not attended an Oct. 29 walk through of operations at TCF Center and "did not have a full understanding" of the process.

"No formal challenges were filed. However, sinister, fraudulent motives were ascribed to the process and the city of Detroit," Kenny wrote in a Friday opinion. "Plaintiff's interpretation of events is incorrect and not credible."

Poll challengers, represented by the Great Lakes Justice Center, requested an independent audit of the Wayne County election results before the scheduled Tuesday completion of certification, a halt to the certification process, an order voiding the county's results and a new election in Wayne County.

Wayne County's bipartisan board of canvassers is expected to certify the city's results on Tuesday, followed by a state certification vote on Nov. 23.

The lawsuit's allegations targeted purported restrictions on poll challengers, late arriving absentee ballots and clerk's office workers who encouraged early voters to cast their ballots for Democratic President-elect Joe Biden and Democrats.

The city of Detroit has denied each allegation and said they are proof the plaintiffs "do not understand absent voter ballot processing and tabulating."

"It is clear also that they did not operate through the leadership of their challenger party, because the issues they bring forward were by and large discussed and resolved with the leadership of their challenger party," according to an affidavit by Chris Thomas, a retired 36-year elections director for Michigan under both Republican and Democratic secretaries of state.

Thomas was a senior adviser to Detroit Clerk Janice Winfrey during the Nov. 3 general election after issues with unbalanced poll books in Detroit surfaced during the August primary.

The city has said in its defense that the "unsecured ballots" the poll challengers allege were delivered to the TCF Center likely were blank ballots meant to be used to duplicate ballots too damaged to run through the tabulator,.


The case in Wayne County alsincluded an affidavit from Republican former Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, who is now a state senator. Johnson advocated court intervention and an audit of the results.

[Edge-]

Democrats are so good at cheating that they leave behind no evidence

Which should beggar the question:

"Then why did they lose the Senate?"

And lose seats in the House. And lost tons of state level elections.

And like...if they're that good at cheating...maybe you want them running things since they appear far more adept at it than the Trump campaign did.

[Breccia]

So Peter Navarro is claiming the election "Appears to be an immaculate deception". In other words, the democrats cheated so effectively that they left no evidence of cheating, but we know they cheated, so we aren't going to transition power.

Following your example, to misquote Stephen Colbert, if the Democrats were able to make a multi-state conspiracy that not only rigged the election, but left no trace at all of its existence, wouldn't you want that level of efficiency right now?

If someone tells you "You cheated, but I can't prove it" the response is always "Well that means I win". Especially if, of course, you didn't cheat.

"I couldn't find proof of cheating" is not proof of cheating.

[Egomaniac]

And lose seats in the House. And lost tons of state level elections.

And like...if they're that good at cheating...maybe you want them running things since they appear far more adept at it than the Trump campaign did.

But somehow they are only good at cheating Presidential Elections. Which is kind of amazing...because that requires rigging the EC...whereas everything else just requires rigging the popular vote.

[TigTone]

Following your example, to misquote Stephen Colbert, if the Democrats were able to make a multi-state conspiracy that not only rigged the election, but left no trace at all of its existence, wouldn't you want that level of efficiency right now?

If someone tells you "You cheated, but I can't prove it" the response is always "Well that means I win". Especially if, of course, you didn't cheat.

"I couldn't find proof of cheating" is not proof of cheating.

Like a pro con artist would say “it’s only cheating if you get caught”.

That aside the reality is trumps cult can not accept they lost because that would mean they would have to reevaluate the mental construct they have created for themselves.

[Ripster42]

Yes, it's true.

Florida used to be more purple than North Carolina, by several points. Now, we see they are more red than NC by a few. Florida is heading in the wrong direction for Democrats, and is likely not worth the resources. Sure, if the Dems put someone up who appeals to both old people and Latinos, they can make a play for the state. But, as we've seen... old racists vote.

I'm curious if they'll try to have another constitutional referendum about ex-cons voting to make it clear that all fines/fees do not have to be paid, just the jail/prison sentence served.

[Breccia]

More Trump led losers

UPDATE: Trump campaign abandons Arizona lawsuit

Trump's campaign said in court Friday that a lawsuit contesting the presidential vote count in Maricopa County, Ariz., was moot, per The Wall Street Journal.

It's yet another tacit acknowledgment from the campaign that its attempt to flip states from President-elect Biden to Trump utilizing legal methods is unlikely to be effective.

The Trump campaign filed a lawsuit alleging that some in-person votes in Maricopa County were incorrectly rejected.

Kory Langhofer, a Trump campaign attorney, said they weren’t alleging voter fraud at a hearing on Thursday, according to WSJ. The campaign instead claimed that poll workers had submitted ballots with errors and did not give voters the opportunity to correct them.

The number of these ballots was less than 200, but Biden led Trump by over 11,000 votes on Friday with 99% of the votes counted, according to the AP's tally.

