Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Acidbaron]

She went to the people in charge of Timesup a group put together to help with such things back in January and began speaking out about it last April and was attacked for it at the time.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/...etoo-times-up/

Alright fair enough, than again considering how the US system works and how there are only two candidates. Which of them would be more likely to actually do something about women issues?

You might find this an unfair question or even comparison and it would, than again it wouldn't be less fair than the current question of who to vote for in the upcoming US election.

[Acidbaron]

To actually do something about it, or to posture and pretend they're doing something about it?

It's pretty common nowadays for upper class criminals to run charities and grand stand about the donations they make to good causes, only to hide their crimes.

So I think the real answer to your questions is: We wouldn't be able to know.

I would argue that even making merely gestures and promises sends a signal of certain behaviour not being okay is an improvement over today's White House stance on the matter.

I am speaking of the best choice out of two bad ones. So arguing for a great choice is pointless in this situation.

[Endus]

Trump isn't Hitler, you and others lose all credibility when you imply any similarities. It's disturbing but not at all surprising as the Right and GOP make similar outlandish claims of Obama.

I didn't.

You're continuing your bad-faith misrepresentation of my posts.

[Felya]

To actually do something about it, or to posture and pretend they're doing something about it?

It's pretty common nowadays for upper class criminals to run charities and grand stand about the donations they make to good causes, only to be able to hide their crimes better behind optics.

So I think the real answer to your questions is: We wouldn't be able to know.

Providing aid for persecuting is not a bribe... it’s not money to make them stop investigating, it’s to explicitly investigate. You are suggesting women will take this money, pay for lawyers and then do nothing? Absurd...

FYI: What you are doing, is showing that the right way to treat assault accusations, is to call victims liars, ugly, sluts that are after your money and no one will care. You are teaching people, that not saying your accuser is a liar, not trying to insert motive, but provide not only access, but funding for persecution, needs punishment. In one of those you will be forced to resign, in the other you are elected president twice.

[Jehct]

I didn't.

You're continuing your bad-faith misrepresentation of my posts.

It seems like the new "Nuh-Uh" rebuttal to win an argument is " you are operating in bad-faith". Shit makes me laugh every time.

[Machismo]

Every single form of aid coming from the Democratic Party seems to come with a small print stating:

"As long as you don't try to investigate anyone in our preferred elite."

Evidence, please.

[unfilteredJW]

It seems like the new "Nuh-Uh" rebuttal to win an argument is " you are operating in bad-faith". Shit makes me laugh every time.

Only to simpletons.

[Ghostpanther]

Interesting response from Trump on the alleged sexual assault claim against Biden...........

..https://www.foxnews.com/media/presid...ions-joe-biden

President Trump said Friday that he hopes allegations of sexual misconduct against 2020 Democratic presidential candidate and presumptive nominee Joe Biden are false "for his sake."

In a phone interview on "Fox & Friends" with host Steve Doocy, Brian Kilmeade and Ainsley Earhardt, the president said that he had gotten to "see a piece" of former Senate staffer Tara Reade's interview with Megyn Kelly Thursday night and came to the conclusion that the former vice president has "got to fight that battle."

"I've had battles too where I've had false accusations many times," he pointed out. "I think you understand that."

"We had one recently — a woman in Florida made an accusation and it was one time. It was on a camera and the judge is furious," he remarked. "It went to court because I'm not going to ... they made a false accusation."

"It went to court and proved my case 100 percent. I got lucky," he told the "Friends" hosts. "Somebody was taping a meeting."

"Are you saying [that] what [Tara Reade is] saying is false?" asked Earhardt.

"I don't know if it's false or not," he replied.

"I mean, Joe is going to have to be able to prove whatever he has to prove or she has to prove it, but that's a battle he has to fight," Trump stated.

"I've had many false accusations made. I can tell you that, many. And, maybe it is a false accusation," he added.

[Jehct]

Only to simpletons.

lol. Whatever makes you get off bro. good for you.

Oops.. I mean.. You are operating in bad-faith thinking that only simpletons think that.

[Machismo]

Interesting response from Trump on the alleged sexual assault claim against Biden...........

..https://www.foxnews.com/media/presid...ions-joe-biden

President Trump said Friday that he hopes allegations of sexual misconduct against 2020 Democratic presidential candidate and presumptive nominee Joe Biden are false "for his sake."

In a phone interview on "Fox & Friends" with host Steve Doocy, Brian Kilmeade and Ainsley Earhardt, the president said that he had gotten to "see a piece" of former Senate staffer Tara Reade's interview with Megyn Kelly Thursday night and came to the conclusion that the former vice president has "got to fight that battle."

Yeah, Trump is all for sexual assault, we know that.

