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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Yes, because the "civil unrest" is now limited to large, peaceful demonstrations now that the police have stopped actively trying to start riots for the most part.

    Get out of your conservative media bubble, sweetheart. I live in Seattle; it's fucking Woodstock, not Mad Max.
    When you have time, please, do something like this (but with US flags, and native north american flags):

    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    We have civil unrest across the nation and you think its silly to talk civil war?
    You ALWAYS talk civil war and its ALWAYS silly.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    You ALWAYS talk civil war and its ALWAYS silly.
    You will find it much less silly when something like 300k-500k people show up for the Trump rally in Tulsa and demand an immediate end to the BLM stuff. That event will also probably be met with a large BLM contingent and it has the potential to turn into a massive riot on a scale you've not seen.

    The civil war has already started. The BLM protests and riots were just the beginning. Now the Trump rallies will bring bigger protests and riots. We're backsliding into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    You will find it much less silly when something like 300k-500k people show up for the Trump rally in Tulsa
    300k-500k people
    will also probably be met with a large BLM contingent


    Uh huh. The entire population of Tulsa and then some is going to turn out for his little Nuremberg Parade when he could barely swing that many for his inauguration in DC before COVID.

    You're right, it's not silly. It's batshit crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    You will find it much less silly when something like 300k-500k people show up for the Trump rally in Tulsa and demand an immediate end to the BLM stuff. That event will also probably be met with a large BLM contingent and it has the potential to turn into a massive riot on a scale you've not seen.

    The civil war has already started. The BLM protests and riots were just the beginning. Now the Trump rallies will bring bigger protests and riots. We're backsliding into it.
    Of course, that's exactly what Stephen Miller is hoping for, and Trump, too, once Miller explained it to him. Nothing like deliberately hoping to set off some racial violence in Tulsa on Juneteenth as a play for some white votes. What very fine people they and their supporters are. And who knows, maybe you'll finally get your wish because people like me are sick to fucking death of this alt right, white victim-whoring bullshit and are starting to look forward to these assholes showing up armed at our literal and metaphorical doorstep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Of course, that's exactly what Stephen Miller is hoping for, and Trump, too, once Miller explained it to him. Nothing like deliberately hoping to set off some racial violence in Tulsa on Juneteenth as a play for some white votes. What very fine people they and their supporters are. And who knows, maybe you'll finally get your wish because people like me are sick to fucking death of this alt right, white victim-whoring bullshit and are starting to look forward to these assholes showing up armed at our literal and metaphorical doorstep.
    I'm just gonna say it: the right wing in America is afraid of losing their power and privilege because they're afraid they'll be treated how they treat minorities. And I suspect that's a significant source of White Fragility induced responses - fear that acknowledging complicity merits punishment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    lol fox news
    and right wing media are desperately trying to tie joe biden to to the protestors and antifa, and far left activists, this is why all the analysts said not to nominate bernie.
    Anyways who would be the dem party standard bearer in 2024IF they did move left ( i think joe will only serve 1 term if he wins)
    liz warren is 70 bernie is 78 AOC is too young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I'm just gonna say it: the right wing in America is afraid of losing their power and privilege because they're afraid they'll be treated how they treat minorities. And I suspect that's a significant source of White Fragility induced responses - fear that acknowledging complicity merits punishment.
    They see it as zero sum they think if others gain something they are also by definition losing something
    when the truth is more complicated redlining and zoning laws that created the suburbs to exclude POC also hurt poor whites in those districts, if republicans actually dropped the trump white grievances they could make inroads in urban areas, i think some people in california do want less regulations/taxes/spending but dont like the GOP social platform, but it seems like the biggest problem is the electoral college because that sells in michigan/ohio/winsconsin, thats why i still think he is favored to win even though general election polls have him down 8 points,

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    In one corner we got a senile old racist/rapist and in the other corner, we got another senile old racist/rapist?


    Which one will win? We don't know! Oh the excitement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post


    Uh huh. The entire population of Tulsa and then some is going to turn out for his little Nuremberg Parade when he could barely swing that many for his inauguration in DC before COVID.

    You're right, it's not silly. It's batshit crazy.
    Remember Trump claimed to have the largest inaugural crowd ever and that it didn't rain on that day, despite evidence of the contrary and these clods believed it. The BOK center only holds 19K yet Trump is claiming they sold 200-300K tickets. Idiots will believe anything they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naveum71 View Post
    In one corner we got a senile old racist/rapist and in the other corner, we got another senile old racist/rapist?


