1. #3681
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Could you post Evidence for your claims?

    Trump's Facebook feed has hundreds of thousands of comments from middle class people praising him for their tax breaks.

    He's converted friends of mine who were originally anti-Trump because of this.
    I'd be happy to,just as soon as you provide evidence that I asked for 5 times.

    Of course you know about his tax increases, because you literally wrote about about them in the thread where I asked for your evidence.

  2. #3682
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    People who want something done about the working class and wealth inequality will vote the rich elite party who has actively done everything they can to harm the working class and increase wealth inequality?

    I mean, I know voters are stupid, but I'm fairly certain your argument is founded upon some insane idea that they think Trump is working for their benefit.
    That's the scary thing, hardcore devout Trump supporters like @Rochana actually think he is. The mountains of evidence to the contrary won't ever change their opinion of that.

  3. #3683
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'd be happy to,just as soon as you provide evidence that I asked for 5 times.

    Of course you know about his tax increases, because you literally wrote about about them in the thread where I asked for your evidence.
    a) Trump raising import taxes that American companies pay is the same thing as giving them tax breaks to manufacture on American soil

    b) Giving private sector workers tax breaks on their salaries

    Point 1 - a) and b) aren't the same

    Point 2 - b) is where the left have lost votes and where Trump has gained

  4. #3684
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    a) Trump raising import taxes that American companies pay is the same thing as giving them tax breaks to manufacture on American soil

    b) Giving private sector workers tax breaks on their salaries

    Point 1 - a) and b) aren't the same

    Point 2 - b) is where the left have lost votes and where Trump has gained
    Uhh... what?

    Trump raised taxes,and consumers pay those taxes... poor consumers, Trump hates them.

    It's nice to know you agree that Trump raised taxes, hurting working Americans.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-09 at 06:55 PM.

  5. #3685
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Uhh... what?

    Trump raised taxes,and consumers pay those taxes... poor consumers, Trump hates them.
    That's what left wing theory tells you. That companies increase prices and pass them on to the consumer.

    The reality is that companies bring their manufacturing back to USA soil (creating a huge amount of native private sector jobs, who will in turn vote Trump).

    I would love for you, in your own words, try to explain why Trump is in power and why he will almost certainly win the next election.

    I'm even giving you the answers right here why his voting base is so strong, but you are just about to parrot the same excuses the left make in general. You'll come up with as million reasons OTHER than the factual reasons he is going to win again.

    It just drives populism. The left consistently move themselves into losing positions and don't want to admit why.

  6. #3686
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    That's what left wing theory tells you. That companies increase prices and pass them on to the consumer.

    The reality is that companies bring their manufacturing back to USA soil (creating a huge amount of native private sector jobs, who will in turn vote Trump).

    I would love for you, in your own words, try to explain why Trump is in power and why he will almost certainly win the next election.

    I'm even giving you the answer sheets right here why his voting base is so strong, but you are just about to parrot the same excuses the left make in general. You'll come up with as million reasons OTHER than the factual reasons he is going to win again.

    It just drives populism. The left consistently move themselves into losing positions and don't want to admit why.
    Sorry, I'm a conservative... it's what economists say.

    Trump is in power, because he pandered to racists, bigots, and convinced people they were victims.

    They sure do love their racist messiah.

    Yet another British Trumpster in this thread... no surprise there.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-09 at 07:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    If Biden or the Democratic Party doesn't show they're willing to do more for the working class people and to fight wealth inequality then yes, I believe most people will be voting for Trump.

    It is thus upon all of us to address this issue before November.
    You know. You say you care about these things, but then say you're willing to let Trump stay in office which shows you really don't care.


    Actions speak louder than words.

  8. #3688
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Sorry, I'm a conservative... it's what economists say.

    Trump is in power, because he pandered to racists, bigots, and convinced people they were victims.

    They sure do love their racist messiah.

    Yet another British Trumpster in this thread... no surprise there.
    Ah, there we go.

    "Anyone who votes Trump is a racist."

    The more that narrative gets spewed, the more the left will lose votes and Trump will gain.

    Why?

    Because it is a flat out lie.

    People don't like, nor will vote for liars.

  9. #3689
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Ah, there we go.

    "Anyone who votes Trump is a racist."

    The more that narrative gets spewed, the more the left will lose votes and Trump will gain.

    Why?

    Because it is a flat out lie.

    People don't like, nor will vote for liars.
    Did I say that? Nope.

    Trump has more than 18000 sourced false statements and misleading claims. People love voting for liars.

    Sorry, you Trumpsters love being lied to:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ims-1170-days/
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-09 at 07:22 PM.

  10. #3690
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Ah, there we go.

    "Anyone who votes Trump is a racist."

    The more that narrative gets spewed, the more the left will lose votes and Trump will gain.

