Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Levelfive]

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Biden's not progressive enough--elect Trump!

[Levelfive]

Trump is not conservative enough--elect Biden!

Sounds good! Glad you're finally on board! Maybe you can go try to interfere in some other country's election now.

[Ghostpanther]

Here is a list of pointers that show Biden is pretty much a Republican:

• You know how you hate government programs? So does Biden! He proudly supported cutting social security many times!
• Biden is tough on immigration! He even helped pioneer the cages and helped deport millions of people and also supported a wall!
• Biden loves the police and putting minorities in prison, check out his long history on criminal justice!
• Biden is personally responsible for seating conservative supreme court justice Clarence Thomas and voted to confirm Scalia!
• Biden doesn’t think it’s always a woman’s right to choose! He even voted to allow states to overturn Roe v. Wade!
• Biden loves bombing the middle east! He proudly helped push the Iraq War and supported George Bush!
• Biden supported the Defense of Marriage Act to keep gay people from getting married!
• Drill baby, drill! Biden loves offshore drilling and fracking!
• In the 2018 Midterm Elections Biden campaigned for and helped GOP / Republican Candidates get elected over Democratic candidates. Even going so far as endorsing Republicans over Democrats. He was paid several hundreds thousand of dollars for this by the Republican Party.

But he has changed.

Besides, I do not think he will be running the show anyway.

This movie moment comes to mind.....only there will be no one in white to save him......

[Felya]

Trump is not conservative enough--elect Biden!

No one is saying this...

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But he has changed.

You acted like you didn’t support or even like Trump, then was going berserk celebrating and insulting people the day he won. A better explanation, if you agree that Biden is conservative, why are you voting Trump?

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In the 2018 Midterm Elections Biden campaigned for and helped GOP / Republican Candidates get elected over Democratic candidates. Even going so far as endorsing Republicans over Democrats. He was paid several hundreds thousand of dollars for this by the Republican Party.

I don’t know why linking to your old post, misrepresenting Biden praising someone for their work on cancer, means the above. Yeah, with Biden, maybe government will do their job, instead of calling a GOP member arsonist, for cancer research. This is why Trump followers have warped perception. Trump attacking everyone around him, instead of doing his job, is not normal.

Seriously, during the pandemic, where Trump couldn’t handle warnings, believing it was all a hoax to make him look bad by everyone. Do you really think showing Biden support a GOP member’s work on cancer, even during a primary season, a good way to attack Biden? You do understand that Americans are not interested in your use of our government, for your entertainment?

[kaelleria]

Imagine thinking reddit upvotes are remotely representative of the voting population.

This primary season has definitively proven it is not.

[Felya]

This still isn't true. This isn't Trumpland where you can repeat something ad nauseam until people just magically start believing it.

The goals should be blatantly clear. This is an individual that thinks DNC and RNC should just attack each other, without merit. As if every American politician needs to turn into Trump, to further cement the division. Cancer research is good, regardless of who is successful with it, or if there are midterms with Trump politics dictate you need to insult to win.

This shit used to be admirable, but Trump has made insulting and blaming opponents the norm. Cancer research > Dunking on political opponents. Can we at least agree with that? Before Trump it would be easy to do...

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Imagine thinking reddit upvotes are remotely representative of the voting population.

It’s like saying election polling is incomplete, because we don’t get a world wide opinion. Without even a sense of irony, from the same people bitching about globalization...

But, then again, they consider a world wide corporation, pushing the solution to globalization, because without trade deals our benevolent corporate overlords will bring our work back. It totally won’t be like the 80s, where unregulated access to trade becoming more efficient, resulted in massive profits and layoffs. People like to act like NAFTA caused Detroit work issues, instead of slowing it down:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_%26_Me

Moore portrays the regional economic impact of General Motors CEO Roger Smith's action of closing several auto plants in his hometown of Flint, Michigan, reducing GM's employees in that area from 80,000 in 1978 to about 50,000 in 1992. As of August 2015, GM employs approximately 7,200 workers in the Flint area, according to The Detroit News, and 5,000 workers according to MSNBC

If Flint lost 30000 jobs between 1978 and 1992, before the signing of NAFTA, could NAFTA been a way to stem the job leases due to Reagan’s inability to react to technological advances making trade more efficient?

Sorry to use your post to go off on a tangent. I’m feeling spicy this am... Taking on a very unfavorable opinion, of showing what happened to jobs, to cause NAFTA.