    Which one will win? We don't know! Oh the excitement!
    Nice burner again. Neither have been convicted of rape so you cannot label either as rapists.

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    They claimed 200k-300k ticket requests, not sales, and there's little reason to doubt that a very pent up public eager to lawfully participate in politics again has a lot of interests. But go off, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    You will find it much less silly when something like 300k-500k people show up for the Trump rally in Tulsa and demand an immediate end to the BLM stuff. That event will also probably be met with a large BLM contingent and it has the potential to turn into a massive riot on a scale you've not seen.
    Why aren’t they turning out at the protests, if they have such a problem? It looks like the silent majority is currently protesting in the streets. While Trump supporters will have to sign a document, saying Trump is full of shit and is afraid his supporters getting ill, will cost him money.

    The civil war has already started. The BLM protests and riots were just the beginning. Now the Trump rallies will bring bigger protests and riots. We're backsliding into it.
    Why are these protests waiting for a Trump rally, in a state that doesn’t have these major protests? Are you sure they are not hiding in bunkers or swimming into the pacific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Remember Trump claimed to have the largest inaugural crowd ever and that it didn't rain on that day, despite evidence of the contrary and these clods believed it. The BOK center only holds 19K yet Trump is claiming they sold 200-300K tickets. Idiots will believe anything they want to.
    Yep, and I believe these 200-300k had to sign off liability from the center and Trump’s staff. Each and every single one, will need to sign a document, that pretty much states that Trump supporters are at risk of getting the hoax covid, which creates a financial problem for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    Anyways who would be the dem party standard bearer in 2024IF they did move left ( i think joe will only serve 1 term if he wins)
    liz warren is 70 bernie is 78 AOC is too young.
    Biden’s VP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Of course, that's exactly what Stephen Miller is hoping for, and Trump, too, once Miller explained it to him. Nothing like deliberately hoping to set off some racial violence in Tulsa on Juneteenth as a play for some white votes. What very fine people they and their supporters are. And who knows, maybe you'll finally get your wish because people like me are sick to fucking death of this alt right, white victim-whoring bullshit and are starting to look forward to these assholes showing up armed at our literal and metaphorical doorstep.
    NASCAR banned confederate symbols, resulting in no protests about BLM going too far or some shit. There have been 2 weeks of protests, with Trump going from bunker to extending White House perimeter... while his kid is hunting in Africa, on tax payer dime.

    I don’t see a Trump rally being the watershed moment for Trump supporters, when in a week, kneeling to the flag is supported by NFL and NASCAR banned confederate symbols. This will be the moment going too far? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    The civil war has already started. The BLM protests and riots were just the beginning. Now the Trump rallies will bring bigger protests and riots. We're backsliding into it.
    Trump moves his Tulsa rally from Juneteenth to June 20 'out of respect'
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=71231688

    Womp womp... civil war still not happening...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Nice burner again. Neither have been convicted of rape so you cannot label either as rapists.
    Yes you can, you can say what you like and make up your own mind. There's no particular reason why you should respect a legal system so massively skewed in favour of wealth and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voidwelp View Post
    Yes you can, you can say what you like and make up your own mind. There's no particular reason why you should respect a legal system so massively skewed in favour of wealth and power.
    Biden sponsored Violence against women act, that provided billions to women seeking to persecute their wealthy assailants. It’s reinastment passed the House in March 2019, but has been blocked by GOP from a senate vote. Not sure how claiming Biden and Trump are the same, is going to help women in a legal system favoring wealth... when one passed a bill to provide funding to women and the other’s party is blocking it from a vote.
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  14. #6154
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    The fact that they claimed something is reason enough to doubt the claim, since ya know, they are habitual liars.
    Then why make up something else to accuse them of?

    It's kinda like the "George Floyd would be happy" thing - it's an abject, verifiable lie to say Trump said George Floyd would be happy about the employment numbers, but it would have been too... I dunno, understated or esoteric to just rip on Trump for the mere tackiness of invoking Floyd's name at all or visiting on his spiritual perceptions of the protest movement (what Trump actually said he'd be proud of/pleased by). Had to make up something else completely. It's a really deranged pathos.

  15. #6155
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Why aren’t they turning out at the protests, if they have such a problem? It looks like the silent majority is currently protesting in the streets. While Trump supporters will have to sign a document, saying Trump is full of shit and is afraid his supporters getting ill, will cost him money.