[Felya]

Every single form of aid coming from the Democratic Party seems to come with a small print stating:

"As long as you don't try to investigate anyone in our preferred elite."

Bullshit... this aid has been going since 1993, when Biden sponsored it. GOP took to Supreme Court to block it in 2000 and defunded it in 2019. Take your defending of rapists stealing money from victims, somewhere else.

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"We had one recently — a woman in Florida made an accusation and it was one time. It was on a camera and the judge is furious," he remarked. "It went to court because I'm not going to ... they made a false accusation."

Biden is welcoming the investigation and said to release senate records. Notice the difference with Trump? He is accusing Reade of more than Biden did and seems to forget the name of his accuser.

[Felya]

If something is relevant there has to be similarities. That was you and others who seem to want to imply, not only voting for Trump, but failing to vote for your preferred candidate to share part of the blame. You wanna feel better about yourself by illogically blaming those who are invested and researched voters be my guest., I however, won't be silenced or shammed into supporting a terrible candidate with a history of being on the wrong side of a lot of US policy. I refuse to support elected officials who proven over decades they shouldn't be trusted.

Obviously, your goal is to silence and shame others for voting Biden.

[Felya]

Not at all. I wouldn't dream of it.

That really seems like the reason why you are attacking Ednus. You are asserting what he meant, which in retrospect to you calling people voting Biden, assault supporters... seems a lot like projecting.

[Acidbaron]

Providing aid for persecuting is not a bribe... it’s not money to make them stop investigating, it’s to explicitly investigate. You are suggesting women will take this money, pay for lawyers and then do nothing? Absurd...

FYI: What you are doing, is showing that the right way to treat assault accusations, is to call victims liars, ugly, sluts that are after your money and no one will care. You are teaching people, that not saying your accuser is a liar, not trying to insert motive, but provide not only access, but funding for persecution, needs punishment. In one of those you will be forced to resign, in the other you are elected president twice.

Now i wouldn't go so far as saying that is want he desires but indeed i find that people like @Rochana are idealists that only want things to happen when all specific boxes of their values are checked, if they are not progress be damned. What i find a bit absurd as no change ever came under such conditions, it was all very messy and muddied.

I can understand such idealism but in reality it does nothing to improve the situation for anyone, they are after all their own worst enemy if they aren't able to compromise for progress. Because if we make such idealism an condition and start applying it to past changes we wouldn't even have voting rights for women at this point to name one thing.

[Felya]

Now i wouldn't go so far as saying that is want he desires but indeed i find that people like @Rochana are idealists that only want things to happen when all specific boxes of their values are checked, if they are not progress be damned. What i find a bit absurd as no change ever came under such conditions, it was all very messy and muddied.

I can understand such idealism but in reality it does nothing to improve the situation for anyone, they are after all their own worst enemy if they aren't able to compromise for progress. Because if we make such idealism an condition and start applying it to past changes we wouldn't even have voting rights for women at this point to name one thing.

Obviously he doesn’t, just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

He is not an idealist, he is an alt right Trump supporter.

[beanman12345]

My man, what?

I was obviously alluding to the fact that a person isn't going to do a full background check on their entire legal counsel. I could have easily said, "the first-year intern once donated money to Sarah Palin". The thought still stands.

If I hire Saul Goodman, even if I run a Level 5 background check, I'm not doing that for every little paralegal he might bring to assist him.

It is a reach to assert something about a client just because one time many moons ago someone in the legal office might have sent Rick Santorum $50.

As I said, intelligent people want to know what they are spending money on and are gonna check. These aren't paralegals. nobody is gonna check their mmo-c. Your argument is terrible, and just take the L here bro.

[Felya]

Sort of a cooking pot meets Kettle moment.

No, because assuming, instead of addressing issues, is sort of the calling card of Trump supporters and alt right. How many times have you called people saying they will vote Biden, some sort of derivative of supporting assault?

Oh and for general reference... trying to silence through shame, is a form of browbeating.

[Acidbaron]

Obviously he doesn’t, just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

He is not an idealist, he is an alt right Trump supporter.

Oh, well that would make more sense so all this is simply a facade.
Such a display of cowardice that you can't even come forward about your own political believes. Well no trumpkin has any ground to claim anything on when it comes to women rights.

[Felya]

Oh, well that would make more sense so all this is simply a facade.
Such a display of cowardice that you can't even come forward about your own political believes. Well no trumpkin has any ground to claim anything on when it comes to women rights.

It slips sometimes... a couple of people have quotes from him in signatures, when he gets frustrated and the facade fades.

[Endus]

If something is relevant there has to be similarities.

I was not talking about either Hitler or Trump. So you're making shit up, and pretending I said it, when I didn't.

Or, to be more clear; you're lying. Purposefully, deliberately.