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    I always get a postcard in the mail saying my vote counted, and the timestamp that it was received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    check the cross links on those "like-dislike" ratios.

    You know like when Drudge links to a video how all of a sudden its bashed by a billion conservative readers instead of a consistent mix. How if a story hits MSNBC the results will happen but on a liberal basis instead of a consistent mix.



    Do you know how easy it is to jam those like and dislike trackers...vote multiple times...manipulate the hell out of the results.


    Polls in 2016 were some of the most accurate polls on a national level in a long time. but we know popular polls < state polls < EC results right?
    doesnt matter. polls mean nothing. people voting does. the chart for ashes is listed as 2% it means there's a low chance of getting it but you wont get it unless you kill the boss. same thing for voting. these polls are useless and used but nothing to sway and manipulate people with bias news.
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  3. #7723
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    these polls are useless and used but nothing to sway and manipulate people with bias news.
    No, you're just not understanding them and you're lashing out as a result.

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    Apparently some video from 2010 has surfaced showing Karen Bass praising Scientology as a speaker at an opening for that "church", so that's going to be a factor in whether or not she's chosen as VP, for sure.

    I mean it's still nowhere near as bad as what the US is saddled with now, but yikes.

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    i never have to lash out. im absolutely unbothered by people on the internet
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Polls and Percentages. How did those work out in 2016?
    oh and check out the like-dislike ratio on the youtube videos and the comments across MSM. you'll know who the people are voting for. not these fake and fabricated polls sent to democratic high cities and counties.
    Evidence, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    do you want me to show you every major poll predicting hillary would win
    especially the NYT saying she had a 91.3% of winning


    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/...ewsletter.html
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7399671.html

    here's the tip of the iceberg
    Well, there were a fair number of people like you who got caught lying about being liberals or Democrats, when you guys were Trumpsters all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    do you want me to show you every major poll predicting hillary would win
    especially the NYT saying she had a 91.3% of winning


    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/...ewsletter.html
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7399671.html

    here's the tip of the iceberg
    According to WoWhead, Invincible only has a 1% drop rate. But, because I saw it drop on my first clear of ICC, I guess that means that the Website's stats are wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    i never have to lash out. im absolutely unbothered by people on the internet
    best lie of the week, thanks for the laugh
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    If Biden wins, some fun/gotcha appointments he can make:

    Fauci - Surgeon General
    Hillary - Russian Ambassador
    The head of an immigrant's rights group- ICE
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    i never have to lash out. im absolutely unbothered by people on the internet
    Totally consistent with your nonsensical tirade where you tried to put words in my mouth.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    do you want me to show you every major poll predicting hillary would win
    especially the NYT saying she had a 91.3% of winning


    http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/...ewsletter.html
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7399671.html

    here's the tip of the iceberg
    Predictions and polling are two completely different things.

    That prediction meant Trump had a 6.9% chance of winning and he did. Shocker, someone with a chance of winning won. Seriously what's wrong with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    According to WoWhead, Invincible only has a 1% drop rate. But, because I saw it drop on my first clear of ICC, I guess that means that the Website's stats are wrong??
    And I got called out for calling Theramore a troll. Clearly he/she has no clue about most of what it talks about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    So Trump was right when he said mail-in ballots will lead to widespread fraud and chaos. Only he will be the one to perpetrate it.
    As per the usual.

    When Trump rants about Democrats or other political opponents doing a thing, it's usually because Trump himself is doing that thing.

    Classic projection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Trump completely fucked up Covid and it might cost him election that was otherwise supposed to be an easy win. If Biden wins it will be interesting to see how long he will last until his mental health makes him unfit for the office.

    In a perfect world Jo Jorgensen would win, but sadly we dont live in a perfect world. At least communist Sanders is out.
    If Trump made it 4 years Biden can make it 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    i never have to lash out. im absolutely unbothered by people on the internet
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Nice to you assume I'm white and also you're basing that if someone is poor that they must not be white? You're racist for saying that.
    Oh and underline me saying poor people are trash. Wait, you can't!!

    "The rest of the trash" <---
    Cough cough...... bullshit..... cough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    If Trump made it 4 years Biden can make it 8
    Give it a couple of years and Biden will start talking about injecting disinfectant and quoting doctors that believe demon spunk and Alien DNA will cure covid. By 2023, Biden will start calling pandemics hoaxes, posting videos where he doesn’t notice people screaming “white power”. I bet the first thing Biden does, is talk about the giant crowd at his inauguration, claiming it’s far bigger than all pictures and video shows. I bet by then, Biden won’t even remember the dozen rallies he attended the previous two month or will forget all details of talking to Russians. That’s how out of it Biden is...
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    So 2018's October surprise was the immigrant caravan hysteria that failed hilariously. Would anyone care to wager that this year Trump's defense attorney Bill Bar is going to announce sham charges or investigations like they did in 2016?

