1. #7941
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Reactions to questions like this, may be one reason Trump has gained some votes from the African Americans.
    Following up on this - https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...trump-n1236056

    Facebook removed hundreds of accounts on Thursday from a foreign troll farm posing as African-Americans in support of Donald Trump and QAnon supporters. It also removed thousands of fake accounts linked to conservative media outlet The Epoch Times that pushed pro-Trump conspiracy theories about coronavirus and protests in the U.S.

    Facebook took down the accounts as part of its enforcement against coordinated inauthentic behavior, which is the use of fake accounts to inflate the reach of content or products on social media.

    The foreign pro-Trump troll farm was based in Romania and pushed content on Instagram under names like “BlackPeopleVoteForTrump” and on Facebook under “We Love Our President.”
    Much of the "support" on social media remains manufactured by trolls, which is why you don't actually see any of it appearing in polling data or votes.

    Also, bonus points for Epoch Times getting caught creating fake accounts to push conspiracy theories. Maybe Google will stop throwing their fucking garbage as hell ads in front of videos I watch. They're painfully cringy.

  2. #7942
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't have it in front of me, but he got real defensive when asked about a cognitive test and then flipped the question on the interview asking if he took a test for cocaine.
    Which, in context, was an obvious joke mocking how dumb the focus on him taking the Montreal cognitive test is. It wasn't a serious question, it was a rhetorical question.

    Person. Man. Woman. Camera. TV.

    https://twitter.com/errolbarnett/sta...40305865400321

    This is, again, taking a small part of a response out of context to reinforce your pre-existing views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Wasn't about that but I do know I wouldn't want to infer what communities of color care about with something to backup such a claim.
    He has plenty to back up that comment. History backs it up, as a great many of the Black Americans living here can trace their families back to the slave days, and the destruction of their heritage and culture. That's why there isn't the kind of diversity of culture within the Black community as there is amongst more recent immigrant communities like the Latinx community. There IS diversity, and Biden acknowledged that, as there are more recent immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean bringing their respective cultures along, and there are pushes for Black Americans to try to trace and rediscover their roots.

    But he's largely on-point with this, and like with the other comment you're pearl clutching about has also apparently failed to offend or outrage the Black community, or really anyone other than conservatives and people that don't like Joe Biden who feel the need to be outraged on behalf of communities of color.

  3. #7943
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't have it in front of me, but he got real defensive when asked about a cognitive test and then flipped the question on the interview asking if he took a test for cocaine. Watching it was pretty concerning, I know Trump basically has a similar issue, but I expect that from the buffoon and even if you go back decades Trump has always spoken at a lower intellectual level, Biden use to be real sharp and potent with his words. I still remember his Debate with Paul Ryan and he embarked him, now Biden himself is kind of embarrassing.
    Biden has always been known for his "brashness."

    Has he lost a step or two? Honestly, I don't know, and I don't really care enough to objectively compare his words over the past couple decades.

    What I do know, is that any attempt to slam him on speech, etiquette, or behavior... is all far worse for Trump.

  4. #7944
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Ohh he was only Joking..... Now where have I heard that excuse before?

    I'm not pearl ducting it's legitimate concern and he has show it countless times. Doesn't matter if its a white dude, black dude, journalist, worker at a ralley. He has gone off the handle a number of times.

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    If I didn't see a pattern I honestly wouldn't care, but its been pretty consistent. I said Trump has always spoke like a moron so I am pretty sure that is he default settings.
    That pattern, as far as I can see, has lasted 20+ years... and is continuing.

    I get that people want to spout off about dementia, but what we aren't really seeing, is evidence.

  5. #7945
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't have it in front of me, but he got real defensive when asked about a cognitive test and then flipped the question on the interview asking if he took a test for cocaine. Watching it was pretty concerning, I know Trump basically has a similar issue, but I expect that from the buffoon and even if you go back decades Trump has always spoken at a lower intellectual level, Biden use to be real sharp and potent with his words. I still remember his Debate with Paul Ryan and he embarked him, now Biden himself is kind of embarrassing.
    His response is correct. Cognitive test is not like SAT that pretty much every college-bound persons have to take to prove themselves. Doctors only assigned cognitive tests to patients that show mental impairment. There is nothing to be proud of about taking the test. The very fact that your doctor assigned you to take a cognitive test is a sign of trouble.
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  6. #7946
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Ohh he was only Joking..... Now where have I heard that excuse before?
    Just because Trump's people use it to explain away his bigotry and stupidity doesn't mean that jokes don't exist, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Doesn't mean it can't be used in the similar fashion to cover for a candidate that someone prefers, dude.
    Cover up that Trump can’t tell a difference from a lion and a cow?

    Whichever these are our terrible choices I suppose.
    Terrible choices, because you fall for Trump’s political theater? If I told you to get a cognitive test... do you think I’ll get infracted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    His response is correct. Cognitive test is not like SAT that pretty much every college-bound persons have to take to prove themselves. Doctors only assigned cognitive tests to patients that show mental impairment. There is nothing to be proud of about taking the test. The very fact that your doctor assigned you to take a cognitive test is a sign of trouble.
    It’s an insult... simple as that. The fact that Trump treats it as an achievement, is justification enough to doubt validity of his results.
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  8. #7948
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ican-diversity

    Again, the only outrage I'm seeing at Biden's recent comments are...conservatives and the Trump campaign.

