Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

I didn't know you need a PC and an hour half to provide 2 crap articles like that. And in the end you have no evidence and not being sincere at all. I will take it that you are lying if there is no evidence. Very disappointing but still expected from someone like you. I feel for your mom.

I was on the road... so sad for you. Enjoy!!!

Considering I've been waiting for evidence from you for about 35 accounts now... I'd be grateful you got anything at all.

[Machismo]

What evidence do you want? Where's your evidence that I have 35 accounts? Can't believe you would smear your poor mom(?) like that.

Oh, honey... we know it's far more than that.

I'm still waiting for the evidence that Biden is currently a segregationist.

I don't think I'm going to get that evidence.

I hope you have a lovely day, and you are welcome for the evidence. Bye, now!!!

[Macd123aw]

Nope, that is a lie. You kept trying to ignore what was actually said. Of course it's done for you, because you got caught pushing baseless conspiracy theories.

Don't worry, I accept your full retraction.

Just to be clear.

I made claim that the virus was released with purpose, not by accident. I demonstrated that i was firm in that belief.

The evidence you linked clearly states that the virus was not man made but that it could have been released intentionally from the laboratory.

The words in your evidence agrees with my premise.

I'm sorry you want to continue with the debate, i do not. You linked evidence that agrees with my claim. That for me means there is nothing left to debate because you successfully backed my claim up for yourself.

[Orange Joe]

So you don't think any racist voted for Trump over Hilary?

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So no answer?

[Macd123aw]

So no answer?

I think some people who hold racist views voted for Trump.

I also think some people with racist views voted for Hilary.

I think it's silly to make assumption that EVERYBODY who voted one way or the other did so because of racial motivations.

The largest single demograph in the electorate is the private sector worker.

From my experience, you win them over by showing them that their taxes are being used for their benefit.

I think Trump does that, which is why his voting base grew.

I think it's completely false to say he won because everybody is racist. I find that to be a ridiculous claim.

It's the same false narrative the left tried to push when Brexit won.

[Levelfive]

I think some people who hold racist views voted for Trump.

I also think some people with racist views voted for Hilary.

I think it's silly to make assumption that EVERYBODY who voted one way or the other did so because of racial motivations.

The largest single demograph in the electorate is the private sector worker.

From my experience, you win them over by showing them that their taxes are being used for their benefit.

I think Trump does that, which is why his voting base grew.

I think it's completely false to say he won because everybody is racist. I find that to be a ridiculous claim.

Nobody made that claim, other than you, strawmanning.

[Orange Joe]

I think some people who hold racist views voted for Trump.

I also think some people with racist views voted for Hilary.

I think it's silly to make assumption that EVERYBODY who voted one way or the other did so because of racial motivations.

The largest single demograph in the electorate is the private sector worker.

From my experience, you win them over by showing them that their taxes are being used for their benefit.

I think Trump does that, which is why his voting base grew.

I think it's completely false to say he won because everybody is racist. I find that to be a ridiculous claim.

It's the same false narrative the left tried to push when Brexit won.

You were the only one to make the assumption that he was talking about all Trump voters.

[Macd123aw]

Nobody made that claim, other than you, strawmanning.

Trump is in power, because he pandered to racists, bigots, and convinced people they were victims.

They sure do love their racist messiah.

I'm at the point in my life, where I've seen enough leftists call Trump voters racist that i don't need to see it anymore to know that's the general view the left hold.

Even if Machismo hadn't parrotted that idea again, I'd still claim you a liar.

It's why i can't possibly vote left. The amount of lies is just something i can't support.

[Orange Joe]

I'm at the point in my life, where I've seen enough leftists call Trump voters racist that i don't need to see it anymore to know that's the general view the left hold.

Even if Machismo hadn't parrotted that idea again, I'd still claim you a liar.

It's why i can't possibly vote left. The amount of lies is just something i can't support.

I don't see him saying ALL trump voters are racist. Is English your first language?

[Macd123aw]

You were the only one to make the assumption that he was talking about all Trump voters.

He is claiming a majority. Close enough for me.

[Orange Joe]

He is claiming a majority. Close enough for me.