    Why?

    Because it is a flat out lie.

    People don't like, nor will vote for liars.
    There's actually plenty of good data backing that up. It's the whole "economic anxiety" line that's bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Ah, there we go.

    "Anyone who votes Trump is a racist."

    The more that narrative gets spewed, the more the left will lose votes and Trump will gain.

    Why?

    Because it is a flat out lie.

    People don't like, nor will vote for liars.
    So you don't think any racist voted for Trump over Hilary?

  12. #3692
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Ah, there we go.

    "Anyone who votes Trump is a racist."

    The more that narrative gets spewed, the more the left will lose votes and Trump will gain.

    Why?

    Because it is a flat out lie.

    People don't like, nor will vote for liars.
    haha Trump has made almost 20,000 documented lies since he took office. Way to kill your own argument.

  13. #3693
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Did I say that? Nope.

    Trump has more than 18000 sourced false statements and misleading claims. People love voting for liars.
    I've seen plenty of claims about Trump, then i have gone to YouTube and the internet and seen the EXACT words which was spoken.

    Plenty of people claimed Trump told people to inject themselves with disinfectant.

    He literally never once told anyone to do that.

    Or how about that guy that drunk fish tank cleaner because Trump said hydroxychloroquine could cure coronovirus.

    I saw plenty of people claim that Trump told people to drink fish tank cleaner.

    What would it take for me to vote left?

    Lies like that to stop.

    I'm not explaining to you that i support Trump, I'm conveying why i THINK he will win again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLioness View Post
    So where's your evidence that he's a British? Also I'm still waiting on your evidence that prove your mother is a racist
    I told him i am British in another thread

  14. #3694
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLioness View Post
    So where's your evidence that he's a British? Also I'm still waiting on your evidence that prove your mother is a racist
    Here you go!!!

    Enjoy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Voting in the UK and USA has similar criteria. Left Wing vs Right Wing.

    Since i am part of the majority demograph electorate (private sector working class) i think i can speak here and share same opinion as many others.

    Reward private sector workers for their hard work, don't take them for granted and don't waste their tax money and you'll win them over and get yourself in power.

    The Left prove time and time again they have inability to understand the private sector working class.

    What's worse for the left in general, is that they are too stubborn to even admit their inabilities.

    They look for reasons why they didn't win in every single place expect for the reasons that are actually factual why they lost.

    I see many left wing orientated forums, Facebook feeds, etc and they simply misquote right wing politicians or flat out lie what was spoken.

    This DRIVES populism. Something the left can't admit they CAUSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    I've seen plenty of claims about Trump, then i have gone to YouTube and the internet and seen the EXACT words which was spoken.

    Plenty of people claimed Trump told people to inject themselves with disinfectant.

    He literally never once told anyone to do that.

    Or how about that guy that drunk fish tank cleaner because Trump said hydroxychloroquine could cure coronovirus.

    I saw plenty of people claim that Trump told people to drink fish tank cleaner.

    What would it take for me to vote left?

    Lies like that to stop.

    I'm not explaining to you that i support Trump, I'm conveying why i THINK he will win again.

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    I told him i am British in another thread
    That evidence was already provided, enjoy!!!

    Of course, I'm still waiting on your evidence from earlier. Does this mean you are retracting your claim?

  15. #3695
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    "What do you have to lose?"
    Like of all the hills, this one. I'll never understand why it's this one for these people.

  16. #3696
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLioness View Post
    Yes but he could be lying for all we know. You doubted his claims about the virus being man-made, but why not his nationality? Evidence please. Ok I'll take a look brb. Ty.
    Well, if he's lying, then you should take it up with him. You are welcome for the evidence.

  17. #3697
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Here you go!!!

    Enjoy!!!



    - - - Updated - - -



    That evidence was already provided, enjoy!!!

    Of course, I'm still waiting on your evidence from earlier. Does this mean you are retracting your claim?
    Other thread was done for me sorry. Your evidence agreed with my claims.

  18. #3698
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Other thread was done for me sorry. Your evidence agreed with my claims.
    Nope, that is a lie. You kept trying to ignore what was actually said. Of course it's done for you, because you got caught pushing baseless conspiracy theories.

    Don't worry, I accept your full retraction.

  19. #3699
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLioness View Post
    Alright. Thanks for showing me 2 articles that attempts at debunking claims about Obama and the other guy. But there is no evidence that shows your mother making false claims about them or making racist comments like you've said
    She posted things that were literally false. You. Are. Welcome.

    I'm not showing you her Facebook page, creepy online dude.

  20. #3700
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLioness View Post
    Goddammit. I wasted an hour waiting for this bs
    If you are upset that I didn't give you a Facebook page, there's not much I can do to help you. Practice some OpSec.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-05-09 at 07:43 PM.

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