Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[szechuan]

also i wonder if the fact that liberals are more worried about covid than republicans effected turnout

Voter Turnout this time was garbage.

[AntiFascistVoter]

looks like a trump loyalist won ca 25, not a good sign
also i wonder if the fact that liberals are more worried about covid than republicans effected turnout

I think it's still a little early to tell. Seeing at #CA25 results reporting, clearly we've still learned nothing from how to report results of elections with heavy mail-in.

How hard is this? It was borderline disastrous in 2018 with how the #AZSen results were reported, many pointed out it had to change, it's May 2020, & yet we're still seeing mentions of "% reporting" based on how many precincts report some results, as if it's all of it. Not only are thousands of late-arriving ballots, but it will take days to count the mail-in ballots received today. And the late ballots often change the initial Election Day perceived result.

And that's going to be a catastrophe come Nov., if elections are tight & the world is watching & networks/media reports what's left so erroneously.

[szechuan]

I think it's still a little early to tell.

Garcia has a 12 point lead.

[PACOX]

Can someone please explain to me why neither Trump nor Biden will endorse legalizing weed? It’s such an easy way to get a lot of votes, but neither one will do it. Could it possibly be because they both have buddies that profit from weed being illegal?

Biden coopted the War on Drugs.

Trump's circle demonizes weed like its the worst thing in the world because they associate it with minorities and hippies. Coincidently (not) they are 1 or 2 degrees or separation from someone with a coke and/or opioid addiction.

Both will gladly sell their position to the highest bidder.

[Telogrus]

Because I'm willing to bet that there the polling and focus group testing indicates that there are very few single issue voters on the matter to grab, and a whole lot more to potentially lose.



No, it's because it's just not as important nationally as a lot of the pro-legalization crowd thinks. I'm all for legalizing it, or at the very least decriminalizing it. I live in CA, it's been "legal" for well over a decade and legal for 2-3 years now and it's been just fine.

But the reality is that it's not an issue that plays on the national stage.

You come out and say you're pro-legalization, you're not gonna energize a ton of voters who show up to the polls.

You come out and say you're pro-life and you're gonna get a huge amount of support from single-issue voters on the matter.

Who is so against weed legalization that it would make them change who they’re supporting? You’d have to be the Karen of Karens to be that passionately anti-weed

[AntiFascistVoter]

Good News:
AOC will be serving on Biden's climate policy committee. "She believes the movement will only be successful if we continue to apply pressure both inside and outside the system. This is just one element of the broader fight for just policies," a spokeswoman said.


Bernie Reddit will most likely have another meltdown.

Meltdown May is here.

[Goatlisp]

if Biden is pressured and lobbied by the party to do something and he feels there is popular support he will do it.

Why? That didn't happen with Obama, Clinton, Blair etc. What exactly makes you think that something that never happened at all in the last 40 years will happen now with the least progressive candidate the Democrats have ever put up?

There's no pressure on Biden to do anything in office other than the bidding of Wall St. If he gets in he will by definition have proved he can just ignore the progressives. Which won't happen anyway because he's inevitably going to lose with his appeal to no one.

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And that's going to be a catastrophe come Nov., if elections are tight & the world is watching & networks/media reports what's left so erroneously.

Translation for those who don't speak corporate democrat "I am covering my arse for the inevitable loss in November".

[Levelfive]

looks like a trump loyalist won ca 25, not a good sign
also i wonder if the fact that liberals are more worried about covid than republicans effected turnout

It had been Republican for decades before Hill, but yeah between that and, as you note, the political lines around the virus, it's tough to read.

[Acidbaron]

Good News:
AOC will be serving on Biden's climate policy committee. "She believes the movement will only be successful if we continue to apply pressure both inside and outside the system. This is just one element of the broader fight for just policies," a spokeswoman said.


Bernie Reddit will most likely have another meltdown.

Meltdown May is here.

It is common sense that you get more done from within than from the outside, that is what many people don't seem to get who are blind supporters of a lost democrat nominee. Still to hear a good reasoning behind how you lose more from winning the presidency than losing it.