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    my biggest worry is election day will have trump leading, but mail ballots will be overwhelmingly for joe
    so alot of trumpers are going to say ' election was rigged because on election day trump was leading" they tried to do with florida in 2018
    its civil unrest in the making because potus dosent wasnt mail ballots to be seen as legitimate

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    Quote Originally Posted by SethRoguen View Post
    So 2018's October surprise was the immigrant caravan hysteria that failed hilariously. Would anyone care to wager that this year Trump's defense attorney Bill Bar is going to announce sham charges or investigations like they did in 2016?
    My money's on a last minute investigation announcement into Joe/Hunter Biden a week before the election with said investigation sputtering into nothing like the Email scandal.

    Or mass / unannounced voter purges in Vulnerable Republican controlled states that don't get cleared up until after the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    my biggest worry is election day will have trump leading, but mail ballots will be overwhelmingly for joe
    so alot of trumpers are going to say ' election was rigged because on election day trump was leading" they tried to do with florida in 2018
    its civil unrest in the making because potus dosent wasnt mail ballots to be seen as legitimate
    If the election results call Biden as the winner, then I frankly could give two shits about how uppity Trump's little cult gets. They'd get uppity no matter what.

    They'll swiftly find themselves without a single friend in congress outside of a lame duck Trump. The republicans, in an effort to save their own hides, will be fleeing the Trump ship like gangbusters. And I very much doubt Biden and his administration will be so forgiving, excusing and pardoning to any deranged right-wing loonies that see fit to act out as Trump has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post

    Or mass / unannounced voter purges in Vulnerable Republican controlled states that don't get cleared up until after the election.
    This is my fear as well. A lot of ballot machines with "missing" or "compromised" data, mail-in ballots lost in bulk and/or key polling stations abruptly closed or having their hours shifted around with little to no prior notice. I also wouldn't put it past them to orchestrate large misinformation campaigns to confuse people as to when or where to vote or send their ballots in to.

    My only consolation is that the democrats certainly aren't going to let this go down without a fight, and I doubt too many republicans in congress want to play the Trump game for very much longer. It'll be Trump and his hand-picked band of toadies trying to pull this all off.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I still stand by the fact that Trump could've coasted to a relatively easy 2020 win if he actually did anything meaningful about COVID-19 back in January when he was briefed on it. His approval would've gone up, he could've run on his 'I saved you all from getting sick and dying!!' platform with more tangible results, and spun the inevitable outbreaks in major metropolitan cities as 'Democratic failure' and shown himself as the benevolent savior swooping in to save them.

    But instead he couldn't get over himself long enough to acknowledge something that made him 'look bad' and it's caused a catastrophic domino effect that's primed to smother our economy and is already over-taxing our health care providers.

    Quick Edit: This opinion was something formed back before the BLM protests started up, so it's very likely he'd still have rather dreary approval ratings in this hypothetical scenario where he actually gave a shit about COVID yet was still determined to frame the protests as Lawless Rioters and Terrorists and sicked Federal Thugs at them. They probably wouldn't be 'Texas might actually turn purple???' bad, but you get my point.
    Trump didn't have to do anything which is why his actions have been the definition of stupidty.
    Let his team of medical experts do there thing, just hand over the response to Fauci and even if things turn out wrong you could say "we followed the medical advice of the nations top medical experts" this is what defacto the Democrats have done.

    Trump however listen to Kusher who told him (who just told Trump what Trump wanted to hear) is that his election chances are tied into the economy and immigration. So banning Chinese from traveling to the US is good
    Closing down the business is bad
    Ignoring the pandemic good

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Trump didn't have to do anything which is why his actions have been the definition of stupidty.
    Let his team of medical experts do there thing, just hand over the response to Fauci and even if things turn out wrong you could say "we followed the medical advice of the nations top medical experts" this is what defacto the Democrats have done.

    Trump however listen to Kusher who told him (who just told Trump what Trump wanted to hear) is that his election chances are tied into the economy and immigration. So banning Chinese from traveling to the US is good
    Closing down the business is bad
    Ignoring the pandemic good
    At this point the only way he could've made this worse is if he actively - and willfully - encouraged its spread in our country but... Between actively undermining the advice of medical professionals and Kushner's willingness to let Blue States get sick for political points, they might have already crossed that line.

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