    Meanwhile, polling doesn't back up the pearl clutching by white conservatives -

    In a recent Economist/YouGov poll, 76 percent of Black respondents said that Biden had their vote, while only 12 percent said they would vote for Trump. Biden's advantage with Hispanic voters in the poll wasn't as stark, with 54 percent of Hispanic voters choosing him and 24 percent picking Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Found it. Damn these white conservatives with their concerns, Also best not to use such a racist term.
    No shit... asking people if they would take a cognitive test, should be treated like an insult. In fact... it should be the first question on a cognitive test... someone celebrating passing one, should retroactively fail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    What I do know, is that any attempt to slam him on speech, etiquette, or behavior... is all far worse for Trump.
    Not just worse than Trump, it’s pushing Trump’s political theater. Why would anyone told to take a cognitive test, not treat it as insult?

    The perfect answer from Biden, would be... “my cognitive test is being audited”...

    Edit: Has anyone seen Biden’s birth certificate? Anyone have proof he wasn’t born in China?

    Edit 2: Has anyone looked into Biden’s education? I’m just asking... why have we not seen proof that his education is legitimate?

    Edit 3: Has Biden’s ties to Catholic Brotherhood been checked? Just asking...
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  11. #7951
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Found it. Damn these white conservatives with their concerns, Also best not to use such a racist term.

    Found what? I linked to the segment with his response earlier from Errol Barnett's Twitter account, and there was no real criticism or outrage that I see in the video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Found what? I linked to the segment with his response earlier from Errol Barnett's Twitter account, and there was no real criticism or outrage that I see in the video?
    His response was more sharp and coherent than anything Trump ever said...

    Edit:

    The reality of the situation, is Biden taking a cognitive test, is only a response to asking Trump about his record as president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't do twitter too many videos clipped out of context, The video is from the people who actually conducted the interview and Biden campaign hadn't responded. Honestly how anyone can watch that and think he handle it well is beyond me. As said this was right up there with his breakfast club interview.
    His response was sharp and on point? Biden is right...

    It is what it is...

    Edit: If Trump can pass a cognitive test, considering the HBO interview... what’s the point? A man who is asked about having 6000 people at a rally was a bad idea, to respond that he had 12000... Why does that test mater?
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  14. #7954
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't do twitter too many videos clipped out of context, The video is from the people who actually conducted the interview and Biden campaign hadn't responded back to them. Honestly how anyone can watch that and think he handle it well is beyond me. As said this was right up there with his breakfast club interview.
    Responded on additional context, because there's no additional context.

    Was it handled well? Probably not. Is it outrageous as y'all keep making it out to be? Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Was it handled well? Probably not. Is it outrageous as y'all keep making it out to be? Nah.
    I really don’t see how it wasn’t handled well...

    Edit: Claiming that increased testing hurts your numbers, to then bring out charts showing deaths per test, as a win... implies cognitive issues... yet... Trump passed a test...

    Edit 2: “Which counties?”... “US is lower than the world”... yet... passed a cognitive test...
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  16. #7956
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I really don’t see how it wasn’t handled well...
    If someone insults your cognitive abilities you obviously shouldn't get defensive by it, you should brag about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    I don't do twitter too many videos clipped out of context, The video is from the people who actually conducted the interview and Biden campaign hadn't responded back to them. Honestly how anyone can watch that and think he handle it well is beyond me. As said this was right up there with his breakfast club interview.
    What, exactly, do you find objectionable there?

    It's a stupid-ass question and merely asking it is rude as fuck. Cognitive tests are only applied in cases where someone's mental functions are thought to be grossly impaired, to assess whether such impairment exists. Asking if Biden has had such a test done implicitly argues that you think Biden is mentally impaired. The question makes no sense without that implication, which is why Biden laughed it off as an asinine and ridiculous thing to ask.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    What, exactly, do you find objectionable there?

    It's a stupid-ass question and merely asking it is rude as fuck. Cognitive tests are only applied in cases where someone's mental functions are thought to be grossly impaired, to assess whether such impairment exists. Asking if Biden has had such a test done implicitly argues that you think Biden is mentally impaired. The question makes no sense without that implication, which is why Biden laughed it off as an asinine and ridiculous thing to ask.
    As I pointed out... If I respond to someone, by saying they need, should or if taken a cognitive test... I should be infracted for flaming...

    Edit: it’s not different than saying... “I think you need to get tested”... or... “you need your head examined” which are basic insults...
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    If someone insults your cognitive abilities you obviously shouldn't get defensive by it, you should brag about it.
    Trump should make the original version of Black Eye Peas “Let’s get it started”, as his campaign song.
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  20. #7960
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    They set up the entire clip before hand, and had the interviewer speak about it. Doesn't seem like the interviewer took it as a joke.
    Where has he said he was offended by it? Or was this simply them filling airtime talking about a response that conservative are all pearl clutching over?

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