1. #3661
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiStooge View Post
    There was no mention of his BS amendment excuse and other races in that original post. Very telling. Then when he got caught, he panicked. He begun to do damage control and image altering from there and scream "I'm not a racist even though I have no objections to racist policies!!!" Things that are clear about him: he is a hypocrite racist who is in favor of the reckless abuse of the Amendment like a certain Orange Guy.
    You really should have read the thread. I provided it, and it was easy.

    This was literally my first comment in that thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It sounds like you don't support freedom of speech.
    God damn, look at that support for the First Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    This is a thread for discussion of reality, not fantasies. And they’d have dropped out around January... so it’s a fucking stupid hypothetical to begin with. If people are done jerking off to their favorite governors now, can we return to discussing the election. That good with you?
    Riiiight, discussing fantasies, like an investigation into Biden and getting him replaced by Bernie?

    The reality is blue people will vote for the blue man and red people will vote for the red man and this thread does jack diddly squat to change any of their minds or alter the reality that come January, we will either have the human embodiment of everything that's wrong with America in office, or an old white man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Investigating these claims isn’t a fantasy, it’s a preferred course of action. If they find evidence it happened you replace him with the candidate who had the second most support. How is logic fantasy?
    Your fantasy here is fantasizing that any of this is going to happen.

    News flash: it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Are we supposed to ignore all that until the tribal battle in november?


    It's gonna be Biden vs Trump Nov 2nd only on Pay-Per-View and we're all gonna have to suck it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Are we supposed to ignore all that until the tribal battle in november?
    you've stated repeatedly you want trump and the GOP to win in November so I'm not sure why you expect anyone to think you are engaging in good faith dialogue here.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

  6. #3666
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    It is thus upon all of us to address this issue before November.
    So, what will Biden have to do to get your vote?

    That's right, we already know there is literally nothing he can do to get your vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I'll type it again, just for you:

    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    Of course you'd be against any of those thins happening, mr. Libertarian.
    I support plenty of things for the working class, like their freedom to collectively bargain, and work where they want to work.

    Then again, I'm not a Trump supporter pretending to have concern for liberals and progressives.

  9. #3669
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I'll type it again, just for you:

    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    Of course you'd be opposed to such, mr. Libertarian.
    Spoken like a true Trump supporter.

  10. #3670
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    For the people who keep claiming that Biden is totally better than Republicans:

    Joe Biden campaigned for Republican Fred Upton (endorsed by Trump) ahead of the 2018 midterms for $200k. Upton was the coauthor of a 2017 bill to repeal the ACA/Obamacare.

    So he effectively ran -against- the Democratic Party in 2018... But I'm sure he totally changed his views and opinions after 1-2 years.
    You really like twisting things out of context.

    He wasn't campaigning for Upton but was giving a speech for the Economics Club of Southwestern Michigan. And gave Upton praise for his part in the 21st Century Cures Act, which was a bipartisan bill to help in cancer research. Of which Biden's eldest son died of a few years earlier.

    As Biden's aid said:
    “It was one of the few bipartisan bills passed in an otherwise deeply divided and gridlocked Congress,” Bill Russo, a spokesman for Biden, told the Times. “Vice President Biden believes to his core that you can disagree politically on a lot and still work together in good faith on issues of common cause — like funding cancer research.”
    But republicans being the snakes they are took Biden's compliment and twisted into a TV ad campaign for Upton.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ections-report

    You really need to try harder Rochana in your misinformation campaign. Your stuff is too easy to debunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    It is thus upon all of us to address this issue before November.
    i'm not voting for trump.
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  12. #3672
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    i'm not voting for trump.
    Try convincing them

  13. #3673
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I support plenty of things for the working class, like their freedom to collectively bargain, and work where they want to work.

    Then again, I'm not a Trump supporter pretending to have concern for liberals and progressives.
    You may not realize, but you really have similarities to Trump.

  14. #3674
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Why are you trying to twist the truth?

