1. #3721
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    People like David Duke endorsing Trump's run for presidency, Trump calling neo-nazi's "good people on both sides" clearly shows that he was in fact pandering to racist voters.

    Keep in mind that I'm not a "lefty", one does not have to be, to realise that David Duke is one and him endorsing Trump is basicly him saying "Hey vote for Trump if you're a white power douchebag"
    Here's the full transcript -

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...sides-remarks/

    Not only did he NOT say neo-nazis were good people, he makes sentences that specifically condemns neo-nazis.

    To say that Trump said neo-nazis are good people is fake news. It is a clear lie.

    How can you possibly convince voters to vote democrat when they are clearly lieing about what Trump said?

    The whole narrative is there for everybody to research and read for themselves...

  2. #3722
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I never got the whole X person is bad and so that person is bad..

    David Duke is a racist moron nothing he says or does would ever effect my judgement. You can find equally reprehensible people on both side. Now if Trump was openly supporting David Duke that would matter,
    Well, he does have a white supremacist in charge of immigration policy... so you can judge him for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Here's the full transcript -

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...sides-remarks/

    Not only did he NOT say neo-nazis were good people, he makes sentences that specifically condemns neo-nazis.

    To say that Trump said neo-nazis are good people is fake news. It is a clear lie.

    How can you possibly convince voters to vote democrat when they are clearly lieing about what Trump said?

    The whole narrative is there for everybody to research and read for themselves...
    And yet, you ignored the 18000 times Trump got caught pushing false and misleading claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Well, he does have a white supremacist in charge of immigration policy... so you can judge him for that.

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    And yet, you ignored the 18000 times Trump got caught pushing false and misleading claims.
    But this IS one of those times.

    So i do my own research to find out it's a lie.

    A CLEAR lie.

    My point is that the lies of the left are LOSING them votes.

    Why not just make truthful statements, push good politics, and win voters back?

    I mean even the whole impeachment thing ended up with majority of people thinking Pelosi was a bat shit crazy liar too.

    Why isn't the left simply using a tiny bit of brain instead of pushing so many lies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    But this IS one of those times.

    So i do my own research to find out it's a lie.

    A CLEAR lie.

    My point is that the lies of the left are LOSING them votes.

    Why not just make truthful statements, push good politics, and win voters back?

    I mean even the whole impeachment thing ended up with majority of people thinking Pelosi was a bat shit crazy liar too.

    Why isn't the left simply using a tiny bit of brain instead of pushing so many lies?

    Here is the real test. Who do you think lies more. The left or Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
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    Haven't we already debunked the wall thing? You know, the same video that you posted some pages back with your respective interpretation of it, except it was wrong?

    So with that in mind, should we take that list seriously, specially given the strong possibility of these being generalizations subject to political biases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    But this IS one of those times.

    So i do my own research to find out it's a lie.

    A CLEAR lie.

    My point is that the lies of the left are LOSING them votes.

    Why not just make truthful statements, push good politics, and win voters back?

    I mean even the whole impeachment thing ended up with majority of people thinking Pelosi was a bat shit crazy liar too.

    Why isn't the left simply using a tiny bit of brain instead of pushing so many lies?
    And, the lies of Trump get him supporters like you... go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Yeah and that is a legitimate concern. I am of the mind Trump's worst appointments were Devos, Mnuchin, and Ajit pae.

    I would struggle to think of one that I would consider good. I guess fauci but I don't think that was actually Trump's pick.
    Nah, Fauci has been there for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Here's the full transcript -

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...sides-remarks/

    Not only did he NOT say neo-nazis were good people, he makes sentences that specifically condemns neo-nazis.

    To say that Trump said neo-nazis are good people is fake news. It is a clear lie.

    How can you possibly convince voters to vote democrat when they are clearly lieing about what Trump said?

    The whole narrative is there for everybody to research and read for themselves...
    This is long after the “good people on both sides”

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    Also since you approve of politifact

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...acism-decades/

    Trumps racist behaviour is not new. You crying “Lügenpresse” does not change the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Also since you approve of politifact

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...acism-decades/

    Trumps racist behaviour is not new. You crying “Lügenpresse” does not change the facts.
    Speaking of politicfact.

