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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Might want to check conservative media.



    No... I’m sorry, Biden will have the same issues as Obama and Kerry... birth certificates and swiftboat. The difference between Biden doing too much leftism for conservatives and too much conservatism for leftists, is negligible. One has simply shown to be far more effective than the other...

    Think of it this way... some liberals who claim to care about racism, find out that Juneteenth is emancipation day, but think it’s too soon from learning out, to celebrate people being freed.



    What do you mean ‘left or right’? The Democratic Party has been shifting more right, because progressives keep removing them selfs from relevance.
    To be fair most of my black employees never heard of juneteenth as of a survey I emailed last week and emancipation day is April 16th. I never heard of it until the Tulsa stuff came to light. So it's not necessarily a universal known and doesn't mean one cannot be concerned with racism and support BLM and never heard of the day the last slaves found out they were free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Looks like Biden raised more money in May than Trump.
    He did. Except Trump still has a bigger war chest because he started earlier.

    Where Republican is losing big time in fundraising is for the local and state level, and congressional and senatorial races. ActBlue has been breaking monthly records multiple times in 2020, and brought in 178 million in May. Unlike ActBlue, which has a non profit status, WinRed which is a for profit platform does not have to publicly disclose donation levels and they don't. However, they were not shy about the 30 million in donation that they received during the impeachment. Since they are keeping mum, I think it is safe to say that they are not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I don't see how people like Bernie or AOC getting more and more support every year and every election cycle somehow translates to: moving away from relevance.
    Obama -> Hillary -> Biden... Bernie isn’t winning even the DNC primary and progressives shit on AOC for supporting Biden. There are no progressives in the general election, because progressives are unreliable voters.

    Here, I’ll have Obama explain it:



    I feel like you're in a different observant reality than I am when it comes to politics and which movements are growing stronger (and weaker).
    Same reality Obama is talking about above...

    I know they'll play their part.

    But 'leftist' movements like BLM aren't suddenly going to stop protesting and aggressively pursuing their agenda because Biden replaced Trump. Biden is going to face his own anti-racism riots and protests eventually, just to name one example of protests he will undoubtedly face during his presidency.
    Yes, they will continue to do so, as conservative media paints them as communist, anarchist, rioters. With Biden being on their side... I’m sure there will be protests, no mater who the president is. But, if Biden was President instead of Trump, these protests would have ended 3 weeks ago.
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    Jesus Christ. They are really going to have to reposition this crowd in order to make the rally look full. AHAHAHA



    The Secret Service is currently taking down the overflow stage because THERE IS NO OVERFLOW! So much for a million ticket requests, ahahaha.


    BOK Center has a capacity just under 20k. I'm betting there are under 8000 that showed up. Sad. #LowEnergy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Trump supporters are claiming it was protestors that caused the small crowd. And the SS, as Trump calls them, cancelled his outdoor speech due to security concerns. Apparently speaking to nobody might kill Trump.
    This is fake news. Trump loves the sound of his own voice, it won't kill him.

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    Buttigieg volunteer organized the trolling of the Trump campaign.
    Mary Jo Laupp, a grandma who worked on Buttigieg’s campaign, seems to be the one who first encouraged TikTok users to troll Trump's campaign.

    In this video, now seen by over two million people, she urges users to reserve tickets they won’t use for today’s #Tulsa rally. https://t.co/AaCJsFBnSX
    https://twitter.com/mrjoshz/status/1...083978240?s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Buttigieg volunteer organized the trolling of the Trump campaign.


    https://twitter.com/mrjoshz/status/1...083978240?s=19

    I love #TeamPete
    God bless her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Buttigieg volunteer organized the trolling of the Trump campaign.


    https://twitter.com/mrjoshz/status/1...083978240?s=19

    I love #TeamPete
    It is sincerely my hope that the democratic party, and indeed any groups or individuals determined not to see Trump as president for another four years, can muster together to undermine the Trump campaign in any and every way possible as a collective whole.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6966.html

    biden +16 in minnestoa

    but trump lost it by only 1.5 even though hillary was polling +10
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5591.html

    the biggest ddifference between hillary biden seems to be that biden has a clear majority in this poll
    where hillary NEVER got above 50% in her polling average and biden is at 58
    and gravis is the poll in 2016 that had hillary at a virtual tie in minnesota which turned out to be truer than the other polls, so id say their methodology is sound
    minessota is a very blue dog democrat state, so the fact that biden is winning there is good that means he is chipping into trumps middle class base

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Jesus Christ. They are really going to have to reposition this crowd in order to make the rally look full. AHAHAHA



    The Secret Service is currently taking down the overflow stage because THERE IS NO OVERFLOW! So much for a million ticket requests, ahahaha.


    BOK Center has a capacity just under 20k. I'm betting there are under 8000 that showed up. Sad. #LowEnergy
    Funnily enough, you weren't far off the mark. Forbes has reported that attendance at Trumps Tulsa Belly Flop was just under 6,200.

