Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Felya]

https://politicalemails.org/messages/175231

Joe Biden campaigning off the death of George Floyd.

And Since then Joe Biden did what as Vice President to change this?

The police reform Obama passed, that Trump has dismantled. Seriously... You do know Trump dismantled Obama’s police reform? You can’t ask what Biden did, while knowing Trump dismantled Obama’s police reform. You are making an argument that if more time with Trump passes, he will reverse more to cause even more problems.

TLDR: Trump dismantled police reform from.

My other favorite, like a broken record because NOW.....

Not the last 40 years, not while he was Vice President...but NOW is the time!

Again, Obama passed police reform, but Trump dismantled it. The reason to act now, is because Trump will continue to do shit like that.

Plus, we need Trump to inspect other bunkers... for the health of American bunkers, they all need to be inspected and no one has the experience to do it like Trump. 100000 dead, 20% unemployment, protests raging all over the country, but Trump still had the composure to inspect his bunker. What a man... with a body to bare...

I give credit because it denounce the violence and asked for peaceful protest...but also asked for your money. At the bottom of his email is a link to donate for his election.

Indeed, Biden doesn’t have hotels for you to stay at, so he can’t make money by charging secret service to stay on his property. How much did Biden spend on a drugs that increases mortality rates in those with covid? How many millions?

hahahahaha

It’s much funnier that you refuse to discuss Biden’s crime bill or tear gassing protestors. I’m guessing this is as close as we get to a concession of you being wrong?

[Daelak]

I am literally counting days to the first presidential debate. Biden is gaffe-machine that will be steamrolled by Trump so epicly, I kinda feel embarassed and sorry for Mr. Biden already.

How can Dems willingly support Joe "Poor kids are just as smart as white kids" Biden? That lying dog-faced pony soldier

Biden will do fine. He's one point down to Trump in Texas.

[Machismo]

Yeah I'm sure they weren't brainwashed into voting against their interests by billions of dollars of corporate money, as they have been in every election in living memory.

Bernie spent more than Biden.

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That Biden is an unrepentant segregationist is not something any one is actually contesting except you. His long opposition to racial integration is well known. It was discussed during the public debates which somehow you seem to have missed.

You are simply proving the point that the media and corporate money brainwashed Democrat voters into supporting a candidate they know nothing about.

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Biden is even-money with the bookies. If you are so certain that Biden will win re-mortgage your house and make a 100% return on investment. You won't do that because, as you well know, the race is anything but certain.

(I'm not sure why people always pretend their favoured candidate is a certainty to win. It is just stupid. That's not how probability works.)

Evidence, please.

[Daelak]

https://politicalemails.org/messages/175231

Joe Biden campaigning off the death of George Floyd.



And Since then Joe Biden did what as Vice President to change this?

My other favorite, like a broken record because NOW.....

Not the last 40 years, not while he was Vice President...but NOW is the time!

I give credit because it denounce the violence and asked for peaceful protest...but also asked for your money. At the bottom of his email is a link to donate for his election.

hahahahaha

His campaign message is resonating with the American people. Up 4 in Arizona, down one in Texas, tied in Florida, up in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Republicans losing Texas would mean a party-ending loss. No more multi-million dollar fundraisers since there will be no clear path to win the presidency. Splintering of the party, and radicalization, further marginalizing your ideology. Good times ahead.

[Thekri]

https://politicalemails.org/messages/175231

Joe Biden campaigning off the death of George Floyd.

Oh hey, you are back. What is tear gas?

The fact you use totally unique definitions of words is still problematic. When you say "campaigning" what are you referring to? Because I know what Wikipedia says campaigning is, but we all know Wikipedia is written by evil liberals and can't be trusted. So are you referring to a military campaign? Or is Joe Biden going camping?

Help us out here, where are you getting your words from? What Chemicals are Tear Gas, and what aren't? Is CS a tear gas? Is CN?

[kaelleria]

You can see the problem right here in any Trump base story that tries to make the case for him in the general... Trump's got 86% approval from the GOP... but 92% of the Dems (a larger bloc) are against him. And don't forget indies who are also against him

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/...24350107500545

[cubby]

Ok, burner.

On serious matters, check out this new video by the Lincoln Project. It is entitled 'War Zone'.

Damn - they are really going to town. The lack of any attacks ads from Biden's camp or the DNC in general or really any Dem Super-PACs is purposeful, coordinated. And these productions from the Lincoln Project are great. Hitting Donny Dumb Dumb hard while sowing insurrection within the GOP.

[kaelleria]

2016 polling compared to today

Comparing Monmouth from mid-June 2016 and now... Trump's polling better now than then. But Biden's polling much better than Clinton. Trump had a lot of room to grow with GOPers then. Only at 79% then vs. 93% now. And 37% of indies were third party/undecided then. Today, it's 15%.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/...81033445818373

[Thekri]

2016 polling compared to today



https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/...81033445818373

Are there really no third party candidates in the race this time? That seems off for June.

[kaelleria]

Are there really no third party candidates in the race this time? That seems off for June.

None that have been decided... But you can ignore the individual 3rd parties and just look at the voteshare for independents 2020 vs 2016. Biden is running ahead of Trump among independents significantly and there are only 15% undecided/other compared to being basically tied and 37% who were considering other/undecided.

The final results in 2016 ended up with 12% of Independents voting 3rd party... There's basically no room for Trump to grow with indies.