He was? Can you highlight the word majority in his statement?

[Machismo]

Just to be clear.

I made claim that the virus was released with purpose, not by accident. I demonstrated that i was firm in that belief.

The evidence you linked clearly states that the virus was not man made but that it could have been released intentionally from the laboratory.

The words in your evidence agrees with my premise.

I'm sorry you want to continue with the debate, i do not. You linked evidence that agrees with my claim. That for me means there is nothing left to debate because you successfully backed my claim up for yourself.

Just to be clear, I have yet to see any evidence to back up your claim. You believed something without any evidence to back it up. That's your fault.
And no, it does not agree with your baseless premise, stop lying.

Hence the problem.

I'm sorry you got caught making baseless claims.

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He is claiming a majority. Close enough for me.

Where did I say that? Evidence, please.

[beanman12345]

Not at the point in life to come up with an intelligent argument though, or at the point in life to realize how sad it is to ban evade so you can post on a political sub forum to a wow site.

[Machismo]

I'm at the point in my life, where I've seen enough leftists call Trump voters racist that i don't need to see it anymore to know that's the general view the left hold.

Even if Machismo hadn't parrotted that idea again, I'd still claim you a liar.

It's why i can't possibly vote left. The amount of lies is just something i can't support.

Sorry, I'm a small-government conservative.

So, it would appear that you are twice wrong.

I accept your apology.

[Levelfive]

I'm at the point in my life, where I've seen enough leftists call Trump voters racist that i don't need to see it anymore to know that's the general view the left hold.

Even if Machismo hadn't parrotted that idea again, I'd still claim you a liar.

It's why i can't possibly vote left. The amount of lies is just something i can't support.

What Machismo said in that quote is true and backed up by data. Again, nobody, besides you, said, "he won because everyone is racist."

[Crispin]

He is claiming a majority. Close enough for me.

People like David Duke endorsing Trump's run for presidency, Trump calling neo-nazi's "good people on both sides" clearly shows that he was in fact pandering to racist voters.

Keep in mind that I'm not a "lefty", one does not have to be, to realise that David Duke is one and him endorsing Trump is basicly him saying "Hey vote for Trump if you're a white power douchebag"

[Macd123aw]

One of the most upvoted posts on the frontpage of reddit right now. This should show that Biden will struggle in November:

To the people flooding into this subreddit trying to get us to vote for Biden: You’re posting in the wrong place.
This is a left wing subreddit. That means we support left wing candidates. Biden is a right wing candidate.

The Democratic party didn’t make an unprecedented push to close ranks and anoint Biden the nominee to get our votes, they did it to appeal to right wing voters. They made the calculation that they don’t need us. Biden was chosen for the same reason he was placed on the Obama ticket, to appeal to the right.

This is the strategy that the DNC chose and by posting here you’re not following their election strategy. I’m not sure why this isn’t obvious to you, considering the paper thin and extremely vague arguments you have to resort to in order to convince a leftist to vote for Biden, but I’m here to help point you in the right direction and get those votes for Biden.

First you need to find some conservative subreddits, forums, websites, etc. There are actually a lot of them. These people are your ideological peers as Joe Biden advocates so you will have a much easier time and a lot more arguments to make to win them over.

I’ll even help you get started with some free Biden talking points:

• You know how you hate government programs? So does Biden! He proudly supported cutting social security many times!
• Biden is tough on immigration! He even helped pioneer the cages and helped deport millions of people and also supported a wall!
• Biden loves the police and putting minorities in prison, check out his long history on criminal justice!
• Biden is personally responsible for seating conservative supreme court justice Clarence Thomas and voted to confirm Scalia!
• Biden doesn’t think it’s always a woman’s right to choose! He even voted to allow states to overturn Roe v. Wade!
• Biden loves bombing the middle east! He proudly helped push the Iraq War and supported George Bush!
• Biden supported the Defense of Marriage Act to keep gay people from getting married!
• Drill baby, drill! Biden loves offshore drilling and fracking!
• In the 2018 Midterm Elections Biden campaigned for and helped GOP / Republican Candidates get elected over Democratic candidates. Even going so far as endorsing Republicans over Democrats. He was paid several hundreds thousand of dollars for this by the Republican Party.