    Why are these protests waiting for a Trump rally, in a state that doesn’t have these major protests? Are you sure they are not hiding in bunkers or swimming into the pacific?

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    Yep, and I believe these 200-300k had to sign off liability from the center and Trump’s staff. Each and every single one, will need to sign a document, that pretty much states that Trump supporters are at risk of getting the hoax covid, which creates a financial problem for Trump.

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    Biden’s VP...

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    NASCAR banned confederate symbols, resulting in no protests about BLM going too far or some shit. There have been 2 weeks of protests, with Trump going from bunker to extending White House perimeter... while his kid is hunting in Africa, on tax payer dime.

    I don’t see a Trump rally being the watershed moment for Trump supporters, when in a week, kneeling to the flag is supported by NFL and NASCAR banned confederate symbols. This will be the moment going too far? What?

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    Trump moves his Tulsa rally from Juneteenth to June 20 'out of respect'
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=71231688

    Womp womp... civil war still not happening...
    There isn't 200-300k that bought tickets to a location that only holds 19K is my point. But yes the liability release is hilarious and anyone who get sick deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voidwelp View Post
    Yes you can, you can say what you like and make up your own mind. There's no particular reason why you should respect a legal system so massively skewed in favour of wealth and power.
    Seriously dude. Seek professional help. You need it. I never said I was in favor of it. I just said you cannot legally claim they are taoist and potentially open your self to defamation lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormdash View Post
    They claimed 200k-300k ticket requests, not sales, and there's little reason to doubt that a very pent up public eager to lawfully participate in politics again has a lot of interests. But go off, etc.
    You do realise there are several active social media campaigns to buy out all the seats and not attend so the rally will be empty, right?

    Lol. Again, hun; the silent majority myth has finally been put down. Just accept you are in a minority ruling by force of arms, not a democratic mandate.

    Y’all are the redcoats of this little drama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Lincoln project and david frum/george conway/rick wilson are really carrying democrats on the ads
    when i watch a act blue ad its always lame as hell and-but a lincoln project ad usually hit harder,
    also they seem to have been able to effectively troll donald trump and his supporters, something the left has failed at since you know were not very good at trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I'm just gonna say it: the right wing in America is afraid of losing their power and privilege because they're afraid they'll be treated how they treat minorities. And I suspect that's a significant source of White Fragility induced responses - fear that acknowledging complicity merits punishment.
    100% agreed. I've said the same thing here myself. The thing that keeps amazing me is that this highly anti-social subset of the population has all the oblivious confidence of people who don't have any clue which role their "Confederacy-rising" chucklefuckery plays in this drama, even though there's no shortage of historical evidence that they're on the losing side, just like they were in the civil war and just like they were in WWII. But if they're determined to go for it, by all means. They too can end up, if they're lucky, as a family secret, or maybe even a clipped obituary, hidden in a box in the attic marked "junk."

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    Lincoln project and david frum/george conway/rick wilson are really carrying democrats on the ads
    when i watch a act blue ad its always lame as hell and-but a lincoln project ad usually hit harder,
    also they seem to have been able to effectively troll donald trump and his supporters, something the left has failed at since you know were not very good at trolling
    Their stuff is amazing--Democrats should have gotten Republicans to do their ad campaigns 40 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump moves his Tulsa rally from Juneteenth to June 20 'out of respect'
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=71231688

    Womp womp... civil war still not happening...
    Oh the flaccidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    100% agreed. I've said the same thing here myself. The thing that keeps amazing me is that this highly anti-social subset of the population has all the oblivious confidence of people who don't have any clue which role their "Confederacy-rising" chucklefuckery plays in this drama, even though there's no shortage of historical evidence that they're on the losing side, just like they were in the civil war and just like they were in WWII. But if they're determined to go for it, by all means. They too can end up, if they're lucky, as a family secret, or maybe even a clipped obituary, hidden in a box in the attic marked "junk."
    Agree completely, but I fail to see much difference between them and a Dixiecrat segregationist that pals around with white supremacists like Biden that you've been shilling for, for months now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You do realise there are several active social media campaigns to buy out all the seats and not attend so the rally will be empty, right?
    Yes, I'm aware the world is filled with killjoys and general vermin.

    Lol. Again, hun; the silent majority myth has finally been put down. Just accept you are in a minority ruling by force of arms, not a democratic mandate.

    Y’all are the redcoats of this little drama.
    What does this particular lunacy have to do with the rally?

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