Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

Why should anyone care if nobody else does either apparently?

Those who care are the ones who are currently getting demonized for it.

You're rejecting a woman's story based on some twitter posts she made. Ignoring that all her closest friends acknowledged her story, her closest family members acknowledging that she told the story right after it happened (and some of them discouraging her to come forward with it), and ignoring her mother being on video footage phoning in on a TV show to ask advice about it.

Don't pretend you care either. And don't pretend you care about Trump being beaten in November either if you keep pushing Creepy "Can't-stop-touching-women" Joe as the nominee.

But, you "didn't care" first... that's the problem.

I'm not rejecting anything, and have called for her to be deposed under oath on multiple occasions.

Meanwhile:

My displeasure with the Democratic Party's establishment is indeed so great that I'd not be upset if Trump won the elections again in 2020. My entire emotion around Biden being the nominee can very easily be summed up in one word: "Anger"... which is known to be a bit of a tricky and irrational emotion.

This is not because I harbor a resentment for americans, my fellow man or anyone, but rather the opposite. Biden and Trump are too similar and I don't see the great merit of replacing one with the other. Do people have a point about the stacked Supreme Court? Sure, but a court full of (neo)liberals isn't going to safe the world or the people of the USA. It's just a different kind of evil.



I'm very willing to condemn and see Trump punished for his misbehavior towards women. In fact I remember various threads, even before Epstein was hot in the news, where I condemned Trump on a daily basis with multiple posts on this forum. I posted various articles that explained or accused Trump diddling underage women, against their will.

Are you willing to see Biden punished and condemned for his inappropriate behavior towards women?
And I'm not even talking about the horrible Tara Reade accusations, but against the widely known behavior of him touching women and making them visibly uncomfortable in public with it.

[JohnBrown1917]

How democrats reacted to Tara's story is exactly why a lot of rape victims don't come out.

[Edge-]

Congress isn't even willing to deny that there are no records of Joe's sexual misbehavior.

Because they didn't comment on records at all, whether they exist or not, per the law.

I see between this shit and your made up quote from earlier you have absolutely zero problems lying about shit.

[Machismo]

Biden and his staff knew that Congress would never comply because they're not allowed to, as Congress has explained themselves already. Congress isn't even willing to deny that there are no records of Joe's sexual misbehavior.

Do you have evidence that knew they would never comply?

He even added follow-up questions to try and get it released. It seems like she could get them released.

[Machismo]

How democrats reacted to Tara's story is exactly why a lot of rape victims don't come out.

Lots of them are calling for her to testify under oath. She can get a lawyer, and have a deposition whenever she wants.

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You need to be really twisted to somehow imply that I said anything wrong in that post. It's an honest confession and nothing in it was said that was wrong.

Well, you said you had no problem with Trump winning... why are you trying to minimize sexual assault?

Hell, you said you are even going to vote for Trump.

You also said your hatred for Biden isn't about sexual assault (or else you wouldn't want in), and your entire goal is to simply watch it all burn.

It's pretty fucking vile to use sexual assault victims (alleged) to further your political goals.

[Felya]

Why should anyone care if nobody else does either apparently?

Biden cares enough to have funding for people like Reade, as part of his first 100 day plan.

Those who care are the ones who are currently getting demonized for it.

No, neither Reade or her neighbor are being demonized by Biden. In fact, her neighbor is voting Biden.

You're rejecting a woman's story based on some twitter posts she made. Ignoring that all her closest friends acknowledged her story, her closest family members acknowledging that she told the story right after it happened (and some of them discouraging her to come forward with it), and ignoring her mother being on video footage phoning in on a TV show to ask advice about it.

No, Biden said to release records. All of his staff has been questioned and he has money to help people like Reade persecute, in his first 100 day plan. Biden didn’t reject her story, he simply stated he didn’t do it. His response to why she would claim it, Biden said he didn’t know. He didn’t accuse her of lying or anything of the sort. He provided no explanation for why she believes what she does.

Don't pretend you care either. And don't pretend you care about Trump being beaten in November either if you keep pushing Creepy "Can't-stop-touching-women" Joe as the nominee.

None of the women that think he was creepy, are accusing him of assault. He touches men the same way... there are numerous photos of him creeping up on Obama.

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How democrats reacted to Tara's story is exactly why a lot of rape victims don't come out.

By saying to release records and voting unanimously for funding assault victim cases? Are you sure about that? Biden didn’t even call her a liar... or accuse her of anything. Just put funding for people like Reade, in his 100 day plan.

I’m waiting for the inevitable... ‘Biden is doing so much to assist Reade, he must be hiding something. Does not protest enough.’

[Edge-]

Posturing and virtue signaling.

"Everything he does that may be good is all just a fake act!"

Man life must be real easy when you have a simple explanation for everything.

[Machismo]

Doesn't want an apology or anything, just for him to drop out. Go figure.

Did she just admit that this is politically motivated?

[Edge-]

Did she just admit that this is politically motivated?

No, she didn't. She thinks it's too late for an apology.

Though unrelated, is Meagan running her own site now? It's wild seeing the heir apparent to the most valuable hour of TV on the air can't even find a news outlet to pick her up after her career went down in flames when she tried her schtick outside of Fox.

[Felya]

Posturing and virtue signaling.

Really? Have you looked in the mirror? What else do you want him to do, to help Reade?

Did you know many corporations donate a lot of money to environmentalist charities? Meanwhile they keep polluting the planet worse than anyone else.

