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    ......I wish we had a better way to deal with bad faith posters.

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    @Gunistan @Furdristal, if you would just stop spamming and have a calm reasonable debate you wouldn't have to make a new account every five seconds. You should take a chill pill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    You mean Trump? The one who has been removing environmental protections so companies can dump their garbage for profit?
    Yeah, and he is the president. /shrug

    It’s like they want a left wing version of Trump, which at least implies issues don’t mater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    @Furdristal, if you would just stop spamming and have a calm reasonable debate you wouldn't have to make a new account every five seconds. You should take a chill pill...
    It’s compulsive... just sayin’... Saying ‘take a chill pill’ implies that this is a singular event, not something that happens almost every couple of hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furdristal View Post
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    I'm sorry but what?
    I have a fan. Seems he was permabanned.
    Yo, don't mind my "street talk"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It’s compulsive... just sayin’... Saying ‘take a chill pill’ implies that this is a singular event, not something that happens almost every couple of hours.
    Too much hysteria.

    BTW is Skroe permanently gone or what? Last I saw he was threatening to guillotine somebody...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Too much hysteria.

    BTW is Skroe permanently gone or what? Last I saw he was threatening to guillotine somebody...
    After this long I would say yes, but it's possible he just had THAT many points that it might be awhile.
    I have a fan. Seems he was permabanned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunistan View Post
    You have made it clear you intend to vote for Biden, which proves my point.
    Your point remains unproven given I haven't at all made it clear that I intend to vote for Biden. Mainly because I literally can't vote for Biden. If you retained information from one account to the next, you'd possibly recall that I've told you before that I'm not American. You and I remain in this country that is currently only famous for the shitshow that is Brexit, my friend.

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    President Donald Trump has spent $21m on advertising - nearly three times his Democratic candidate rival Joe Biden - since general election campaign started
    US President Donald Trump has been outspending his democratic rival Joe Biden three to one in campaign advertisements since the pair resumed active campaigning in April.

    Since Senator Bernie Saunders dropped out of the race on April 8, presumptive democratic candidate Joe Biden has spent $8million on solely online advertising.

    Meanwhile, President Trump and the allied Make America Great Again Committee have spent $21million, almost half of which went on TV commercials, reported Fox News.
    Ignoring that the source is the Daily Fail, how has Biden only spent $8m? That said, I'm surprised Trump hasn't spent more.

    Still kinda gross the amount of money spent on such a disgustingly long election cycle, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    After this long I would say yes, but it's possible he just had THAT many points that it might be awhile.
    It's weird how inconsistent they are about permabans for calling for death. I'm fine with Skroe getting a perma-ban, but certain other posters have called for death on multiple occasions, and are still here. Hell, one poster has done it at least twice, plagiarized multiple times, and even ran a burner account, and she's still running around. We've had another poster that said Hitler didn't go far enough, and what he did should have been done to every religion. She's also still running around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Well Trump is a nationalist and I don't have any major policy disagreements with him. I've supported the majority, but not all, of his policy decisions so far. Democrats are more about liberalism which is also very good, I agree with most all liberal values as well. They both have some strengths and weaknesses IMO.
    Well said. I agree with some of the liberal values, but not all. And there are times when I disagree with Trump. But I do not agree it hardly matters who is in power within the government. Who is, shapes what the US is and stands for. Not just the President of course, but a combination of Congress and very importantly, the courts. Esp. the Supreme Court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Well Trump is a nationalist and I don't have any major policy disagreements with him. I've supported the majority, but not all, of his policy decisions so far. Democrats are more about liberalism which is also very good, I agree with most all liberal values as well. They both have some strengths and weaknesses IMO.
    So you have no problem with the US turning into China or Russia, well, good to hear you're honest at least.
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    it’s mostly a syndicalist fantasy that “the workers” are going to rise up, which is disconnected from the fact that “the workers” are your racist uncle and jerk co-workers who you don’t like.
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    The election has passed and 58 million working class Americans stood up and proved that they are in fact your racist uncle and jerk co-workers.
    They really can't help but show disdain for the working class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    So you have no problem with the US turning into China or Russia, well, good to hear you're honest at least.
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.
    Trump wants national socialism.