I wonder, did Trump just decide that fraud wasn't important? It sounds like Trump thinks fraud isn't important. Oh sure, he'd still lose, but wouldn't 200 cases of voter fraud be worth investigating? Or I guess in this case, continuing the lawsuit?

I think Trump dropping this lawsuit is evidence Trump doesn't care about law and order. He just wants to win. Can anyone logically refute that? Is there a reason Trump would drop the lawsuit, if he really wanted to find cases of voter fraud, and expose them?

[Rasulis]

Trump campaign drops Arizona ballot challenge case, says Biden has too many votes to catch up

Why is he wasting everybody's time for a job that he does not seem to have any interest in doing. The pandemic is raging through the US, and he is wasting time filing frivolous elections lawsuits, playing golf and firing people.

[kaelleria]

Trump campaign drops Arizona ballot challenge case, says Biden has too many votes to catch up

Why is he wasting everybody's time for a job that he does not seem to have any interest in doing. The pandemic is raging through the US, and he is wasting time filing frivolous elections lawsuits, playing golf and firing people.

You can't grift on election fraud claims if you've conceded.

[Zan15]

AOC's name is shit at the moment.
The one whose name seems untouched is Pelosi.; Pelosi floats above Democrats’ civil war
And between the heat she's getting and the lack of support, AOC said she's thinking of quitting.

but but Pelosi has ice cream!!

funny how this is their main point of attack. A big freezer and ice cream was the front page of the NY post.

I guess this is her "tan" pants moment?

[Adam Jensen]

Trump campaign drops Arizona ballot challenge case, says Biden has too many votes to catch up

Why is he wasting everybody's time for a job that he does not seem to have any interest in doing. The pandemic is raging through the US, and he is wasting time filing frivolous elections lawsuits, playing golf and firing people.

His narcissism can't handle the fact he lost.

[Machismo]

I'm curious if they'll try to have another constitutional referendum about ex-cons voting to make it clear that all fines/fees do not have to be paid, just the jail/prison sentence served.

Florida Man deserves to vote, too!

[Zan15]

Trump campaign drops Arizona ballot challenge case, says Biden has too many votes to catch up

Why is he wasting everybody's time for a job that he does not seem to have any interest in doing. The pandemic is raging through the US, and he is wasting time filing frivolous elections lawsuits, playing golf and firing people.

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do you realize how much money he is going to grift off these people.

[TigTone]

His narcissism can't handle the fact he lost.

This is his most public loss and it’s on the world stage.

The fact that he is being a sore loser is showing the ENTIRE world what he has always been. A loser and a fake winner.

[Rasulis]

You can't grift on election fraud claims if you've conceded.

That's what I don't understand. Why is his voters putting up with this. Multiple states are quickly maxxing out their ICU beds. Mississippi, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Idaho are out of ICU beds and at 80 - 90% occupancy of their total general hospital bed capacity. Unless the patient is in critical condition, he or she get to go home and self-treat.

[Breccia]

do you realize how much money he is going to grift off these people.

...you know what, fine. Whaterver.

If these cultists, even knowing where the money is really going, give him money anyhow, then he deserves to have it.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

This is his most public loss and it’s on the world stage.

The fact that he is being a sore loser is showing the ENTIRE world what he has always been. A loser and a fake winner.

For sure. Probably also the first time in his life that he couldn't be bailed out. As a kid his daddy was pretty much always able to buy his way out of things like the draft as an example. In business he just filed bankruptcy and got to start over. Or some bank comes along and gives me a massive lone because of his family name. Hell, even refuse to pay people or trick people into screwing themselves because they couldn't compete on a money level with legal teams. This election loss though is going to be something that he won't be able to throw money and paperwork at and get bailed out on. It is probably going to be one of the first times he will lose and have to actually face the consequences of the loss personally (he won't admit it but its written all over his face). Most of us go through this around the age of two or three on a fairly regular basis. We will get to see a guy that has deserved it his whole life go though it at real time in his 70s. It is going to be entertaining. Sadly a lot of people with the COVID thing are probably going to die as he sits around watching it burn out of some selfish self pity.

[passingthrew]

That's what I don't understand. Why is his voters putting up with this. Multiple states are quickly maxxing out their ICU beds. Mississippi, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Idaho are out of ICU beds and at 80 - 90% occupancy of their total general hospital bed capacity. Unless the patient is in critical condition, he or she get to go home and self-treat.

It's a death cult.

[kaelleria]

That's what I don't understand. Why is his voters putting up with this. Multiple states are quickly maxxing out their ICU beds. Mississippi, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Idaho are out of ICU beds and at 80 - 90% occupancy of their total general hospital bed capacity. Unless the patient is in critical condition, he or she get to go home and self-treat.

Because they're still convinced its a democratic hoax...

New house member today -

Our first session of New Member Orientation covered COVID in Congress.

Masks, masks, masks....

I proudly told my freshman class that masks are oppressive.

In GA, we work out, shop, go to restaurants, go to work, and school without masks.

My body, my choice.

#FreeYourFace