    Let me quote the article -you- linked there:

    Former Vice President Joe Biden made $200,000 speaking to a Republican-leaning audience in the battleground state of Michigan just weeks before November’s 2018 midterm elections. The contract reportedly made it clear that the audience would be “primarily older, conservative Republicans and local community members.” People involved in the event’s planning told the Times that Biden was not urged to praise Upton. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Biden to walk back his comments, which he never did. Biden (controversially) decided not to endorse Upton’s Democratic challenger. Upton eventually won his reelection bid by 4.5 points.

    Is it okay to help Republicans win elections if you're an elite member of the Democratic Party?
    Yeah, what are they tryna take your job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    Why are you trying to twist the truth?

    Let me quote the article -you- linked there:

    Former Vice President Joe Biden made $200,000 speaking to a Republican-leaning audience in the battleground state of Michigan just weeks before November’s 2018 midterm elections. The contract reportedly made it clear that the audience would be “primarily older, conservative Republicans and local community members.” People involved in the event’s planning told the Times that Biden was not urged to praise Upton. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Biden to walk back his comments, which he never did. Biden (controversially) decided not to endorse Upton’s Democratic challenger. Upton eventually won his reelection bid by 4.5 points.

    Is it okay to help Republicans win elections if you're an elite member of the Democratic Party?
    Your reading comprehension is rather poor.

    It wasn't a campaign speech he gave it was a paid speaking event that Upton happen to be attending. Biden noticed him and gave him praise for helping support cancer research. It was bad timing with the midterms coming up, but it was the republicans who twisted his complement into an ad campaign.

    But from what your saying its bad to give praise for supporting cancer research if they're of the opposite party.

  16. #3676
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, what will Biden have to do to get your vote?

    That's right, we already know there is literally nothing he can do to get your vote.
    Voting in the UK and USA has similar criteria. Left Wing vs Right Wing.

    Since i am part of the majority demograph electorate (private sector working class) i think i can speak here and share same opinion as many others.

    Reward private sector workers for their hard work, don't take them for granted and don't waste their tax money and you'll win them over and get yourself in power.

    The Left prove time and time again they have inability to understand the private sector working class.

    What's worse for the left in general, is that they are too stubborn to even admit their inabilities.

    They look for reasons why they didn't win in every single place expect for the reasons that are actually factual why they lost.

    I see many left wing orientated forums, Facebook feeds, etc and they simply misquote right wing politicians or flat out lie what was spoken.

    This DRIVES populism. Something the left can't admit they CAUSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Voting in the UK and USA has similar criteria. Left Wing vs Right Wing.

    Since i am part of the majority demograph electorate (private sector working class) i think i can speak here and share same opinion as many others.

    Reward private sector workers for their hard work, don't take them for granted and don't waste their tax money and you'll win them over and get yourself in power.

    The Left prove time and time again they have inability to understand there private sector working class.

    What's worse for the left in general, is that they are too stubborn to even admit their inabilities.

    They look for reasons why they didn't win in every single place expect for the reasons that are actually factual why they lost.

    I see many left wing orientated forums, Facebook feeds, etc and they simply misquote right wing politicians or flat out lie what was spoken.
    Trump increased spending, increased the deficits,and raised taxes on those very people.

    Trump is the very epitome of wasting money... next!
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-09 at 06:57 PM.

  18. #3678
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Trump I creased spending, increased the deficits,and raised taxes on those very people.

    Trump is the very epitome of wasting money... next!
    Could you post Evidence for your claims?

    Trump's Facebook feed has hundreds of thousands of comments from middle class people praising him for their tax breaks.

    He's converted friends of mine who were originally anti-Trump because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Could you post Evidence for your claims?

    Trump's Facebook feed has hundreds of thousands of comments from middle class people praising him for their tax breaks.

    He's converted friends of mine who were originally anti-Trump because of this.
    You aint no Trumpster that much is obvious. No Trumpster would self destruct like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    It is thus upon all of us to address this issue before November.
    People who want something done about the working class and wealth inequality will vote the rich elite party who has actively done everything they can to harm the working class and increase wealth inequality?

    I mean, I know voters are stupid, but I'm fairly certain your argument is founded upon some insane idea that they think Trump is working for their benefit.
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