[arandomuser]

It had been Republican for decades before Hill, but yeah between that and, as you note, the political lines around the virus, it's tough to read.

'Tracking data shows a significant voting gap along generational lines. Roughly 56% of voters 65 and older returned a mail ballot. Just 19% of those younger than 35 did so.'

looks like all registered voters got a mail in ballot but young people didnt return it.. wow like i just dont understand the indifference from millenials

[Hobb]

looks like a trump loyalist won ca 25, not a good sign
also i wonder if the fact that liberals are more worried about covid than republicans effected turnout

Voter turn out was rather abysmal, only 141,000 people voted compared to the 2018 election where 245,000 voted.

Personally I wouldn't of shown up to vote since the seat is back up for election in just 6 months, kind of pointless.

[Firslaps]

looks like all registered voters got a mail in ballot but young people didnt return it.. wow like i just dont understand the indifference from millenials

It is almost like they see no point in casting a vote for two parties that have the same policies and don't give a fuck about them.

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It is common sense that you get more done from within than from the outside, that is what many people don't seem to get who are blind supporters of a lost democrat nominee. Still to hear a good reasoning behind how you lose more from winning the presidency than losing it.

The "common sense" that led to Trump being elected in the first place.

[Ghostpanther]

'Tracking data shows a significant voting gap along generational lines. Roughly 56% of voters 65 and older returned a mail ballot. Just 19% of those younger than 35 did so.'

looks like all registered voters got a mail in ballot but young people didnt return it.. wow like i just dont understand the indifference from millenials

That has always been the case. And people generally become more conservative as they age. Biden needs to have the younger generation to turn out in big numbers, or he is screwed.

[Felya]

Can someone please explain to me why neither Trump nor Biden will endorse legalizing weed? It’s such an easy way to get a lot of votes, but neither one will do it. Could it possibly be because they both have buddies that profit from weed being illegal?

No, it’s because supporting legal weed, will harm them in the south. Plus, it’s legal in so many places now, the proponents don’t really care if southern states join in. There is also the thing where pot heads don’t vote... even Simpsons had an episode making fun of it...

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That has always been the case. And people generally become more conservative as they age. Biden needs to have the younger generation to turn out in big numbers, or he is screwed.

Well, considering corona’s highest risk demographics and Trump not giving a shit... do you think there will be enough old people to vote for Trump by November?

[Acidbaron]

That has always been the case. And people generally become more conservative as they age. Biden needs to have the younger generation to turn out in big numbers, or he is screwed.

Too bad conservatism in the US is dead, i have yet to see one conservative value that a modern day republican believes in and adheres to. That party is going to face one big identity crisis in the coming decade.

[Muzjhath]

That has always been the case. And people generally become more conservative as they age. Biden needs to have the younger generation to turn out in big numbers, or he is screwed.

Bold is a fallacy. People don't get more conservative, they stay the same while younger generations get more progressive.

[Lenonis]

Bold is a fallacy. People don't get more conservative, they stay the same while younger generations get more progressive.

Shhhh. Don't shatter their hope. It's the only thing they have left as they lose more and more power as their base dies off.

[AntiFascistVoter]

NEW this morning: Biden and Sanders roll out the members of the 6 Unity Task Forces that will offer recommendations to the DNC platform committee and to Biden.
Includes quite a few progressive:




These Unity Task Forces are a good move for Biden. There are some real heavy hitters on there which shows they are taking this seriously, it’s not for show.
A big change from the 2016 unity commissions, when Bernie selected dumb bomb-throwers like Nina Turner and Nomiki Konst.

They got people interested in policy, not reddit likes.
Socialist cosplayers will be nonetheless, disappointed.

[Sunseeker]

Take note Bernie supporters.

Is it actually physically possible for you to make a post that isn't directly or indirectly shitting on Bernie supporters?

And yes, I noticed you edited it.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Is it actually physically possible for you to make a post that isn't directly or indirectly shitting on Bernie supporters?

And yes, I noticed you edited it.

Grats, on not "All Bernie supporters".

Noticed, you guys still ignore policy talk.