    If he actually wanted what you claimed, then he wouldn't be trying to hire immigrants for all his properties. You Trumpsters got conned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho.
    There is literally nothing about socialist values that suggests nationalism is an appropriate path to take. If anything, those values push against nationalist sentiments, since nationalism fundamentally demands an inequitable, abusive, exploitative approach to dealing with immigrants and foreign relations.

    Don't confuse your desire for fascism for having any connection to socialist thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.
    “New normal” is an oxymoron...

    Why does Trump have business all over the world? Are you sure he doesn’t want to remove trade deals, so that he can exploit trade more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's weird how inconsistent they are about permabans for calling for death. I'm fine with Skroe getting a perma-ban, but certain other posters have called for death on multiple occasions, and are still here. Hell, one poster has done it at least twice, plagiarized multiple times, and even ran a burner account, and she's still running around. We've had another poster that said Hitler didn't go far enough, and what he did should have been done to every religion. She's also still running around.
    Hi! Yes it's me Skroe. Another poster can verify here via email if you want. Or send me a forum PM to 'Skroe'.

    No. It wasn't for the guillotine comment (that was just the last infraction). Especially since I pretty clearly said I didn't want to get to that point.

    What it was, was the lifetime infraction ban. How many infractions does it take to get to the center of MMO-Champion's rule set? 15 pages worth of 5 and 10 point infractions. About 500 points. Funny thing though, back in November/December when a group of us were putting together an indictment of Thwart's time as moderator, I did the math and ~85% of my infractions were both since 2017 and from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's weird how inconsistent they are about permabans for calling for death. I'm fine with Skroe getting a perma-ban, but certain other posters have called for death on multiple occasions, and are still here. Hell, one poster has done it at least twice, plagiarized multiple times, and even ran a burner account, and she's still running around. We've had another poster that said Hitler didn't go far enough, and what he did should have been done to every religion. She's also still running around.
    Hi! Yes it's me Skroe. Another poster can verify here via email if you want. Or send me a forum PM to 'Skroe'.

    No. It wasn't for the guillotine comment (that was just the last infraction). Especially since I pretty clearly said I didn't want to get to that point.

    What it was, was the lifetime infraction ban. How many infractions does it take to get to the center of MMO-Champion's rule set? 15 pages worth of 5 and 10 point infractions. About 500 points. Funny thing though, back in November/December when a group of us were putting together an indictment of Thwart's time as moderator, I did the math and ~85% of my infractions were both since 2017 and from him.


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    Truth be told though, a lot of my infractions lately (post-Thwart) were from how I write, which as you know, is extremely aggressively toned. I even got a PM a while ago from a mod trying to warn me to take a softer tone. I ignored it. Fact is, politics is a brawl and this site is (even with the recent changes to titles I see) is living in a dreamland about how political discourse could be, and should be conducted. Why have a politics forum if you aren't willing to deal with relentless rhetoric and political mockings? A refused to be drawn into a game of posting this forum in the neutral tone of wikipedia. That shit is for the birds. And I happily took every infraction with it. I legitimately didn't give two fucks about those ones. If you believe something, You don't hold back. You never stop. This forum's management approach to how political poles should engage? Juvenile and naive. This is not 7th grade civics class.

    I don't hold anything against the new mods for doing their jobs though. And I'm not going to be playing the burner account game. If anything I miss the ability to start threads on space, such as Wednesday's launch, which I encourage everyone to watch. I'm kind of glad I haven't been around to post about COVID-19. 100,000 dead as of today. Probably 250,000+ before it is all over. And Trump just twitter trolls. It is horrifying. I wouldn't have been able to control myself. I'm afraid for my family, sad for my country and beyond furious at Trump and his cult.

    Really, it puts into perspective how decadent and depraved Trump and his troll base is. Never doubt how crimes against humanity happen in other countries. How one community stands by while another is killed. It happened here in a sense. It is still happening.

    To be honest I don't want to argue with the trolls (and now that I'm doing a one-off burner for now, I will just call them that) like I have since 2016. This is so much greater than anything I've imagined our country would go through. This isn't a mere financial crisis or natural disaster. This is epoch defining. This is one tiny step below blood-in-the-streets level. Only severe political violence could be on the level of horror of this.