Edit: This is why it’s important to point out why a trade deal is bad. Like the TPP, the issue is the rules:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-...stry_influence

According to de Zayas, the international human rights regime imposes binding legal obligations on countries, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, and trade must be done under the human rights regime. Under the ISDS in the TPP, investors can sue a government, while a government cannot sue investors. De Zayas argued that this asymmetry made the system unfair. He added that international law, including accountability and transparency, must prevail over trade pacts.

One might say, why would countries we agree with, use said agreement to violate human right? Well, one problem:

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), also called the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, was a proposed trade agreement between Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, and the United States signed on 4 February 2016, which was not ratified as required and did not come into effect.

They already do and don’t need further justification in international court. But, guess what... not having a deal at all, doesn’t help solve existing issues in trade. It’s why Trump’s NAFTA is pretty much NAFTA...

[Maneo]

Imagine thinking reddit upvotes are remotely representative of the voting population.

This primary season has definitively proven it is not.

The same applies to twitter, the cesspool of the internet.

[Felya]

The same applies to twitter, the cesspool of the internet.

All of social media... it’s fantastic in both execution and the resource it provides. The issue is that the users manual is ineffective in explaining to people how to use it properly. Even if they did, RTFM is still a thing.

I like this place... not a lot of disembodied heads screaming at me.

[Maneo]

All of social media... it’s fantastic in both execution and the resource it provides. The issue is that the users manual is ineffective in explaining to people how to use it properly. Even if they did, RTFM is still a thing.

I like this place... not a lot of disembodied heads screaming at me.

I loathe social media, at first I just attributed my age for disliking it (GenX).

However now that I use it, I have begun to dislike it even more. Although I love the availability of the information on the internet I think it is infested w/a cancer that is social media.

[unfilteredJW]

I loathe social media, at first I just attributed my age for disliking it (GenX).

However now that I use it, I have begun to dislike it even more. Although I love the availability of the information on the internet I think it is infested w/a cancer that is social media.

Do you also feel the same way about hammers and cars?

[Maneo]

Do you also feel the same way about hammers and cars?

That is quite a stretch lumping social media in w/something like hammers, and cars. If ya wanted to lump it w/TV ya would have a point.. but hammers and cars?

[Fundust]

This still isn't true. This isn't Trumpland where you can repeat something ad nauseam until people just magically start believing it.

No its Bidenland where people like you seem to be fucking stupid to google things.

nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html

[Fundust]

They are also ignoring the part where:
A) The Republican Party paid him money for that speech, for an audience which he knew was going to be conservatives and older people
B) It was a few weeks before the midterm elections, causing the local Democratic Party to urge Biden to reconsider, which he refused
C) He praised Republicans, which the Democratic Party asked him to take back, which he also refused
D) He did not endorse the local Democratic candidate
E) It probably is one of the main reasons why the Republican candidate won the election there during the midterms

I mean, the article is linked right there for anyone to read in the post. This is them literally putting their fingers in their ears in denial (which has been the trend over the last 217 pages...)

Not to mention that Biden has helped appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court. At this point there seems to be almost no reason for anyone informed to vote for Biden unless they're a conservative / republican.

I find this really strange, supporting a candidate from another party brings immediate dismissal from the host party in most civilized countries.

[JohnBrown1917]

I find this really strange, supporting a candidate from another party brings immediate dismissal from the host party in most civilized countries.

Would get them kicked out in any country that is not the US.. or maybe the UK.

[Levelfive]

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Yeah, getting Republicans elected is Rochana's job.

[Acidbaron]

Do you also feel the same way about hammers and cars?

Has social media been an overall useful tool to us?

What was it purpose and has it achieved that?

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Would get them kicked out in any country that is not the US.. or maybe the UK.

Rochana is not American, what makes these tirades of him being concerned about the essence of the democratic party all the more weirder.

I am still wondering how losing an election is good for the democratic party and all those movements they carry.

[unfilteredJW]

That is quite a stretch lumping social media in w/something like hammers, and cars. If ya wanted to lump it w/TV ya would have a point.. but hammers and cars?

A tool is a tool.

Finding a tool not useful for you makes sense. Hating it makes you look silly.

[Maneo]

A tool is a tool.

Finding a tool not useful for you makes sense. Hating it makes you look silly.

Whatever, but I think you are inflating the "usefulness" of social media

[JohnBrown1917]

Yeah, getting Republicans elected is Rochana's job.

beautiful display of ignoring your favorites doing what you claim other people do, I give a 8 out of 10.

[Levelfive]

beautiful display of ignoring your favorites doing what you claim other people do, I give a 8 out of 10.

Who are my "favorites," out of curiosity?