    A Republican incumbent president in an election year could barely draw in 6,000 people to a rally in one of the reddest states in the country.

    If this is a portent of things to come, well... it's not going to be a fun year to be a Republican running for office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Trump supporters are claiming it was protestors that caused the small crowd. And the SS, as Trump calls them, cancelled his outdoor speech due to security concerns. Apparently speaking to nobody might kill Trump.
    Which is BS. The campaign staffers complained about a the dozen or so protestors to the SS and they were moved off site for not being invited. There were not protests yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6966.html

    biden +16 in minnestoa

    but trump lost it by only 1.5 even though hillary was polling +10
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5591.html

    the biggest ddifference between hillary biden seems to be that biden has a clear majority in this poll
    where hillary NEVER got above 50% in her polling average and biden is at 58
    and gravis is the poll in 2016 that had hillary at a virtual tie in minnesota which turned out to be truer than the other polls, so id say their methodology is sound
    minessota is a very blue dog democrat state, so the fact that biden is winning there is good that means he is chipping into trumps middle class base
    And a penis. Don't forget that. Misogyny and racism are rampant in America despite what people may think or say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Which is BS. The campaign staffers complained about a the dozen or so protestors to the SS and they were moved off site for not being invited. There were not protests yesterday.

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    And a penis. Don't forget that. Misogyny and racism are rampant in America despite what people may think or say.

    yep, seen alot of union people in michigan when i volunteered in 2014 who we could say were uh "socially conservative"
    and unions are basically dead so they have no reason to vote democrat so they just vote for who really represents them socially like trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Trump supporters are claiming it was protestors that caused the small crowd. And the SS, as Trump calls them, cancelled his outdoor speech due to security concerns. Apparently speaking to nobody might kill Trump.
    Imagine being chest thumping 2A red die hards getting blocked from attending a rally by a bunch of whiny liberals with an airhorn.

    Imagine still claiming that when there's ton of police and Secret Service around whose job it is to protect/move crowds.

    The only people who would actually fall for that lie are the ones who believe whatever comes out of 45s mouth.

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    I don't know if it's too early to say this, however whoever you vote for let it be your vote and not someone else's. Behind choosing who you'll marry, deciding who to vote for is the most important decision you can make. So let it be your vote. Like even if I didn't vote for Donald Trump I'd like write in my own name if I was 35+ years old(I'll 34 on September 20th).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing Rain View Post
    I don't know if it's too early to say this, however whoever you vote for let it be your vote and not someone else's. Behind choosing who you'll marry, deciding who to vote for is the most important decision you can make. So let it be your vote. Like even if I didn't vote for Donald Trump I'd like write in my own name if I was 35+ years old(I'll 34 on September 20th).
    So you’re voting for someone who doesn’t want you to be able to choose who you marry? Goddam bot is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    You will find it much less silly when something like 300k-500k people show up for the Trump rally in Tulsa and demand an immediate end to the BLM stuff. That event will also probably be met with a large BLM contingent and it has the potential to turn into a massive riot on a scale you've not seen.

    The civil war has already started. The BLM protests and riots were just the beginning. Now the Trump rallies will bring bigger protests and riots. We're backsliding into it.
    Boy this post didn't age well, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Boy this post didn't age well, huh?
    Foiled by KPop stans... if it weren’t for those damned kids and their little dog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing Rain View Post
    I don't know if it's too early to say this, however whoever you vote for let it be your vote and not someone else's. Behind choosing who you'll marry, deciding who to vote for is the most important decision you can make. So let it be your vote. Like even if I didn't vote for Donald Trump I'd like write in my own name if I was 35+ years old(I'll 34 on September 20th).
    Unintentional funny, is the best funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Imagine being chest thumping 2A red die hards getting blocked from attending a rally by a bunch of whiny liberals with an airhorn.

    Imagine still claiming that when there's ton of police and Secret Service around whose job it is to protect/move crowds.

    The only people who would actually fall for that lie are the ones who believe whatever comes out of 45s mouth.
    imagine being a red die hard 2A MagaHead but being told the rally is a gun free zone...and this time...not complaining about it and still supporting the guy who refuses to allow you to have your weapons with you.

    I mean, hell if its a safety concern don't we need more 2A Good Guys with Guns to keep us safe???
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    imagine being a red die hard 2A MagaHead but being told the rally is a gun free zone...and this time...not complaining about it and still supporting the guy who refuses to allow you to have your weapons with you.

    I mean, hell if its a safety concern don't we need more 2A Good Guys with Guns to keep us safe???
    Trump supporter lives mater more than school children? That’s not a snappy slogan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    imagine being a red die hard 2A MagaHead but being told the rally is a gun free zone...and this time...not complaining about it and still supporting the guy who refuses to allow you to have your weapons with you.
    I haven't bothered to look it up, but how do they deal with this double standard? Is it because the President is himself surrounded by armed guards, meaning that there are still plenty of guns around to kill the bad guys? I have to assume so...

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