Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Draco-Onis]

I'm not convinced schools won't open. In fact I'm almost certain they will and primarily in areas that are experiencing outbreaks currently, because the denial is real.

Yup the virus being a hoax is still being spouted by a lot of Trump supporters and now that he has switched to 99% of COVID cases are harmless all the red state governors will follow him down the rabbit hole.

[Bdatik]

i'm not a trump or biden supporter. putting the power of nuclear weapons, deranged leaders and countries, and the world's finest military into the hands of a man with severe dementia is no better than placing it into the hands of a narcissist, racist, power hungry and dictator like younger old man. This country is screwed either way. And its people's fault for not voting for a strong candidate like Yang, Bernie or Gillibrand.

Claiming Biden has dementia firmly puts you as a Trump support. You swallow propaganda like the best of them.

[Thepersona]

I agree, some districts will try to open. But odds are, all these plans will collapse. HOw many teachers or bus drivers can you lose until the rotation collapses? Poor and rural areas will have even fewer options.

I'm already signing my kids up for extended online programs. To supplement what few online hours the city will most likely provide. Other parents are sounding more and more pessimistic about the upcoming school year.



There's also rumbles that covid will devastate quite a few colleges. Especially those that rely on out-state-tuition or the small boutique colleges. Why pay 40k a year for online learning? When a state school has online learning for a fraction of the cost.

I dont want to be that guy, but expect to have your kids e-learning until Q1-Q2 2021

[Felya]

Claiming Biden has dementia firmly puts you as a Trump support. You swallow propaganda like the best of them.

Here is a prediction... during the meeting, some nut job will notice a black box on Biden’s hip. They will argue it’s some sort of medical device, keeping Biden alive. How do I know this? Because this is the exact same narrative used against Hillary.

[AntiFascistVoter]

I dont want to be that guy, but expect to have your kids e-learning until Q1-Q2 2021

No need, I'm already there. It will stay this bad until we get a vaccine.

Even in a Blue State with a proactive governor, I saw a majority of knuckleheads ignoring the mandatory mask order. I wanted to take my kids to the beach.
Had to turn around soon as I saw no one was wearing a mask. It's going to to be a long hot Summer of stupid.

[Gerron]

No need, I'm already there. It will stay this bad until we get a vaccine.

Even in a Blue State with a proactive governor, I saw a majority of knuckleheads ignoring the mandatory mask order. I wanted to take my kids to the beach.
Had to turn around soon as I saw no one was wearing a mask. It's going to to be a long hot Summer of stupid.

I've personally been expecting a spike here in Chicago by August that'll probably cause classes to remain online. While the vast majority of people I've seen have had a mask or some sort of face covering there have been a few times, like last Sunday when I drove downtown, that I had to really struggle to pick out the people wearing masks.

[cubby]

No need, I'm already there. It will stay this bad until we get a vaccine.

Even in a Blue State with a proactive governor, I saw a majority of knuckleheads ignoring the mandatory mask order. I wanted to take my kids to the beach.
Had to turn around soon as I saw no one was wearing a mask. It's going to to be a long hot Summer of stupid.

It will be a brutal summer, and I don't want to rain on your outlook/hopes, but keep in mind a vaccine still has to be distributed. If one appeared right now, ready to manufacture, it would take months to produce and distribute.

So if Trump wins in November, we can expect these circumstances to continue for months/years. And even if Biden wins, he won't have the reigns until Jan, and won't be able to lead us back to the right path past that. Plus, vaccine would still be pushed out until after we actually have one.

On a side note, I'm curious how these flat-curved countries will handle it now, if they start to see spikes - and more importantly, will they see spikes, or have they actually stopped it.

[Benggaul]

On a side note, I'm curious how these flat-curved countries will handle it now, if they start to see spikes - and more importantly, will they see spikes, or have they actually stopped it.

There will undoubtedly be spikes, but they will be more easily dealt with because there's no ongoing crisis currently. The difference being that they actually flattened the curve, taking the strain off the healthcare system and ensuring there will be plenty of resources for later, whereas in the US that never really happened nationally. A few states, yes, but many saw uniform growth in cases up until the past couple weeks when they exploded. Europe is pretty much done with the first wave and we can probably expect to see a second heading into the school year/fall, but now there are procedures in place to mitigate it and help keep everything from being overwhelmed (for the most part).

The US, however, is STILL in the first wave because it never fucking conquered it. New cases plateaued at between 20-25k per day for a couple of months, but never fell into the valley that countries that successfully handled it have.

[cubby]

Faithless Electoral College voters ruled illegal, must vote as their state rules dictate. SCOTUS ruled that rules put into place on how Electoral College delegates must vote are constitutional, making "Faithless Voters" essentially illegal.

Writing for the court, Justice Elena Kagan said the Constitution gives states far-reaching authority over choosing presidential electors. That includes the power to set conditions on an elector's appointment, "that is to say, what the elector must do for the appointment to take effect."

"The Constitution's text and the nation's history both support allowing a state to enforce an elector's pledge to support his party's nominee — and the state voters' choice — for President," Kagan wrote.

What's more, she wrote, "nothing in the Constitution expressly prohibits states from taking away president electors' voting discretion." The ruling aligns with "the trust of a nation that here, We the People rule," Kagan said.