[cubby]

Are there really no third party candidates in the race this time? That seems off for June.

The last thing we need are third party candidates. Trump won't allow them in his GOP Party, and most/all conservatives are afraid to go against Trump's GOP, because if Trump does win, they are fucked. Any left-leaning 3rd party candidate will just take votes away from Biden.

I know that's shitty - and a death knell to future third party creation (unless the GOP implodes after Trump loses). But the math is clear, and we can't afford to let Trump win.

[TACOshake]

The last thing we need are third party candidates. Trump won't allow them in his GOP Party, and most/all conservatives are afraid to go against Trump's GOP, because if Trump does win, they are fucked. Any left-leaning 3rd party candidate will just take votes away from Biden.

I know that's shitty - and a death knell to future third party creation (unless the GOP implodes after Trump loses). But the math is clear, and we can't afford to let Trump win.

People need to be honest about third party candidates... they're awful. They enable bad GOP candidates to win without the popular vote.
2020 has laid their awfulness bare.

• The Libertarians just announced some random lecturer and a podcaster as their ticket.
• The Greens are still trying to decide between an Assad apologist and a Holocaust denier.

Indulging privileged suburban nuts with protest votes is a bad thing. This is the laziest form of civil disobedience. They can barely handle street level protesting or a simple boycott.
Look at most of the high profile Greens. They spend as much time cheerleading for Trump and sniping at Dems as your average GOP voter.

Im sure beltway pundits are super sad with Biden's growing lead. They really want a a third party to "make things interesting!"

I'm betting in 4 weeks, pundits will start pushing a "Trump Comeback". Just because they're bored. Or Trump will have "a presidential moment" after droning some poor people.

Only to have this narrative collapse in the face of a virus wave or hurricane/wildfire.

[Rasulis]

The electoral map is tilting badly against Donald Trump right now

• If Trump loses Texas (and wins everywhere else he won in 2016), he loses to Biden, 270 electoral votes to 268 electoral votes.
• If Trump loses Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (and wins everywhere else he won in 2016), he loses to Biden 278 to 260.
• If Trump loses Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania (and wins everywhere else he won in 2016), he loses to Biden 279 to 259.
• If Trump loses Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin (and wins everywhere else he won in 2016), he loses to Biden 276 to 262.
• If Trump loses Arizona, Ohio and Wisconsin (and wins everywhere else he won in 2016), he loses to Biden 271 to 267.

Blah, blah, blah, CNN, blah, blah, fake news.

[Muzjhath]

And Joe Biden has been in government for 40 years but is NOW committed to ending systemic racism. Just don't bring up the crime bill or anything else in his past. But do not take my word for it, ask the guy he told about the ain't black comment “I think, you know, Biden’s record in the Senate actually reflects very racist legislation, but he has a chance to correct that by doing right by black people.” See it only takes 40 years

Joe Biden talking about Apartheid. And how the US ought to be on the side who try to pull the system down. In 1986.

[kaelleria]

Joe Biden talking about Apartheid. And how the US ought to be on the side who try to pull the system down. In 1986.

bIdEn Is ThE sAmE aS tRuMp!

Meanwhile Trump in 86....

[Trunditch]

Joe Biden talking about Apartheid. And how the US ought to be on the side who try to pull the system down. In 1986.[/URL]

OK for those who a) weren't alive and b) have never read a history book - By 1986 it was clear apartheid's days were already numbered. Even Reagan sent a black guy as ambassador to South Africa to troll them, the rough equivalent of sending a woman ambassador to saudi arabia.

Literally fucking everybody was against apartheid by 1986 who wasn't in the far right. It was like saying you were against torturing kittens or paedophiles or something, it was kind of a minimum threshold for a decent human being.

At least find a clip of Biden criticizing apartheid when the regime had mainstream support in the west. All you are doing with that clip is proving that Biden is a cynical opportunist who speaks out in favour of civil rights when it requires no courage at all.

[Gestopft]

2016 polling compared to today

Woooooow.

As much as I argued against Biden before and during the primary, I have also maintained that it's entirely possible for the Dems to win by simply not running Hillary. These numbers are good so far: not that I'm counting any chickens. I'm still terrified.

[Edge-]

Literally fucking everybody was against apartheid by 1986 who wasn't in the far right. It was like saying you were against torturing kittens or paedophiles or something.

Not gonna bother with further responses but...

House overrides Reagan apartheid veto, Sept. 29, 1986

Guess Reagan liked torturing kittens, and separately liked pedophiles.

Edit: And Reagan supported economic sanctions -

The Reagan administration had sought to impose a set of economic restrictions under a presidential executive order.

[Trunditch]

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Guess Reagan liked torturing kittens, and separately liked pedophiles.

Reagan didn't believe in economic sanctions, thinking they would hurt the very people they were trying to protect. That's not the same as supporting apartheid.

There is a mountain of evidence to support the notion that Reagan opposed apartheid whatever other faults he may have had. I'd have thought you would at least have the intelligence to read the post above and work out that nominating a black ambassador was a fairly obvious fuck you to Pretoria.

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Not gonna bother with further responses but...

You don't make responses because you don't have the intellectual capacity to respond. Like most corporate democrats you use every dirty trick under the sun to marginalize any dissenting viewpoint and then you express this astonishment when you find out the Republicans fight dirtier than you.

[Machismo]

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Great, let's see that mountain of evidence.