Than why doesn’t GOP sign it? You have created a scenario, where there is nothing Biden can do, to defend a guy hiding records, NDAs, calling his assaulters ugly liars after his money. You so don’t care about women, you are arguing that money allocated for investigation and persecution is tantamount to bribing.

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"Everything he does that may be good is all just a fake act!"

Man life must be real easy when you have a simple explanation for everything.

It’s not easy... I’ve asked twice what he things Biden should do to help Reade. He can’t answer, due to the underlined.

[Machismo]

No, she didn't. She thinks it's too late for an apology.

Though unrelated, is Meagan running her own site now? It's wild seeing the heir apparent to the most valuable hour of TV on the air can't even find a news outlet to pick her up after her career went down in flames when she tried her schtick outside of Fox.

I actually feel bad for Megyn Kelly, she's clearly an intelligent woman, and wanted to be taken seriously. She wasn't as bad as some of the other shit stains on Fox.

If she wants Biden to drop out, she sure as shit better be willing to go under oath, and should find that complain she claimed she made.

[Machismo]

He should stop touching women awkwardly and drop out before this whole thing blows up in his face and everyone supporting him right now.

Just like the DNC is fearing exactly like it might happen.

So, then should Trump also drop out? Why haven't you been screaming for him to do the same?

[Machismo]

I have. You've just not been paying attention, confirmation bias or whatever.

Oh, I've been paying attention juuuuust fine. It';s why we all know you to be a Trump supporter. It's also why we know you don't actually give a shit about sexual assault (that comment has already been provided).

[Edge-]

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/07/ale...not-clear-cut/

"It certainly seems as though something has happened. I'm not sure," Ocasio-Cortez told NPR's "Morning Edition" of the accusation by Tara Reade, a former Senate staffer for Joe Biden who accused the former vice president of sexually assaulting her in 1993. "Frankly, this is a messy moment, and I think we need to acknowledge that — that it is not clear cut."

So...are we supposed to cancel AOC now?

[fwc577]

I saw someone else make the point, I don't remember if it was on Reddit or in this thread but it was a good point and needs to be restated.

Yes, we should believe women.

No, we shouldn't blindly believe women.

The point being that we should take women's statements on their sexual assault and you know, actually investigate them. It makes me sad that we have people in this world who cannot understand this.

As it stands, the information we have at hand makes Reade not look credible and if there is one mistake that Joe Biden has made it's giving this complaint a shred of legitimacy by addressing it.

We can now just add to the pile of shit from Reade that she just wants Joe Biden to drop out. She doesn't want to pursue criminal charges, civil court, or anything of that nature. She just wants to disrupt the current political field for the Democrats. This benefits Trump and Russia and she has a history of pro-Russia statements. This whole thing is a fucking circus.

Between Reade and Murry, if there are any legitimate woman who have actually been harassed it's going to be much, much harder for them to come forward.

[Felya]

He should stop touching women awkwardly and drop out before this whole thing blows up in his face and everyone supporting him right now.

How does that help Reade? That helps you and you are using Reade for ideological gain. I asked, how does it help Reade?

Just like the DNC is fearing exactly like it might happen.

Not what I asked... but, this proves my point.

The future of the USA is on the line, don't put all your eggs in a single creepy basket.

Yeah, I’m voting against Trump either way.

[JohnBrown1917]

He should stop touching women awkwardly and drop out before this whole thing blows up in his face and everyone supporting him right now.

Just like the DNC is fearing exactly like it might happen.

The future of the USA is on the line, don't put all your eggs in a single creepy basket.

Nah, its on the DNC whether he should drop out or not. Its the DNC's problems. Not yours or anybody outside the party.

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https://www.salon.com/2020/05/07/ale...not-clear-cut/



So...are we supposed to cancel AOC now?

If she straight up says she does not believe Tara, yes Do you think this somekind of gotcha? Just because you liberals have no standards. That, again, does not apply to everybody.

[Machismo]

Nah, its on the DNC whether he should drop out or not. Its the DNC's problems. Not yours or anybody outside the party.

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If she straight up says she does not believe Tara, yes[which that quote is not doing]. Do you think this somekind of gotcha? Just because you liberals have no standards. That, again, does not apply to everybody.

Do you think Trump should drop out? Who should replace Trump?

[Felya]

If she straight up says she does not believe Tara, yes[which that quote is not doing]. Do you think this somekind of gotcha? Just because you liberals have no standards. That, again, does not apply to everybody.

What do you want Biden to do, to help Reade?

[fwc577]

Nah, its on the DNC whether he should drop out or not. Its the DNC's problems. Not yours or anybody outside the party.

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If she straight up says she does not believe Tara, yes Do you think this somekind of gotcha? Just because you liberals have no standards. That, again, does not apply to everybody.

I can just feel the seething rage that clouds your mind when you typed out liberals. You probably nearly broke the L key hitting it so hard twice.

It makes me laugh because you somehow think it is a dirty, insulting, and offensive word.

It reminds me of this time when I was in China. Some dude insulted me. Or I should say, some dude tried to insult me. He called me a Cheeseburger-eating American.

I could only laugh at his idiocy because I am a Cheeseburger-eating American and there is nothing wrong with that. Cheeseburgers are amazing.

I laughed at him much the same way I laugh at you when you use LIBERAL like it's some dirty word.

Pathetic, haha.