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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  10. #3730
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And, the lies of Trump get him supporters like you... go figure.

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    Nah, Fauci has been there for decades.
    Trump's lies didn't win me over.

    The lies of the left plus the fact they have no clue how valuable private sector workers are pushed me away.

    Soros breaking the bank of England, pushing cheap immigrant labour leading to financial hardships for my family didn't really help much either.

    I mean, you reap what you sow right?
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  11. #3731
    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    But this IS one of those times.

    So i do my own research to find out it's a lie.

    A CLEAR lie.

    My point is that the lies of the left are LOSING them votes.

    Why not just make truthful statements, push good politics, and win voters back?

    I mean even the whole impeachment thing ended up with majority of people thinking Pelosi was a bat shit crazy liar too.

    Why isn't the left simply using a tiny bit of brain instead of pushing so many lies?
    I'm pretty well convinced at this point you don't even know what lies are, and only partly because you're willing to buy the absolutely batshit* insane conspiracy theory that the virus was released on purpose. There was a rally where neo-nazis chanted, "Jews will not replace us," and murdered a woman. It really should have been a slam dunk for the president of the United States to roundly condemn them, but because they make up a large part of his base and he knows it, he equivocated, "[there] were very fine people on both sides." And now you're pretending that somehow isn't the same as saying neo-nazis are good people. A) Yes. Yes it is. B) What kind of person does that, and then has the gall to fret about "lies"?

    *Yes, I know.
    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Trump's lies didn't win me over.

    The lies of the left plus the fact they have no clue how valuable private sector workers are pushed me away.

    Soros breaking the bank of England, pushing cheap immigrant labour leading to financial hardships for my family didn't really help much either.
    So, your fake concern for lies is simply an attempt to be disingenuous.

    That was easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macd123aw View Post
    Trump's lies didn't win me over.

    The lies of the left plus the fact they have no clue how valuable private sector workers are pushed me away.

    Soros breaking the bank of England, pushing cheap immigrant labour leading to financial hardships for my family didn't really help much either.
    What lies? Be specific here? According to what politifact has Trump tells the truth less than 30% of the time. So 70% of what he says is a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    What lies? Be specific here? According to what politifact has Trump tells the truth less than 30% of the time. So 70% of what he says is a lie.
    Soros now. Jesus fucking wept. You can't accuse the right of not knowing their audience.
    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit

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    Jeez we really need a mod to come in here and scrub this ban evader out of this thread, it's getting really tiresome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I could never argue with my own reflection, it's always right.

    We were told to treat them as "new posters." This is what the powers that be want.
    Both you and I know its a ban evading alt. There will never be good discussion here if you keep giving shitposting ban evaders a platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Stating facts isn't silly. Trump didn't cause the Pandemic or the Economic collapse. Those two things were seemly inevitable.
    Trump is directly responsible for the deplorable lack of leadership and continued deaths due to his inaction because of his narcissism; he didn't want to interrupt the dozens of rallies he would be present over the spring and summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Yeah and that is a legitimate concern. I am of the mind Trump's worst appointments were Devos, Mnuchin, and Ajit pae.

    I would struggle to think of one that I would consider good. I guess fauci but I don't think that was actually Trump's pick.
    Then you obviously aren't knowledgeable on his cabinet and executive appointments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Or I simply care about different shit then you do.
    What different shit? Go ahead and read about his appointments for the heads of the executive agencies, then read about his exploitation of "acting" heads to bypass congressional appointments because, like himself, are all wholly unsuited for their job.
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    If you can't tell by the people I listed then you aren't paying attention.
    I can tell, but its woefully short. I hope you don't equivocate a hypothetical Biden cabinet members and executive heads will be the same as the current shitshow.
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    If you guys are going to play with the burner accounts can you at least report them so the cleanup happens faster? You've made the last 10 pages of this thread unreadable.
    Sorry, it's like smoking a cigarette - you get that hit of dopamine but you and the people around you have to put up with the smoke and risk of cancer.

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