Those are just off the top of my head. Don’t say we never did anything for you guys. If those don’t work you could always lean into his similarities to Trump on a personal level, you know, grabbing women, threatening to slap a voter in the face, stuff like that. Or maybe bring up his support of segregationists if you want to convince some of the more racist ones.

So now you’ve got your blueprint for ushering Biden into the White House, as the DNC intended. Now get out there and drum up those Republican votes!

Below some of the debunked objections people raised to it:

• So what if Biden is a rapist!?!?
• There are *four lights!* Okay, maybe five. Definitely five.
• Bernie says!! Why aren't you good cultists like me???
• Who needs healthcare anyway?
• I'd vote for Satan over Trump, everyone should, to stop evil.

Just out of curiosity.

Does everyone who agrees with this agree that Hilary and Obama are right wing politicians too.

They both have backed Biden.

[Orange Joe]

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Take your fake concern elsewhere. If you truly cared about what you say you do you wouldn't want Trump in office ever again.

[Crispin]

One of the most upvoted posts on the frontpage of reddit right now. This should show that Biden will struggle in November:

To the people flooding into this subreddit trying to get us to vote for Biden: You’re posting in the wrong place.
This is a left wing subreddit. That means we support left wing candidates. Biden is a right wing candidate.

The Democratic party didn’t make an unprecedented push to close ranks and anoint Biden the nominee to get our votes, they did it to appeal to right wing voters. They made the calculation that they don’t need us. Biden was chosen for the same reason he was placed on the Obama ticket, to appeal to the right.

This is the strategy that the DNC chose and by posting here you’re not following their election strategy. I’m not sure why this isn’t obvious to you, considering the paper thin and extremely vague arguments you have to resort to in order to convince a leftist to vote for Biden, but I’m here to help point you in the right direction and get those votes for Biden.

First you need to find some conservative subreddits, forums, websites, etc. There are actually a lot of them. These people are your ideological peers as Joe Biden advocates so you will have a much easier time and a lot more arguments to make to win them over.

I’ll even help you get started with some free Biden talking points:

• You know how you hate government programs? So does Biden! He proudly supported cutting social security many times!
• Biden is tough on immigration! He even helped pioneer the cages and helped deport millions of people and also supported a wall!
• Biden loves the police and putting minorities in prison, check out his long history on criminal justice!
• Biden is personally responsible for seating conservative supreme court justice Clarence Thomas and voted to confirm Scalia!
• Biden doesn’t think it’s always a woman’s right to choose! He even voted to allow states to overturn Roe v. Wade!
• Biden loves bombing the middle east! He proudly helped push the Iraq War and supported George Bush!
• Biden supported the Defense of Marriage Act to keep gay people from getting married!
• Drill baby, drill! Biden loves offshore drilling and fracking!
• In the 2018 Midterm Elections Biden campaigned for and helped GOP / Republican Candidates get elected over Democratic candidates. Even going so far as endorsing Republicans over Democrats. He was paid several hundreds thousand of dollars for this by the Republican Party.

Those are just off the top of my head. Don’t say we never did anything for you guys. If those don’t work you could always lean into his similarities to Trump on a personal level, you know, grabbing women, threatening to slap a voter in the face, stuff like that. Or maybe bring up his support of segregationists if you want to convince some of the more racist ones.

So now you’ve got your blueprint for ushering Biden into the White House, as the DNC intended. Now get out there and drum up those Republican votes!

Below some of the debunked objections people raised to it:

• So what if Biden is a rapist!?!?
• There are *four lights!* Okay, maybe five. Definitely five.
• Bernie says!! Why aren't you good cultists like me???
• Who needs healthcare anyway?
• I'd vote for Satan over Trump, everyone should, to stop evil.

Not surprising tbh, Bernie is so far left wing that some of his suppoters are for an ideology and not the democratic party.

[Levelfive]

Not surprising tbh, Bernie is so far left wing that some of his suppoters are for an ideology and not the democratic party.

Yes, one that just so happens to support right wing talking points. Biden's not progressive enough--vote Trump!