The ruling was 9-0. Kagan wrote the majority. There wasn't even a concurring opinion. This is very good news for the November Election, AND further down the line, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

[Felya]

So, we have a lady named Ellen Weintraub who heads up the FEC. You may remember her from hits like “yes, Trump’s campaign broke the law in 2016,” today she’s tweeting at every major sports organization to make their facilities safe and available as polling places in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EllenLWeintraub

I’m sure the GOP is fuming.

“Major sports organization” is a bit of a stretch... she is tweeting every sports team, regardless how small, with a sporting facility. It’s why the tweet about Barcley’s center, had like 4 teams mentioned. Thanks to her, I learned that there is a pro lacrosse league in US... who knew? lol

[unfilteredJW]

I'm not convinced schools won't open. In fact I'm almost certain they will and primarily in areas that are experiencing outbreaks currently, because the denial is real.

To this point, Florida is already preparing to open schools up in August.

[wunksta]

it's hilarious that people think biden would win.

People said the same thing about Trump.

[Machismo]

Claiming Biden has dementia firmly puts you as a Trump support. You swallow propaganda like the best of them.

He's also already admitted to supporting Trump...

People act as if everyone forgets what they say.

[AntiFascistVoter]

To this point, Florida is already preparing to open schools up in August.

Ya that looks grim.

Anyways...

The Biden campaign is having Jill Biden and Liz Warren hosting a round table with the head of the AFT Union and others to talk the challenges of education in the age of Covid.

Hopeful news for people interested in challenging GOP senators.

• Gideon raised $9M in Maine
• Cunningham raised $7M in North Carolina
• Bullock raised $7.7M in Montana
• Harrison raised $14M in SC to challenge Graham

I imagine McGrath and Kelly will be posting mind boggling figures.

[Thekri]

Hopeful news for people interested in challenging GOP senators.

• Gideon raised $9M in Maine
• Cunningham raised $7M in North Carolina
• Bullock raised $7.7M in Montana
• Harrison raised $14M in SC to challenge Graham

I imagine McGrath and Kelly will be posting mind boggling figures.

Not sure Kelly needs it honestly. His opponent is deeply disliked, and already lost one race for Senate just two years ago. Kelly is a ridiculously strong candidate who should be able to take the seat quite convincingly. Arizona should have two Democratic Senators next year.

McGrath is still a long shot, but there is going to be a lot of money in that race, because while McConnell wants to keep the majority, he also wants to keep his own job. I view Kentucky as a pure distraction effort, they have to fight there because it is a must win race for them, so the more they have to spend the better.

South Carolina is the one I have been heavily involved in for 6 months, and I am actually getting pretty optimistic about it. Graham is really not well liked in SC, even the highly conservative workers at my plant have talked about just leaving the Senate part of the ballot blank. Vote for Trump, but not Lindsey. Harrison wouldn't have been my preferred candidate, he is a political insider all the way. Trump is going to win the state, and I don't know if Harrison can run ahead of Biden in the the state. Still, Graham may run considerably behind Trump, and that could be the edge Harrison needs to take the seat. Because while SC will go for Trump, it may be a lot closer than most people think.

[Felya]

I didn’t exclude the minor organizations, but they’re clearly just being tacked on.

The point is the facilities, not the teams.

[Benggaul]

I imagine McGrath and Kelly will be posting mind boggling figures.

I'm not really happy with McGrath at all given her seeming willingness to work with Trump--unless that's all just talk and she's using that sentiment to gather support from Trump supporters who are seeing McConnell balk sometimes.

But getting McConnell out is probably worth it.

[AntiFascistVoter]

I'm not really happy with McGrath at all given her seeming willingness to work with Trump--unless that's all just talk and she's using that sentiment to gather support from Trump supporters .

Making this kind of "gotcha" comment out of context serves no real purpose. Unless it's a reveal of casual sexism towards McGrath.

Over the past 4 years there's a dozen times that even Bernie said "he's willing to work with Trump".

It's something every politician does.



Dear fellow woke resistance members and revolutionaries.... stop repeating the same dumb BS from 2016.

[Benggaul]

Making this kind of "gotcha" comment out of context serves no real purpose. Unless it's a reveal of casual sexism towards McGrath.

Over the past 4 years there's a dozen times that even Bernie said "he's willing to work with Trump".

It's something every politician does.



Dear fellow woke resistance members and revolutionaries.... stop repeating the same dumb BS from 2016.

It's not a "gotcha" comment out of context. It's something she said. I was also a Warren supporter and did not agree with Bernie saying he would work with Trump, so there goes that ridiculous argument.

As is the case with Biden--who is not my favorite candidate but one I will absolutely vote for over Trump--I would vote for McGrath (were I eligible--I'm not) to get rid of McConnell. I also voted for Clinton in 2016 because she was clearly the superior choice over Trump, though I did not particularly care for her.

You can check your "casual sexism" bullshit at the door.

[AntiFascistVoter]

It's not a "gotcha" comment out of context. It's something she said. I was also a Warren supporter and did not agree with Bernie saying he would work with Trump, so there goes that ridiculous argument.

As is the case with Biden--who is not my favorite candidate but one I will absolutely vote for over Trump--I would vote for McGrath (were I eligible--I'm not) to get rid of McConnell. I also voted for Clinton in 2016 because she was clearly the superior choice over Trump, though I did not particularly care for her.

You can check your "casual sexism" bullshit at the door.

You said that McGrath was "willing to work with Trump", and left it hanging....

That's a bullshit move.