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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that a lot left because the Republicans didn't do enough for Trump in terms of overturning election results. Getting ready for the Patriot Party and such.
    I suspect a lot of them are probably people who are only Republicans because of Trump. At least all the public departures I've seen have been long-time members fed up with catering to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    That's the thing. Based on everything that's happened they aren't worried about being primaried. They like his brand of politics. Prove me wrong.
    They're worried about being primaried by trumpsters. I think the party heads like McConnell are more worried about long-term solvency, while the more cut-and-run spineless ones like Cruz and so forth are at least temporary placated by knowing they can wipe their hands clean of having to have been seen as condemning Trump for his crimes. But I think the McConnell types are a little more prescient in seeing that Trump and his brand cost them the 2020 election and the senate, all in one fell swoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Ted Cruz is angling to be McConnell one day. McConnell is looking at his final term(in all likelihood).
    I don't know that Cruz has it in him. He always seemed like quite the... well, bumbling oaf type of evil to McConnel's more shrewd evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I don't know that Cruz has it in him. He always seemed like quite the... well, bumbling oaf type of evil to McConnel's more shrewd evil.
    And fact that Cruz would never be elected party leader.

    Everyone hates Cruz except for (maybe) himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    And fact that Cruz would never be elected party leader.

    Everyone hates Cruz except for (maybe) himself.
    I'd love to hear how he rationalizes himself.

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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Domination...kinky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I think it’s less that they’re scared of any personal backlash or violence these crazy people might perpetrate and more that they realize these trump goons and their god-king are bad for business... whether it be bad for their own personal investments and industry, re-election, or the power they enjoy as the GOP loses power and influence.

    So they’re scared, in a sense, but purely for self-interested reasons.
    I did understand you meant out of self-preservation, and I think that's true for some of them, for sure. I also think some of them are wholly invested in what's really just a continuation of the anti-democratic project that has defined Republicanism for many decades. The threat of insurrection comes solely from the right; I think they know their refusal to hold Trump accountable invites another, and I don't necessarily think that's an accident.
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    While local GOPs in pretty much all the states in the US had gone into the deep end of right fringe movement after the November election. California GOP pulled back. They kicked the qanon spouting and Trump loving Shannon Grove of Bakersfield from Senate minority leader position and replaced her with Scott Wilk of Santa Clarita. Santa Clarita is basically a suburb of Los Angeles. Wilk is a moderate. He is so moderate that he turned down a co-chair position on the recall campaign against Newsom and openly said that the proper time to oust Newsom is during the 2022 election.

    The party probably would have kicked Grove regardless. The national news only talked about the 4 Congressional seats that the GOP won in CA. However, at the local level, two GOP Senate seats were lost in the November election. Democrats now control the State Senate by 31 to 9. GOP won one and lose one in the Assembly, and Democrats control the Assembly 59 to 19 with one vacancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    And fact that Cruz would never be elected party leader.

    Everyone hates Cruz except for (maybe) himself.
    McConnell was shrewd enough to realize he’s not presidential material. Cruz has brains but not enough brains to keep his ego in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    McConnell was shrewd enough to realize he’s not presidential material. Cruz has brains but not enough brains to keep his ego in check.
    “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you,” Lindsey Graham, 2016 election.

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    If Cruz had an ego it certainly didn't show when his was wife was insulted.

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    Trump got acquitted not once, but twice ffs. What's the world coming to?
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    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Republicans in Pennsylvania tried to overturn the election results in 2020, but their state Supreme Court stopped them, so now the Republicans are going to try to change the way judges in the state are elected so they can try to overturn the next election results that they don't like.

    Pennsylvania GOP's Push for More Power Over Judiciary Raises Alarms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    If Cruz had an ego it certainly didn't show when his was wife was insulted.
    Heidi Cruz is not Ted Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Heidi Cruz is not Ted Cruz.
    Are we sure? I've never seen them both in the same room together.

    It could just be Ted in a dress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Are we sure? I've never seen them both in the same room together.

    It could just be Ted in a dress.
    Also explains his awful beard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockybalboa View Post
    Trump got acquitted not once, but twice ffs. What's the world coming to?
    Just showing that Republicans don't have a set of balls between all 43 that voted to acquit.

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    If Ted Cruz actually punched Trump in the nose in defense of the mother of his children I'd have...less disrespect for him


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    If Ted Cruz actually punched Trump in the nose in defense of the mother of his children I'd have...less disrespect for him
    If ted cruz was the type of guy who would punch trump in the nose to defend her, she would have never fallen in love with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    If ted cruz was the type of guy who would punch trump in the nose to defend her, she would have never fallen in love with him.
    That doesn't speak well of her either.
    Although if she punched Trump on the nose it sure would reveal who had the balls...

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