    That is not a word we use enough but should in regards to this. "Horror".

    I used to scoff at the Cold Civil War talk. I do believe it now. The mountain of corpses at the hands of Trump and the MAGATs has convinced me of that. We are living it. They're extremists. They're the greatest extent threat to the Constitution, national security and liberty itself. We have to win and they have to lose. So I'm much more interested in fighting that fight in the real world. Like many people I'm working from home. But I've left my part time job at the PAC I worked at and am planning on volunteering for Biden's campaign when they increase staff in the summer. He's our real life Obiwan Kenobi. And this is our "Galactic Civil War", so to speak.

    Join the Rebel Alliance! Pardon me, flippancy is what little we have to grab onto in the middle of this ocean of death (I'm from Massachusetts, 3rd or 4th worst state for COVID-19 in the union).

    You won't be seeing me around much, if at all. I realized with my permban that I've been posting continuously on one forum for another for almost 20 years and I'm kind of over it, as I think the increasing caustic nature of my posting last fall might have let on. Once it was TrekBBS. Then it was Newsarama. Then it was another place. And since 2011 it was here. I think I'm largely done with this format. I think our inability to get the site owners to treat this place as a site on the internet in 2020 versus a relic from the simpler times of 2008 has burned me out of it. But then again, I suppose the joke really is on them. Remember when MMO-Champ was the go-to place for WoW news? WoWhead made it irrelevant besides the OT forum. The site owners dropped the ball on the site's reason for being, just like everything else. It took Magicfind (who?) to rescue it from a shutdown (for now). I'm sure chaud is working on it though. Maybe he'll put him a gate against burner accounts sometime before 2024. I swear to god the dude couldn't program himself out of a wet paper bag. It's a fucking joke.

    Anyway I just wanted to say a found farewell to my many friends here. I really enjoyed debating and arguing with you. For 11 years you were people whom I looked forward to reading and responding to. I'm sure I pissed a lot of you off. And some of you certainly did me. But you never failed to keep my interest and challenge me, and often educate me, and that was the fun. I learned a lot from you all and you folks made me reevaluate some things I held important. This was a good forum at its peak, and we had a lot interesting times. You all have my respect and I hope you stay healthy and your careers and ambitions work out for you. I'll be rooting for you.

    Will you see me around? I might pop in around the election on a burner to say hi briefly, and of course to twist the knife into the eyeballs of the Trumphadis when Biden wins. But as George Lucas with regards to making movies said "I'm out of the game". I think I made my point and made it as well as I could and learned from excellent people and made excellent friends along the way. What more could anyone doing this sort of thing hope for?

    Best of luck, amigos.

    Also once more for old times sake:

    -We're taking your President Away From you, Trumphadis.
    -The wall is dead and is never coming back (and putting up Obama-style fencing isn't the wall, fuckheads).
    -Donald Trump is a racist and if you support him, so are you.
    -Trump's cult better hope they win forever, because the moment they don't, God help them, because nobody else will.
    -Begun, the New Cold War with China has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.
    We don't have every natural resource no country does so the notion that any country can be entirely self sufficient is delusional. Maybe if you went back a century or two you can have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.
    There's nothing new about mercantilism and imperialism.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Those are closer to the socialist values the liberals have imho. Trump wants the country to be a new normal. A self sufficient country not relying on any other nation for anything. We can be. I dont know of one thing another country produces that we cannot. We also have more scientific advances due to our military spending than any other country.
    Nationalist/fascism is a very different idealogy from socialism. Trump does not want anything of those things, he keeps up the same imprerial policies the other presidents supported.

    And Russia.. socialist? I understand how China can be confusing.. but Russia? lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    it’s mostly a syndicalist fantasy that “the workers” are going to rise up, which is disconnected from the fact that “the workers” are your racist uncle and jerk co-workers who you don’t like.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    The election has passed and 58 million working class Americans stood up and proved that they are in fact your racist uncle and jerk co-workers.
    They really can't help but show disdain for the working class.

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